Zen Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hmm, grass was never really a stalling type... so perhaps it's time to try and make a grass team aimed at stalling --- Roserade (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Poison Point EVs: 236 Def / 20 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Leaf Storm - Leech Seed - Sleep Powder - Toxic Spikes --- Cradily (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Suction Cups EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Rock Slide - Sandstorm - Stockpile - Recover --- Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Gyro Ball - Power Whip - Leech Seed - Stealth Rock --- Venusaur (M) @ Black Sludge Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 116 Def / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - SolarBeam - Sludge Bomb - Hidden Power [Fire] - Sunny Day --- Ludicolo (M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Swift Swim EVs: 152 Def / 252 SAtk / 100 Spd Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Surf - Giga Drain - Ice Beam - Rain Dance --- Whimsicott (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Prankster EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Worry Seed - Substitute - Leech Seed - Encore --- So, the basic mixture for stalling is all there - whimsicott/ferrothorn/cradily. Roserade's there to start the party going by laying out TSpikes, or to send someone to sleep and plant Leech Seeds. Leaf Storm's for cleaning up potentially hazardous threats. Come to think of it, the cradily and roserade used in this team match those from Florinia's old team. Hmm. Basically, it's a poison/Seed stall team. Against metallic teams, I'd send out ludicolo or venusaur to clean up a little (see their moves above and description below). Hmm, so that left the question of who the remaining two should be. Since I frankly could not decide, I included ludicolo and venusaur as self-powered speed sweepers should my attempt at stalling fail. Between the two of them, opposing weather teams are pretty much screwed if I get my weather up. Initially, I had rotom-C for burn stalls with Pain Split and Substitute, but due to Will-O-Wisp's incredible accuracy, I dropped the lawnmower from the team. If the opponent is running SkarmBliss or chansey... then I'll just have to grit my teeth and prepare for a long match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted January 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted January 28, 2012 Interesting idea having three unique solo-weather fighters, but I'm not sure how effective at countering weather teams they'll be considering the synergetic cost to your team. But yes, this isn't unlike Florinia's old teams, because her singles were stall as well. Being that I helped her with them a lot, I should mention this: Ferrothorn and Cradily are sufficient for countering grass's weaknesses themselves, however after that, Fighting types become the real problem, because that's what both Ferrothorn and Cradily are weak to. It's for this reason that Florinia started using Amoongus- to sponge fighting moves and spore back. Although with Toxic Spikes, you'd be tripping over yourself... hm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Fighters are indeed a pain, which is why I keep two grass/poison pokemon around Barring ice moves or blaziken, venusaur and roserade can usually handle fighters between them. And unless they're lucario or those bastard conkeldurr, the TSpikes will hurt them a decent bit. You are also right with regards to the compromised synergy that comes with the versatility. However, the constant weather switches are also a rather effective means of baiting an opponent into switching in and out over the TSpikes. I'm tempted to try physical venusaur to get Earthquake in the Sun mix, to counter opposing fire pokemon, though. The biggest issue I've had while playtesting this one is me getting trolled by the Find Battle algorithm. Somehow, when I run this, I rarely ever run into weather teams at all, and instead get loads of matches against the likes of hitmonlee/scrafty/conkeldurr/gallade! XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Cradily (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Suction Cups EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Rock Slide - Sandstorm - Stockpile - Recover --- Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Gyro Ball - Power Whip - Leech Seed - Stealth Rock Do you put no hp EVs for a reason because this is on your other thread with wierd EVs and natures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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