Shadolance Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So I'm a huge fan of the following pokemon, and I'd like some advice getting metagame builds for them if possible. I know they aren't all OU, but these are simply mons that I like. Please include stats to work towards on each, moveset included. Flygon Noivern Camerupt Tropius Gardevoir Cryogonal Thanks team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Welp they largely differ not just in roles and gameplay, but also in tiers, with Flygon, Noivern and Camerupt being mid-tier mons (I am not up-to-date on the last Smogon suspect discussions, but they should all be RU or UU at most IIRC), Gardevoir being firmly in the top tier OU (and an effective one at that, her mega form being one of the dominant special attackers of the tier), Cryogonal seeing respectable usage in NU (or was it RU? My memory plays tricks on me sometimes) and Tropius being... Welp, I honestly cannot think of any kind words to say about Tropius, sorry. So yeah, some better knowledge of the tier system, some deeper understanding of how the current metagame works and more importantly some more precise info as to what Pokemon you want to use in what team for what tier would be required, before talking about individual builds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonBeastMan Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Flygon is used in RU as either a Defog user, a Choice Band/Scarf user, or Offensive LO defog. Mega Camerupt is a powerful wallbreaker in UU and RU, problem is that it's super slow Noivern is used in UU, usually as a Life Orb offensive set I think. Mega Gardevoir, as said above, is one of the best special attackers in OU. Cryogonal is used in NU and RU as a Rapid Spinner, but it's typing wears it down. Tropius is ass, sorry but it's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorReborn Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 SInce everyone else has already addressed most of these mons, I'll talk about the one that they both knew nothing about: Tropius. I'll be frank, it's pretty bad. It's speed is terrible and those attacking stats aren't getting it anywhere, so the only real function it serves is something of a bulky SubSeed abuser in FU, which is a subtier of PU, which in turn is a subtier of NU. Basically, it can tank hits from some of the lowest pokemon around. Gererally, the best set you can mange for it is something like Tropius @ Sitrus Berry Ability: Harvest EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD Bold Nature - Leech Seed - Substitute - Air Slash - Protect / Toxic / Giga Drain This allows it to take hits and heal up tons while slowly whittling away at your foe. It has a lot of weaknesses, however, so be careful with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadolance Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Like I said in the first post, I'm doing this purely for fun. I like building metagame, I'm just asking about some pokemon I've never built for before. These are simply pokemon I like, nothing more. I already have a subseeder Venusaur and Sceptile on my other games, I might go with that for Tropius in this one. Actually some of my favorite movesets are spiker setups for Skarmory/Foretress and ThunderSlash builds for Togekiss. I know a fair bit about metagame, I won't pretend to be an expert, I really just wanted more opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashingStorm Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 So I'm a huge fan of the following pokemon, and I'd like some advice getting metagame builds for them if possible. I know they aren't all OU, but these are simply mons that I like. Please include stats to work towards on each, moveset included. Flygon Noivern Camerupt Tropius Gardevoir Cryogonal Thanks team To the best and also.. Strangest of my teambuilding abilities.. Flygon can run multiple sets, it's up to you whether you would want an offense Flygon or defensive Defog user. Personal favorite Flygon though: Flygon @ Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpAtk / 252 Speed Jolly Nature - Earthquake - Outrage - Boomburst / Crunch / U-Turn - Stone Edge / Rock Slide I've loved Noivern, but since it fell down to UU, I've never really used it anymore. Noivern @ Focus Sash Ability: Infiltrator EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed Timid Nature - Hurricane / Air Slash - Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse - U-Turn - Flamethrower All I can really suggest for Camerupt is Mega Camerupt. Camerupt @ Cameruptite Ability: Solid Rock EVs: 28 HP / 200 Atk / 200 SpAtk / 24 SpDef Mild Nature - Earth Power - Rock Slide - Lava Plume / Flamethrower / Fire Blast - Yawn / Protect Gardevoir is bae, a bit lacking in speed but still very good in OU. Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite or Life Orb Ability: Trace EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed Timid Nature - Moonblast / Hyper Voice (only for Mega Gardevoir) - Psyshock / Psychic - Will-o-Wisp / Thunder Wave - Calm Mind / Protect / Trick Room / Hidden Power Fire Cryogonal.. I've only used in a Reborn playthrough once. Cryogonal @ Focus Sash / Light Clay Ability: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed Timid Nature - Freeze-Dry / Ice Beam - Rapid Spin / Recover / Flash Cannon - Reflect / Light Screen - Reflect / Light Screen / Explosion / Signal Beam (whether you want more coverage or dual screen use with Light Clay Good luck with your team-building! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadolance Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thank you sincerely. I will look into these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Flygon @ Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpAtk / 252 Speed Jolly Nature - Earthquake - Outrage - Boomburst / Crunch / U-Turn - Stone Edge / Rock Slide I've loved Noivern, but since it fell down to UU, I've never really used it anymore. Noivern @ Focus Sash Ability: Infiltrator EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed Timid Nature - Hurricane / Air Slash - Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse - U-Turn - Flamethrower Can't help but notice that you are uggesting Boomburst for Flygon, but not for Noivern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I mean, you could go Scarf, but if you like defense, Flybae can work just as well. Flygon @ LeftoversAbility: LevitateEVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 24 SpeCareful Nature- Defog- Roost- Earthquake- U-turn / Toxic / Dragon Tail Noivern can only be used in UU or above, which is rather unfortunate for it, but it's speed is quite advantageous. Here's a Fast Taunt set that can buy your team some momentum. Noivern @ LeftoversAbility: InfiltratorEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Draco Meteor- Flamethrower / Air Slash- Taunt- Roost With Camerupt, you don't have to go Mega if you're playing in a lower tier, but if going for OverUsed, MegaRupt is a fantastic wallbreaker and should always Mega Evolved. Camerupt @ CameruptiteAbility: Solid RockEVs: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 SpeModest Nature- Fire Blast- Earth Power- Ancient Power- Stealth Rock / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic Gardevoir should always be run Mega using Hyper Voice....unless it shouldn't. Got a problem with Swift Swimmers or Sand Rush Excadrill? Enter TraceScarf 'Voir Gardevoir @ Choice ScarfAbility: TraceEVs: 4 SpD / 252 SpA / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Moonblast- Psyshock- Focus Blast- Shadow Ball Cryagonal is primarily used as a diverse rapid spinner option who threatens Ground types trying to set up Rocks, as well as Waters with Freeze-Dry access. Cryogonal @ NeverMeltIce / LeftoversAbility: LevitateEVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Rapid Spin- Freeze-Dry- Ice Beam / Hidden Power Ground- Recover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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