Fumble Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'd like to reserve Scolipede and Mightyena, if possible. I will present them in the following 2-3 days thoroughly (since I need to play the game a bit longer, now I've only reached gym4). Alright then~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Walrein ranked B- +relatively diverse movesets with: Crunch, Rollout, Powder Snow, Ice Ball, Encore, Brine, Aurora Beam, Body Slam, Rest, Snore, Swagger, Hail, Ice Fang, Blizzard, Sheer Cold, Aqua Ring(breed), Belly Drum(breed), Curse(breed), Signal Beam(breed),Stockpile ,Spit Up(breed), Swallow(breed), Water Pulse(breed), Yawn(breed), Surf HM +great ability thick fat to make up for some ice weakness or ice body recovery for hailstorm team, oblivious is least useful among the three +impressive bulk with 110/90/90, with access to recovery moves like aqua ring and ability ice body, also with buff up moves like curse and stockpile, it can wall a good deal of damages. +80 base attack and 95 base special attack, while it is not the greatest offensive mon in all available mons, it sure makes a dent in opponents with ice being a great offensive type +since we get spheal relatively late in current release, it is almost close to evolving +being one of the few mons that learn blizzard via leveling up for removing ever annoying amber's field -again, late availability is probably a downside for some people who like to build their team early -bad defensive typing, ice typing is a set back for a defensive mon, water typing only can do that much with neutrality to steel and fire but at the cost of two added weaknesses -65 base speed is unremarkable for a mon who needs to pre-emptively use recovery moves or to strike first with the offensive -cannot do much against angie, hopefully the next gyms after amber will see more use of it Also, Chubb, could you add sludge wave and shadow ball TM to moves learnable by Dragalge? I forgot about it on last post, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Important Notice: I doubt I'll be able to play v7 just when it comes out because my personal computer is kinda broken and I'm busy irl, and just watching YouTube videos on what's in v7 won't help, so I'd like somebody else to continue the viability rankings when v7 does come out (I haven't done much for it besides add in you guys' analyses recently anyway.) I'll be updating the list still, but when v7 does come out, this thread won't be the most updated. You guys don't have to ask for permission or anything, since it is kinda first come first serve, so yeah. Feel free to reuse any of these old analyses, although some of them contradict others in terms of rankings (since multiple people are making these analyses). Thanks! Walrein ranked B- +relatively diverse movesets with: Crunch, Rollout, Powder Snow, Ice Ball, Encore, Brine, Aurora Beam, Body Slam, Rest, Snore, Swagger, Hail, Ice Fang, Blizzard, Sheer Cold, Aqua Ring(breed), Belly Drum(breed), Curse(breed), Signal Beam(breed),Stockpile ,Spit Up(breed), Swallow(breed), Water Pulse(breed), Yawn(breed), Surf HM +great ability thick fat to make up for some ice weakness or ice body recovery for hailstorm team, oblivious is least useful among the three +impressive bulk with 110/90/90, with access to recovery moves like aqua ring and ability ice body, also with buff up moves like curse and stockpile, it can wall a good deal of damages. +80 base attack and 95 base special attack, while it is not the greatest offensive mon in all available mons, it sure makes a dent in opponents with ice being a great offensive type +since we get spheal relatively late in current release, it is almost close to evolving +being one of the few mons that learn blizzard via leveling up for removing ever annoying amber's field -again, late availability is probably a downside for some people who like to build their team early -bad defensive typing, ice typing is a set back for a defensive mon, water typing only can do that much with neutrality to steel and fire but at the cost of two added weaknesses -65 base speed is unremarkable for a mon who needs to pre-emptively use recovery moves or to strike first with the offensive -cannot do much against angie, hopefully the next gyms after amber will see more use of it Also, Chubb, could you add sludge wave and shadow ball TM to moves learnable by Dragalge? I forgot about it on last post, thank you. Added and fixed~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chespin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Um, I have a recommendation for you guys.... <- This guy for B+/A- +Available before the second gym as a shadow Pokemon thanks to an exploit with the purification machine in Dr. Jenkel's Lab +Two great abilities in Rock Head and Sturdy (Rattled is meh) +Surprisingly good movepool with Rock Tomb, Counter, and Sucker Punch for utility; Rock Slide/Stone Edge, Hammer Arm, Double-Edge, and Wood Hammer for raw power (the last two are better used with rock head, though); and a godly boosting move in Shift Gear +Great offensive typing in Rock, giving it usefulness in the battles against Marianette, Crawli, Angie, and Amber +Impressive 70/115 Physical bulk and a good 100 Attack, further boosted by Shift Gear -Meh Special Defense and laughable speed (although the speed is patched up by Shift Gear) -Not very useful in the battles against Keta, and while useful in theory against Angie and Amber, its weak special defense leaves it vulnerable to their powerful special moves -Bad defensive typing in rock, leaving it weak to five types (which is exasperated by its bad speed before Shift Gear, meaning it's going to be taking a hit before attacking) ...Did I win the cookie?! Edited November 29, 2015 by supermario79411 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganza Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Can I get a reservation for Garbodor <3 My stinky ol' pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Can I get a reservation for Garbodor <3 My stinky ol' pal Reserved~ Um, I have a recommendation for you guys.... <- This guy for B+/A- +Available before the second gym as a shadow Pokemon thanks to an exploit with the purification machine in Dr. Jenkel's Lab +Two great abilities in Rock Head and Sturdy (Rattled is meh) +Surprisingly good movepool with Rock Tomb, Counter, and Sucker Punch for utility; Rock Slide/Stone Edge, Hammer Arm, Double-Edge, and Wood Hammer for raw power (the last two are better used with rock head, though); and a godly boosting move in Shift Gear +Great offensive typing in Rock, giving it usefulness in the battles against Marianette, Crawli, Angie, and Amber +Impressive 70/115 Physical bulk and a good 100 Attack, further boosted by Shift Gear -Meh Special Defense and laughable speed (although the speed is patched up by Shift Gear) -Not very useful in the battles against Keta, and while useful in theory against Angie and Amber, its weak special defense leaves it vulnerable to their powerful special moves -Bad defensive typing in rock, leaving it weak to five types (which is exasperated by its bad speed before Shift Gear, meaning it's going to be taking a hit before attacking) ...Did I win the cookie?! Added~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chespin Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hey, thanks for adding my suggestion! I have another one for you: Chesnaught for A rank, maybe even A+ rank +Highest base defense of all non-legendary fighting-types and all non-Mega starter Pokemon (actual quote from Bulbapedia), and a good physical attack, too +Great movepool with setup moves in belly drum or bulk up; defensive moves in spiky shield, pain split, and leech seed; and offensive moves in seed bomb, wood hammer, hammer arm, stacking shot, body slam, and dig +Amazing ability in bulletproof, allowing it to shrug off attacks like shadow ball, bullet seed (eat it, Marianette's Cinccino!) and sludge bomb, among others +Available as a starter Pokemon (as Chespin), and can be fully evolved before Marainette's Gym (with a reverse candy, of course) +Helps greatly in the first battle with Keta (field-boosted needle arm), Marianette, and, surprisingly, Angie (stacking shot gives it power and speed if it can survive long enough) -Has the most weaknesses of any starter (also quote from Bulbapedia) -Pretty squishy special defense, undermining its great defense and allowing Venam, Narcissa, Valerie, and Amber to get the better of it -Available only as a starter, so there's the opportunity cost of other, possibly better starters (ex. Blaziken, Delphox, Greninja, etc.) if you choose it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hey, thanks for adding my suggestion! I have another one for you: Chesnaught for A rank, maybe even A+ rank Added~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chespin Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Okay, I got another one: Aggron for B+ Rank +Learns some great moves, like Iron Head, Iron Tail, Rock Slide, Heavy Slam, Double-edge, Metal Burst, Rock Head (breeding), Dragon Rush (breeding), and Stealth Rock (breeding) +Has three great abilities: Sturdy for tanking special hits, Rock Head for using Head Smash and Double-Edge, and Heavy Metal for using Heavy Slam +Stellar defense and a good HP give it awesome physical bulk, and a great attack stat helps make it an awesome physical tank +Available before Narcissa as a mystery egg, and helps with the fights against Eli and Sharon, Crawli, Angie, and Amber +Has a 4x resistance to those ever-present normal-types -Available only as a mystery egg, so you have a pretty low chance of getting it -Bad special defense really holds it back, and with no way to boost it, even resisted special attacks are going to take a chunk out of its HP -All of its abilities have opportunity costs: Sturdy prevents you from using Head Smash or Heavy Slam, Heavy Metal prevents you from using Head Smash and leaves it open to special attacks, and Rock Head prevents you from using Heavy Slam and leaves it ope to special attacks -Pretty bad defensive typing, giving it a slew of weaknesses and two 4x weaknesses Edited December 2, 2015 by supermario79411 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Okay, I got another one: Aggron for B+ Rank Added~ also I forgot to say this but yes you win a cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganza Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Sorry for the late replyGarbodor ~ C/C+ Rank+ It learns great STAB moves which you can get early in the game. Some of these are Sludge Bomb, Gunk Shot and Belch. With its decent Attack stats, you can use Body Slam as a coverage.+ It learns Toxic Spikes early which could help you as a support. Countering it, if Facade is available, it can be a great tactic for battles.- Even with its decent stats, it hardly attacks hard and takes hits.- It gets overclassed by many poison-type pokemons.- Only good as a poison support and for beating slow Fairy-type pokemons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Sorry for the late reply Garbodor ~ C/C+ Rank Added~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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