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Questions about Episode 15 changes(spoilers?)


ScarletGhost

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So I started a new save file so I could play as one of the nb characters, and I've been wondering about some possible changes. Wasn't there a reveal of Corey being the cloaked guy battling Heather in the Ridowhatever jungle and then the police charged into the gym and they all got gassed or something? Also didn't the police consider you an honorary member and that was like addressed? I miss that.

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There is also a scenario change if you choose to go after Sigmund or Sirius in Charlotte's House, i took both road, and if you want details, i suggest you to take Sigmund's way :)

Which is also based on whether you decided to save Heather from Sigmund in Yuyeru Building, or ignore her and go after Sirius.

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There's like 4 branches at Charlotte's house. I don't know how it's determined who gets captured there, but I know that

-anna/Noel gets captured by Sigmund. This one happens most to me most.

-Laura gets captured by Sigmund, this happened on my flying monorun. I think I like this one over the twins getting captured AGAIN

-Sapphira surrenders to Sirius(IIRC), which is hard to believe as she's too strong for that nonsense

-I never got the last scenario, but I'm guessing it's Charlotte who gets captured...again.

While I love the scene where Sigmund gets his comeuppances via Sapphira, out of the ones getting captured Laura makes the most sense as Sapphira being introduced as this badass then getting captured is pretty lame and the others already got caught before which just makes the good guys look incompetent.

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IIRC:
Anna/Noel getting captured: fight Sigmund at Yureyu -> fight Sirius at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sigmund

Laura getting captured: fight Sirius at Yureyu -> fight Sigmund at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sirius

Saphira getting captured: fight Sirius at Yureyu -> fight Sigmund at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sigmund

so the last (which I also never got so far, will try out in my Ground Mono when I get there) should be

fight Sigmund at Yureyu -> fight Sirius at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sirius

Edit: Please do correct me if I'm wrong. The only one I am absolutely certain about at the moment is the one for Saphira getting captured, because I did it just a couple hours ago.

Edit2: Okay, so this was wrong, see everything discussed below.

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I like the Saphira one best because of the team-up with Laura in the beginning; I much prefer having the guards being put to sleep to them being killed.

Though one question does come up for me:

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^Were they stupid enough to put Saphira in there without taking away her Pokémon, or does she possess some sort of superhuman strength

...Actually, no, don't answer this. I am entertained by the mental image of Saphira bursting through these metal bars, giving the guards the fright of their life.

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IIRC:

Anna/Noel getting captured: fight Sigmund at Yureyu -> fight Sirius at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sigmund

Laura getting captured: fight Sirius at Yureyu -> fight Sigmund at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sirius

Saphira getting captured: fight Sirius at Yureyu -> fight Sigmund at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sigmund

so the last (which I also never got so far, will try out in my Ground Mono when I get there) should be

fight Sigmund at Yureyu -> fight Sirius at Belrose Mansion -> stop Sirius

Edit: Please do correct me if I'm wrong. The only one I am absolutely certain about at the moment is the one for Saphira getting captured, because I did it just a couple hours ago.

The Anna/Noel one and Laura are almost right, but Anna/Noel get captured if you Stop Sirius, and Laura gets captured if you stop Sigmund

Thunder Waves Laura, somehow manages to escape past you

. I know Anna/Noel are right as I just did it last night. You remain downstairs, and Sirius says he got informed (I don't see how, but he does) that Sigmund captured two of escapees, and then proceeds to leave.

I though the Saphiria one had to remain downstairs? I remember Saphira getting

poison tailed by Sirius' Seviper

This happened in my second run. ATM I'm on my 3rd.

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The one for saphira getting captured is definitely right, because I did it today and did so by stopping Sigmund from entering the kitchen. So yes, you stay downstairs. It has Saphira threatening and eventually attacking Sigmund, and ends with Sirius' Seviper knocking her out.

The mess-up for Laura/Twins is possible.

I do remember that in my second run I tried to get the Saphira capture route, so I fought Sirius at Yureyu and Sigmund in the Mansion, but ended up choosing the wrong thing by stopping Sirius instead of Sigmund. Possible that this resulted in the capture of the twins.

But honestly, I'm so sure that I had the twins being captured in my first playthrough? And I definitely fought Sigmund at Yureyu and Sirius at the Mansion in that one.

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I had to fight Sigmund at Yuyeru (as you see in my RainbowGen topic). When we got to the fight scene, Sigmund entered, and refused to battle me because I kicked his ass before. SO he had is orderlies detain me. Then Sirius entered and I fought him and won (narrowly). After he asked whether I would stop him or Sigmund, I chose to stay downstairs and stop him, and that's how the twins got captured in my run.

Going to replay that and see what happens if I go upstairs.

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Wait, this does bring up a question...

I am quite certain that in my first playthrough, I decided to stay downstairs and protect the kitchen (because Saphira told me that Charlotte is under my protection, and Charlotte hid in the kitchen). This resulted, IIRC, in the capture of the twins.

Either there's a difference in who stays downstairs and who goes upstairs based on which one you battle first, or it's a change between episodes?

If it's the former, then would it be like this:

Twins: Sigmund at Yureyu -> Sirius at Mansion -> stop Sirius

Laura: Sigmund at Yureyu -> Sirius at Mansion -> stop Sigmund?

I cannot remember for the life of me who got captured when I did Sirius -> Sigmund -> Sirius in my second run x.x

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So who goes upstairs does change based on who you battle at Yureyu, because if you battle Sirius first, he is the one who goes upstairs, while Sigmund wants to check the kitchen. Interesting. Thanks for checking it!

Sigmund at Yureyu -> Sirius at Mansion = Sigmund upstairs, Sirius downstairs

stop Sigmund > Laura gets captured

stop Sirius > twins get captured

Sirius at Yureyu -> Sigmund at Mansion = Sirius upstairs, Sigmund downstairs

stop Sigmund = Saphira gets captured

stop Sirius = ???

Man it's really grinding my gears that I can't remember that last one. I picked that path the previous time I played through this arc. Is it possible that Charlotte and Shelly get captured here?

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stop Sirius = ???

Man it's really grinding my gears that I can't remember that last one. I picked that path the previous time I played through this arc. Is it possible that Charlotte and Shelly get captured here?

Yes, it is possible. Actually, I'm fairly sure it's that one.

Want to know how I know this? It's the one that happened on my original playthrough. Charlotte and Shelly captured.

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