Chim Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Btw Azery, I remember you had an Ymora Region Map. Do you still have it? I think I forgot to transfer it over from my old laptop... And Darvan, one last thing; Make sure there's a line or pattern in your random personality character. I don't want to see opposite reactions just because it would suit you better. The only reason I didn't flag it as a sue is because your character can become the a-hole Commander so dearly wants to see. But yeah, give the character a personality as we go further into the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted September 25, 2015 Veterans Share Posted September 25, 2015 Btw Azery, I remember you had an Ymora Region Map. Do you still have it? I think I forgot to transfer it over from my old laptop... And Darvan, one last thing; Make sure there's a line or pattern in your random personality character. I don't want to see opposite reactions just because it would suit you better. The only reason I didn't flag it as a sue is because your character can become the a-hole Commander so dearly wants to see. But yeah, give the character a personality as we go further into the story. I think so, might have lost it however. I'll look for it in a moment. Also, no story is without it's overly complicated asshole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Personality A random individual to say at best, in terms of emotion. He never really shows a predicted reaction, whether expected or unexpected either one. Does not like arrogant people, or smug people who can't back their talk. Willing to lead a group if pressured or no one is willing to take a stand. Becomes very paranoid when he notices suspicious things, or things out of place. Really lazy in terms of structured work and prepares to go at his own pace. Extra- Due to his random nature, don't be surprised if Ross says questionably logical things or horns in on conversations at the weirdest times. I'm kinda sorry... but uh... People don't work like that. We don't have random emotions to things, that's not how it works. Because if his personality is random he can;t have a prescribed go to for smug or arrogant people since every time he reacts to something as you described it's a random reaction. That's a 100% certain thing and therefore is not random... therefore his personality is not random. He can;t be willing to lead a group if he'd randomly determine if he wanted to or not. I'm sorry but the way this is written right now imo looks kinda like "Oh I'll jsut shoehorn in an excuse to do whatever the heck I want with his personality and not have to describe it one iota and be like lol, he's just so random." It's... super contradictory quite Sueish and should be removed from the app imo. People don't work like that so it's also not realistic in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Btw Azery, I remember you had an Ymora Region Map. Do you still have it? I think I forgot to transfer it over from my old laptop... And Darvan, one last thing; Make sure there's a line or pattern in your random personality character. I don't want to see opposite reactions just because it would suit you better. The only reason I didn't flag it as a sue is because your character can become the a-hole Commander so dearly wants to see. But yeah, give the character a personality as we go further into the story. I thought Kenny filled that role. There's really no such thing as random imo but there is such thing as being really moody (Larry Butz from Phoenix Wright is probably the best example of this). I just don't see any rhyme or reason to why he'd act that way in the backstory unless he was mentally ill as a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted September 25, 2015 Veterans Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think so, might have lost it however. I'll look for it in a moment. Also, no story is without it's overly complicated asshole Btw Azery, I remember you had an Ymora Region Map. Do you still have it? I think I forgot to transfer it over from my old laptop... And Darvan, one last thing; Make sure there's a line or pattern in your random personality character. I don't want to see opposite reactions just because it would suit you better. The only reason I didn't flag it as a sue is because your character can become the a-hole Commander so dearly wants to see. But yeah, give the character a personality as we go further into the story. So I looked around for it and only found an Incomplete version. I'll edit it a bit and finish it, should be easy enough considering I still have the original map you made way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 I'm kinda sorry... but uh... People don't work like that. We don't have random emotions to things, that's not how it works. Because if his personality is random he can;t have a prescribed go to for smug or arrogant people since every time he reacts to something as you described it's a random reaction. That's a 100% certain thing and therefore is not random... therefore his personality is not random. He can;t be willing to lead a group if he'd randomly determine if he wanted to or not. I'm sorry but the way this is written right now imo looks kinda like "Oh I'll jsut shoehorn in an excuse to do whatever the heck I want with his personality and not have to describe it one iota and be like lol, he's just so random." It's... super contradictory quite Sueish and should be removed from the app imo. People don't work like that so it's also not realistic in the slightest. I completely missed that Extra part so that's my fault. Aside from that I think I should explain my thought process to avoid any further discussion: Those that were around last time probably remember someone named Antares. I kept telling him over and over again what worked and what didn't work. And Darvan's character's personality reminded me a lot about him. Now since I kept changing things, the reactions I got turned the entire OOC into a battlefield. Now I haven't seen Darvan doing that kind of character in any other RP and I haven't seen him powerplay others so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt, because there are a lot of other characters that don't like people and aren't very sociable. To be blunt I need some Henry's. Darvan's character fits. But this is how things are going to be: At the first sign of powerplaying / not making any sense (aka opposite reactions, doing things in his favor, etc): first warning. I will tell him what's wrong and that he can't keep doing it. Second time: Remember him about what I said the first time because people are allowed to make a mistake. Third time: Final warning Next offense: Out of here. So apparently taking this approach doesn't work either, but if I can stop the BSing around it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Chim, does it work if I switch myself up (back) into a Coordinator, make a few tweaks to the backstory and all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 To be blunt I need some Henry's. Darvan's character fits. I suppose I should explain the terminology behind this character for those who are new to Ymora. What Chim is talking about is a trait really revolutionized the Ymora RP and created a few fantastic interaction. Henry, the character I played, was pretty much the black sheep of all the characters in that past Ymora. What made him so unique was that he didn't try to be friends with people, in fact, he pushed them away, irritated them, even straight up wanting them to rage to enjoy their pain. He always was doing questionable things, willing to sabotage and conceal information from others all for his own benefit. He wasn't made to be likeable by the PCs (though everybody in the OOC enjoyed him for that). Henry wasn't the most well made character and had a ton of sueish qualities which is why I picked Citrine over him. There's a lot of suish or dark things I'd have to still include in the story to keep Henry the way he is. The backstory wasn't what made him an enjoyable character though, but the fact he was so different from the norm. I'm still hesitant to revive the OG a-hole back, but...it kind of wouldn't be the same without a character like that. That's why I'm going to ask this: do you guys want Henry back or would you rather have someone else fill that role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 25, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 25, 2015 Bfroger, if you do please PM me the finished product. I can tell already keeping PC info up t date is going to be tedious. That goes for you all, please PM me any definite changes to your profile or team so that I can update things smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Bfroger, if you do please PM me the finished product. I can tell already keeping PC info up t date is going to be tedious. That goes for you all, please PM me any definite changes to your profile or team so that I can update things smoothly. I'm real real sorry for this >< I'll send it to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Chim, does it work if I switch myself up (back) into a Coordinator, make a few tweaks to the backstory and all that? What Dobby said. Just switching between Coordinator / Trainer / Breeder is never a problem, but the tweaks you do to the backstory can be important. I suppose I should explain the terminology behind this character for those who are new to the series. What Chim is talking about is a trait really revolutionized the Ymora RP and created a few fantastic interaction. Henry, the character I played, was pretty much the black sheep of all the characters in that past Ymora. What made him so unique was that he didn't try to be friends with people, in fact, he pushed them away, irritated them, even straight up wanting them to rage to enjoy their pain. He always was doing questionable things, willing to sabotage and conceal information from others all for his own benefit. He wasn't made to be likeable by the PCs (though everybody in the OOC enjoyed him for that). Henry wasn't the most well made character and had a ton of sueish qualities which is why I picked Citrine over him. There's a lot of suish or dark things I'd have to still include in the story to keep Henry the way he is. The backstory wasn't what made him an enjoyable character though, but the fact he was so different from the norm. I'm still hesitant to revive the OG a-hole back, but...it kind of wouldn't be the same without a character like that. That's why I'm going to ask this: do you guys want Henry back or would you rather have someone else fill that role? I'd say keep Citrine. I enjoyed her during the short YGO RP and she doesn't seem to have sueish traits. It's just that last time I had Evan to piss people off, Henry who turned everyone into an enemy and Alvin to annoy everyone. Now I don't have Alvin anymore and his replacement is a mixture between Phoebe and is really outgoing. She might make an interesting pair with Citrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I'm just tweaking the last part where it says Shiro's applying for Breeder >< And I'm actually just adding a line to wrap it up that he's gonna go Coordinator ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I also suppose I should clarify one last time about my dude Ross. I've instead changed it to weird expressions over certain circumstances. He could be your best friend or your worst enemy. Frankly, this is the first time I'm trying a character with a strange and untethered personality. Let's just say Ross is the kind of guy who you can't expect to roll with the punches, or take the full brunt of them, or strafe and counter. Maybe we're just blowing it way out of proportion, but like Chim said, I'm not gonna bend him to my superior will. It's just kinda insulting to my writing skills and show that y'all can't trust a fellow RP'er to not go haywire. I swear it won't get out of control, and I'll roll with what Chim tells me if I start pulling random shit out my ass that won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 25, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 25, 2015 Maybe we're just blowing it way out of proportion, but like Chim said, I'm not gonna bend him to my superior will. It's just kinda insulting to my writing skills and show that y'all can't trust a fellow RP'er to not go haywire. Past experiences encourages such precautions, it's not personal. Just healthy paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Well then, write it in a way it's understood and not that it's super confusing on the surface. What can be seen at first glance is very important to writing, Describing it as a random personality isn't correct and it misconstrues what he's about. It's kinda a disservice to your character. It's not that I don't trust you, it's that the way it sounds with how it was written doesn't sound correct or is in a way that the character might not be enjoyable to play for yourself. Trust me... in my years of DMing I had a guy who always made characters with some random personalities etc... and like session two of whatever we were playing he always got super bored and just retired the character. Because if you don't have anything to play too... you just aren't going to have a fun time. You've got nothing to build upon, and just nowhere to go as a character since in one instance this could happen and then it comes up again and you do something entirely different just cause. I've never seen a character that's totally random ever go well. Because that player just doesn't know what they want to do and they just quickly tire of it ((which is annoying to accommodate in the middle of something.)) Like really, just remove the line about it being random or better explain the intention and I'm completely fine with it. ((and not actually saying you really have to... after all, Chim already accepted the character.)) I just want you to enjoy your time and not just instantly give up on your character like so many do when they just make their personality not matter. I've seen it crash and burn waaaay too many times. And it was never because the character was completely bad, it was cause the player had nothing to play to and they just got bored. I'd rather that not happen super early on in n RP since it's super not helpful. I'm not the best at explaining myself sometimes, I'll admit. But that's why I said anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Time for the obligatory distribution count: Let's see...Seven Trainers, Three Breeders, and Five Coordinators... More even than I expected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Mmm...the Elf provides a pressing point. The Sensei also. Okay then. I understand. Edit: Rewording it was really all I needed to do then I guess. Edited September 25, 2015 by Darvan Korematsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Time for the obligatory distribution count: Let's see...Seven Trainers, Three Breeders, and Five Coordinators... More even than I expected... Now is when we start calculating the number of possible ships, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Now is when we start calculating the number of possible ships, right? *cracks knuckes* Let's do it~ 15C2=105 Edited September 25, 2015 by Hiss13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted September 25, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted September 25, 2015 Halt, we're not even at port yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted September 25, 2015 Veterans Share Posted September 25, 2015 Setting Sail already...bad idea. Storm's up ahead, better stop at port for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 *cracks knuckes* Let's do it~ 15C2=105 If that includes Emberly in that number... you've signed your name on my death list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Time for the obligatory distribution count: Let's see...Seven Trainers, Three Breeders, and Five Coordinators... More even than I expected... You forgot to count Claude so 6 coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 If that includes Emberly in that number... you've signed your name on my death list. It would have been more ironic if you told me that you would destroy that fucked up illusion of mine. Just saying~ You forgot to count Claude so 6 coordinators. Ah. So I did. 16C2=120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Now is when we start calculating the number of possible ships, right? *cracks knuckes* Let's do it~ 15C2=105 Lols... after all this time, I've just learned to stop giving a damn about shipping altogether at this point. If it happens- and the development is actually well written and logically paced and you know... not just chalked up to something pitiful like Pure Infatuation or so rushed that it's obviously forced and planned from the get-go -then it happens... I basically don't care so long as there's quality to it. In RPs, I personally don't ever go in pre-planning Ships, but if a PC of mine somehow happens to get close enough to someone else to start developing legitimate feelings...well, what can ya do? If their characterization allows for it, then I just go with the natural flow and don't interfere. Of course though, none of my children have ever actually had this happen to them before anyway, so... this is all just hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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