ScuzBrains Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Okay so, I'm at the point where - I found El after he stole Gardevoir, and my team is all max level, but I can't make a /dent/ in his bootleg Arceus, does anyone know what to do? Is it meant to be unwinnable? Am I meant to side with El instead of Radomus? I seriously don't know what to do, he sweeps like half my team, then the few that don't get OHKO'd barely do any damage. What do? --edit-- I ended up siding with El so I could just deal with getting beat and move on. Oh well. Thank you for your responses! Hopefully they can help others that get stuck on this fight Edited September 15, 2015 by ScuzBrains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon116 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Paralyze hax, sleep hax, confuse hax, poison stall, boost hax, pretty much any of those. Or learn to bring a gimmik in your team. Prankster Murkrow w/ Perish Song is a popular choice. Another good one is sturdy > endeavor > priority finisher. Might have to spam Endeavor a few times until they're out of full restores tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScuzBrains Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Paralyze hax, sleep hax, confuse hax, poison stall, boost hax, pretty much any of those. Or learn to bring a gimmik in your team. Prankster Murkrow w/ Perish Song is a popular choice. Another good one is sturdy > endeavor > priority finisher. Might have to spam Endeavor a few times until they're out of full restores tho. I'd rather not change up my team or hack anything in, I'm just not sure how to beat this behemoth, Though, my Nidoking has Poison Point, so I can probably try and abuse F12, that's what I did with Pangoro anyways --edit-- okay, so, he's not getting poisoned, or burned from whatever i try, and all my pokemon, who are as high as the cap, get taken out in either one or two hits, so I have no idea what to do. Edited September 14, 2015 by ScuzBrains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Judge of Gemini Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 try to use Sturdy pokemon with Thunder Wave like Magnemite/Nosepass, then end it with powerful Fighting Pokemon with high atk Fighting move like HJK/Sky Uppercut/Submission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniper Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) spoilers are I don't know if you can catch something that learns perish song but Perish song is the best for single pokémon bosses (Like pulse machines) You can catch a misdreavous in the wasteland, if you know where to look, I think mismagius learns perish song. (You will need to use it before dying though, so you need to use something like tailwind, trick room or paralyze prior to perisher switcch in if you're slower than he is and can't tank a hit) EDIT: just in case you didn't notice by now, you are supposed to beat him to progress is the story Edited September 14, 2015 by Juuzou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScuzBrains Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 try to use Sturdy pokemon with Thunder Wave like Magnemite/Nosepass, then end it with powerful Fighting Pokemon with high atk Fighting move like HJK/Sky Uppercut/Submission I don't have anyone with sturdy, unfortunately. My Scrafty does have high-jump kick, but he keeps getting KO'd before he can attack ono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Here is how I beat it in my recent playthrough. Find a a grass pokemon with Leech Seed. It will use Judgment and hope that the crystals will change it to either grass or water type so you can survive. After you seed it let it KO your grass type. Send in any normal type, It will try to use Focus Blast or Judgment. Switch to any ghost type pokemon which will be immune to any of the attack it will try to throw you. Now it will try to use Shadow Ball so change back to your normal type which will be immune. Repeat a lot of times the same steps while it looses its hp from Leech Seed. I t will take a lot of time but it's by far the most funny way to prove that the AI is shit and will never defeat a human Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScuzBrains Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 spoilers are I don't know if you can catch something that learns perish song but Perish song is the best for single pokémon bosses (Like pulse machines) You can catch a misdreavous in the wasteland, if you know where to look, I think mismagius learns perish song. (You will need to use it before dying though, so you need to use something like tailwind, trick room or paralyze prior to perisher switcch in if you're slower than he is and can't tank a hit) EDIT: just in case you didn't notice by now, you are supposed to beat him to progress is the story Thank you for telling me how to hide spoilers! As for catching a new Pokemon just to beat him, I'd rather not do that, I'm saved right i from of him, so I don't want to go find something, raise it up, then use it just for this battle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If you found the focus sash, emolga or pachirisu can paralyze or a sturdy magnemite with thunder wave. This can be beaten without gimmicks. I had a machamp with special defense evs (not as crazy as it sounds) it could have easily tanked three hits. Dynamic punch with no guard and arceus was dead in two hits. There's plenty of ways if you're creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Or use three Sturdy Gravelers with Earthquake. 1st Graveler survives and transforms the field into a cave. 2nd and 3rd Graveler will make the ceiling colapse leading to KOing Arceus!I love manipulating the field effects <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 How opposed are you to siding with El over Radomus (it makes pretty much no impact on anything). If you side with El you still battle Arceus but you are allowed to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScuzBrains Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 How opposed are you to siding with El over Radomus (it makes pretty much no impact on anything). If you side with El you still battle Arceus but you are allowed to lose. Honestly, I think I can live with that, if it has no impact I'm less weary about it, I'll probably still feel kinda bad, but man, I really cant beat that bootleg alpha pokemon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 now you can always go back a take that kricketune you dumped in the box and train it a bit to learn perish song and smack on a focus sash and win in 3 turn or you can use a ghost type with destiny bond to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Smokescreens and defense reductions do wonders. TLDR I beat him with 3smokescreens and acid spray spam until it fainted Edited September 15, 2015 by Masquerain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pausaunias Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 i think in the speciffic part of the game it doesn't mutter if you lose to Arceus. i fight it and lose my team with 6 KOs and the storyline continued without problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniper Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 It only doesn't matter if you choose to side with El, I think. (In which case, YOU HAS BE DECEPTED! GIT GUD, SON!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, it only doesn't matter if you side with El, otherwise you're forced to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'd rather not change up my team or hack anything in, I'm just not sure how to beat this behemoth, Though, my Nidoking has Poison Point, so I can probably try and abuse F12, that's what I did with Pangoro anyways --edit-- okay, so, he's not getting poisoned, or burned from whatever i try, and all my pokemon, who are as high as the cap, get taken out in either one or two hits, so I have no idea what to do. If you're not willing to make changes in order to adapt to oncoming obstacles, then you're going to have a lot more trouble than you should. That's like saying "I've been using hiking boots to get up this hill, but I'd rather not switch over to climbing gear in order to scale this cliff face that I've encountered along the way." Sure, you can try to get to the top of the cliff with only your hiking boots, but you're going to have an excessive amount of unnecessary difficulty. So yeah, you COULD keep using your preexisting team against this Arceus and hope for a different result, but it would be more sensible for you to identify an effective alternative and use that. Be sure to keep in mind that there are battles later on in the game which you can't skip! Adaptation will be crucial in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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