aGoodCabinet Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 All of her pokemon are poison types....that's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I did. They still label her as a Ghost user tho. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted October 12, 2015 Global Mods Share Posted October 12, 2015 She's ~officially~ a Ghost-type trainer, but because of the scarcity of ghosts back then, ended up also using poison types. Just like Lance's team as Champion aren't all Dragon, but they are all Flying. idk why they even bother making certain type specialists if they can't fill a team with Pokemon of that type. What's weirder to me though is how Sabrina has a Venomoth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They are really dumb with their typing (especially gen 1). If I remember correctly Flint's team from Gen 4 was a random assortment of types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They are really dumb with their typing (especially gen 1). If I remember correctly Flint's team from Gen 4 was a random assortment of types. Last gym leader Volkner's also got Ambipom on his team, half of his team werent even electric type, and Candice had a Medicham before Platinum remedied their situations~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Well everyone in the Elite 4 of Kanto has at least one Pokemon that isn't their 'assigned' type: Lorelei assigned Type: Ice Pokemon out of the line: Slowbro - Water/Psychic Also all of her Pokemon ar water-type except 1 - Jynx (Ice/Psychic) Bruno: assigned Type: Fighting Pokemon out of the line: 2x Onix - Rock/Ground Agatha: assigned Type: Ghost Pokemon out of the line: Arbok (Poison) + Golbat (Poison/Flying) but yeah - every of her Pokemon shares the poison-type... but that is due to the fact that the only ghosts available in Gen.1 happened to have the poison type Lance: assigned Type: Dragon Pokemon out of the line: Gyarados (Water/Flying) and Aerodactyl (Rock/Flying) Lance suffers from the same thing Agatha suffered - lack of available Pokemon of his type. The only Dragons in Gen.1 are the Dratini-line. and battling 5 Dragonairs/Dragonite would be... boring. and sorry Ice cream Sand witch - not ALL of his Pokemon are flying types... Dragonair is just Dragon and he got 2 of them. However in Gen2 you are correct... there his Dragonairs evolved into Dragonite and he also gets a Charizard... thus making him effectiveley have an all flying-team. So as you see: the assigned types come from their most USED Types... although Agatha uses 5 Poison and only 3 Ghost types... But if we take into consideration that the only Gen1 ghosts happed to have the poisontype as secondary typing... and IGNORE THAT FACT: she would use 3 Ghost and 2 Poison types, that making Ghost her most used type. also I think they assigned her Ghost despite that fact because there was already a Poison GYM! This also applies to Lance and Bruno of Gen2 ... where there was already a Flying-Gym but ALSO a Dragon Gym and Lance was an established member already and changing his typing would have been confusing. and there was a fighting gym for Bruno... This makes Gen2 (Johto) the only region where 2 types appear twice as a challange - a Gym and Elite 4 / Champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagCrusher Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm pretty sure the Dev's thought of this before when they were making Agatha (maybe one of them was drunk jk)Agatha = Old Lady (Grandma) < you know those stereotypes where your grannies tell scary spooky stories about ghost and stuff I'm thinking that were they got their inspiration (you never know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They are really dumb with their typing (especially gen 1). If I remember correctly Flint's team from Gen 4 was a random assortment of types. I think it was because Gen 4 had a really scarce amount of Fire types - and they had to use Pokemon that were capable of using Fire type moves. But then again, Drifblim didn't make any sense at all in my books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Well, Flint's team could be excused with the lack of new Fire types for Gen IV, but they gave him a Rapidash, and Steelix isn't Gen IV either. Maybe they went with some weird theme thing, for example Drifblim being based on a hot air balloon? "Lopunny is hot, right?" /shot Ghastly's line are the only Ghost Pokémon existing in Gen I, so Agatha didn't really have a lot to choose from in that aspect. Then, though, you have Gen II, where they gave us Misdreavus, but decided that Morty wouldn't get one. shrugs Edited October 12, 2015 by Ama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessi Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 ghost pokemon are supposed to be scary so the other pokemon like golbat and arbok looked scary enough to make that team.in fact agatha looks scary as well,so it maces a nice combination about lance he chooses dragon looking pokemon in addition to his dragon types as for lorelei ice is commonly associated with water type.in addition i think slowbro is her ace as for bruno he caught an onix in the anime so it could be for that reason. as for the gen 4 combinations i newer understood those combinations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Agatha#Trivia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) I think that the Gen 1 Elite 4 aren't just basing their team off types, but themes as well. Agatha's theme was death, hence her using ghost and poison types, the types most closely associated with death. Also her being the eldest means she's closer to death and has to come to terms with dying soon moreso than the others. It's actually pretty genius. With Bruno it's probably strength, something fighting and rock types sort of embody. Lance I suspect is "heaven" or "ruler" reflected by the "sacred"reputation and majesty of dragon type and many of them being flying which is associated with the sky and how the sky extends over all in the case of "ruler". Lorelei I'm not too sure, Ice might just be ice in this case. half her team seems part water so it might have something to do with a relationship between those two. I actually find themeing with types more interesting than just mono-typing for the sake of adherence. Edited October 12, 2015 by Monochrome_Complex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted October 12, 2015 Global Mods Share Posted October 12, 2015 and sorry Ice cream Sand witch - not ALL of his Pokemon are flying types... Dragonair is just Dragon and he got 2 of them. However in Gen2 you are correct... there his Dragonairs evolved into Dragonite and he also gets a Charizard... thus making him effectiveley have an all flying-team. That's why I said his Champion team was all Flying. Champion team being his team in GSCHGSS, where he's the Champion of the Indigo League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroki Tatsumi Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I also like how Sabrina's Abra only had teleport in yellow :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Lorelei I'm not too sure, Ice might just be ice in this case. half her team seems part water so it might have something to do with a relationship between those two. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei#Original_folklore_and_the_creation_of_the_modern_myth I believe they've taken the Siren story as the origin for her name, at least if I remember it correctly. In any case, there's association with water moreso than Ice as far as her name goes. Edited October 12, 2015 by Ama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I really don't get why Game Freak felt the need to make Elite 4 members use "monotypes" for types with so little pokemon. Up until Gen 4, each Elite 4 had either at least one pokemon that didn't fit with their specialty, or 2 of the same Pokemon. In GSC, Karen had a Vileploom and a Gengar on her team of Dark types(I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet). In RSE, Phoebe had to use like 2 Banettes and 2 Dusclops, Glacia had to use 2 Glalies and 2 Sealeos(which became 2 Glalies and 2 Froslasses in ORAS for some reason) and Drake used 2 Flygons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei#Original_folklore_and_the_creation_of_the_modern_myth I believe they've taken the Siren story as the origin for her name, at least if I remember it correctly. In any case, there's association with water moreso than Ice as far as her name goes. Ah I didn't siren was the basis for her name. Ice is just frozen water after all so that could very well be it. Nice find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 In GSC, Karen had a Vileploom and a Gengar on her team of Dark types(I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet). Gengar, I can understand to an extent but I really don't know why they gave her a Vileplume. Sneasel would've fitted too imo (but Sneasel in Gen 2 sorta sucked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narckarth Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Gengar, I can understand to an extent but I really don't know why they gave her a Vileplume. Sneasel would've fitted too imo (but Sneasel in Gen 2 sorta sucked) Vileplume is a dark icky pokemon based on a creepy yucky flower so yeah I imagine it represents the darkness in nature or something. This is just a shot in the dark (pun intended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It took me a little while to actually realize that, because half of her team was Ghost while it was all Poison. You could also throw out the "she is a bitter old bitty" card to a reasonable extent and justify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froiky Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 On the topic of false (or dual) type labelling I would like to point out Koga's gym. In gen 1 games most of the gym trainers have psychic types and those that actually have poison ones also have ground types. Koga is the only trainer in his gym that has only poison types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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