Tacos Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I mean, it's not a pokemon with the prankster ability, it's just got an Impish nature and it's a pokemon that I've always seen as quite a prankster. I also think it fits perfectly with my character. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 If I may chime in: I don't think a homophobic character would necessarily be a bad thing, IF it was done right, i.e. they don't go running around spouting slurs and throwing shit at the LGBT characters. I think it could actually be somewhat interesting, especially if they were otherwise a "good" character overall. But, as the majority has spoken, this is all just my opinion. Murdoc, that's a HUGE if. And I definitely agree with that point of view, but I really don't think many people have the skills to do that in a way that is actually constructive and not just detrimental to the enjoyment of others or the character itself. I doubt even I have those skills. Therefore I really don't suggest it and really don't want to see it. ((as is my stance on all this stuff for the most part. I've seen plenty of things people write that they don't understand [cause they aren't those things and have no point of reference] and end up writing bad characters who's defining characteristic becomes that thing. It's a really crappy crutch for something to be interesting and it's suuuuper poor writing. This almost always happens in my experience.)) I don't exactly like letting powder kegs that could easily explode just laying out in the open. I advise against it after all. I can't keep someone from writing it, but I can axe it if it's just going to be an issue ((which is all I ever see developing out of it.)) RPs just aren't the place to really handle these things and I still kinda believe that. Either way, it's Chim decision as this is his RP. ((well and Dobbs too I suppose lol.)) Either way that's the last I'm saying anything on this let's jsut move onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 Mr Chain is rather tired from the preparations, which is why I'm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Then probably should've sne that to jsut you then? Eh... whatevs you both can look it over I'mma need the help catchin' up with the Ymora region so it's probably good Chim's in there for later lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Don't count out my character's pokemon. Also yeah, I'd be fine with a homophobic character if it didn't define him as a person. Main reason I'd be against it is because our last person was legitimately using homophobic slurs in the OOC before his character even had the chance to start. I also feel the need to mention that he was eventually banned from the forums. Well, without going into detail, there were huge attitude problems involved as well. OT: Originally planned on bringing back Kage, but I'm torn between a few possibilities at the moment (though one in particular could have technically been present the whole time...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm just going to be honest here. I don't really want to see a talking and illusion making Zorua after that whole thing from anyone. If someone wants to use it, keep it to the game mechanics and not have it talk. Ok, that right there, raises another question for me on what sort of rulings we'll have about the logistics, because from studying the old Ymora RP, I found that it was a mishmash of both. What's the verdict for this go around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Usually you can go off kilter, however somethings do need restriction. ((since if you can do what the hell ever with some things... you're going to be maaaaaaaaaaad op. SOme things alos don;t have a use out of the game so new uses need to be invented. Also, it's safe to say ones that have a behavior connotation should be present in the Pokemon's personality. Like if you Have Moxie [a.k.a Over Confidence in Japanese and really what it means anyway.] that should probably be present in the mon's personality. Same with things like Prankster to some degree, things like ANger Point, Gluttony, Simple.... the list goes on.)) So, short, usually. However soemtimes some things are really broken giving free range ((Illusion is a big example since people started trying form it jsut projects images [which is what it should've remained in the first place...] etc..)) so it's case by case and a little haphazard. Freedom is usually what they rule with and they try to help you out if you wirte it well and it's a healthy use of the ability, move etc... otherwise the ruling will be the other way. Hopefully that explains... soemthing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not here to post anything smart cuz all of you are already having your deep discussions, so I'm just gonna watse your time with a question because I dunno what to do ~~~~~ Should Shiro stay a boy or should he be a girl, what do you say, guys, I can't decide, lolz o3o Eheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 For game mechanics, the best bet was to crss those bridges when we came to them. Provided you aren't pulling complete BS or can justify your logic, you can do as you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hmm... Just need to get a good character to work with. Robert (The character I used last time) is my main choice and has a pretty thought out backstory, and the only problem I'd have is if the Riolu wasn't able to be his starter. And since Mareek is already going with Sableye I have no real reason push for what would be my number two idea... Hmm... I'm on the fence of re-using Robert or getting a new trainer and backstory for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 For game mechanics, the best bet was to crss those bridges when we came to them. Provided you aren't pulling complete BS or can justify your logic, you can do as you wish. There was a time where we considered rulesets, but what we basically settled with is to try and avoid powerplay and just straight up OP tactics. It's very unusual fighting style and takes some time to get used to, but when you do and both people play fair, it's a hell of a lot of fun because you don't know what to expect. I usually was able to pull something completely new each battle due to how Henry was more of a trickster type battler. Edit: Bfrog, play Shiro however you want. TBH, I feel like he would fit the role of either gender just fine. (Ironically, nothing probably would change between Shiro and Henry even with a gender difference XD...if they would even interact at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 RP battles will always be pretty lax. To make a ruleset to account for everything is insane, truly it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hmm... Just need to get a good character to work with. Robert (The character I used last time) is my main choice and has a pretty thought out backstory, and the only problem I'd have is if the Riolu wasn't able to be his starter. And since Mareek is already going with Sableye I have no real reason push for what would be my number two idea... Hmm... I'm on the fence of re-using Robert or getting a new trainer and backstory for them. You could just use this opportunity to redo Klai and give him a personality right from the get-go if you wanted to, like you decided to try to do in the original towards the end... and I'm about 99% certain Chim was talking specifically to kenny about the No Riolu for starter, so... Hell, who knows, if you decide to keep the detail about him (Klai) almost being killed by a sableye in the past only to be saved by Robert jumping in front of the blow, it could even lead to something interesting... RP battles will always be pretty lax. To make a ruleset to account for everything is insane, truly it is. This right here. it quite simply is not humanly possible to sit down and think of every scenario that can occur and make a specific, codified guideline to govern it. Hence why the vast majority of all pokemon RPs that have ever been on here, including Old Ymora, Surge Story, the PMD RP that ran into the ground because I was stuck administrating without any help or active contribution from the creator at all , Sins of Avalon, etc, more or less just opted to use a looser, more free form general rule that creativity would be tolerated so long as it didn't become abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Comm Comm! (I'll make up stupid nicknames for all of you I consider myself close enough to, so brace yourselves) I asked cuz I can't decide >< I mean, keeping him as a boy feels right, but making him a girl feels more spiffy cuz I'd have to make his/her team much more manly to reflect the gender swap (male Shiro gets female-ish Pokemon, female Shiro gets all the musclemon and it'd be fun to have Shun as the manly white knight, Gallade, eheheh) I'll just wait and see then, I guess *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 If all the vets just pulled a genderswap, I would push for Chim to throw y'all a bone, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Bone? What bone? Cubone? I don't need no cubone this time. get that mess outta here XD No, but in all seriousness though, I... briefly considered a gender bend... but doing it to the point where I'd feel satisfied to my own personal standards and depth ((IE, actually thinking about what would be affected and why, not just changing him to a girl and leaving the job at that)) would honestly take far more work and require me to change even more things and details than I already have had to for the male, not-fatherless version of him... so I just dropped the idea and stuck with the male. though... no, no... I've come too far, put in too much work into this version... EDIT: screw it. Maybe. But... that's a very big maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Eh, I'm taking this as something fun, not something I should strain over. *puts braids onto Shiro and makes Shun male to have that male/female Pokemon/trainer dynamic* There, character tranformation done! c: But srsly, female Shiro would be the same as male Shiro, just female, lol As I said, I'll wait and see what the others have prepared before making my final decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 Claudia would be a lot more boisterous, open and probably more liable to get starry eyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I suppose Citrine probably would be more socially accepted which is why I probably wouldn't change her gender. Henry though wouldn't change that much at all. Maybe get a bit more moody, but it'd still be Henry more or less. I've played both genders and it really depends on the setting how much they'll change when they change genders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 You could just use this opportunity to redo Klai and give him a personality right from the get-go if you wanted to, like you decided to try to do in the original towards the end... and I'm about 99% certain Chim was talking specifically to kenny about the No Riolu for starter, so... Hell, who knows, if you decide to keep the detail about him (Klai) almost being killed by a sableye in the past only to be saved by Robert jumping in front of the blow, it could even lead to something interesting... That actually sounds perfect! Okay, it's settled then as long as Chim's fine with it.As for the genderbend joke, I'd only make my character a different gender if it was relevant to the character. Plus, Chloe was the secondary character but no chance I'm using her since I'm sure Stratos using Sableye will do better than I could hope to with Hectic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I suppose Citrine probably would be more socially accepted which is why I probably wouldn't change her gender. Henry though wouldn't change that much at all. Maybe get a bit more moody, but it'd still be Henry more or less. I've played both genders and it really depends on the setting how much they'll change when they change genders. this right here. Now that i think about it though, losing the only primary male role model she had probaly wouldn't have affected her nearly as much in the end... or maybe it would've and she still would've ended up feeling betrayed and grow up to be even more distrustful of males than the previous version was. Yeah, that's likely what would've happened. Still aloof and withdrawn, still on guard around guys, still only really to open up around ('other' in this hypothetical) females or friends... probably not as obsessed with chasing terrorists down though. Basically a bit of an ice queen... but dayum, dat excuse to actually run ice types...perfect. it's already forming in my head. I don't know, Turbo... sorry, but I might on second thought have to look into this path a bit. ((But that doesn't mean you can't still redo Klai though )) EDIT: I'm doing it. I'll keep the revised male but start working on the female... I'll just have to choose which sheet to actually use when the time comes, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I dunno. The way I write characters I personally don't think their gender matters. ((but it's cause I don't like to confirm to gender bias etc... hell pretty much most of my female characters except maybe Jupiter are very tom-boyish etc... especially characters like Snow.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 If all the vets just pulled a genderswap, I would push for Chim to throw y'all a bone, just saying. Do purely biological genderswaps count? (Yes, that's what I'm considering ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 22, 2015 Do purely biological genderswaps count? (Yes, that's what I'm considering ) Fuck it, sure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Do purely biological genderswaps count? (Yes, that's what I'm considering ) What... does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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