Solor Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Hey Guys'n'girls! Like the Topic already says, i want to change my team and i do have a slight plan which ones. But more to this later. First comes the Team. Metagross (+atk -sp.atk "clear body) Agility, Zen Headbutt, Hammer Arm, Meteor Smash. Sceptile (+ sp.atk -sp.def "overgrow") Dual Chop, Leaf Blade, Leaf Storm, Gigadrain Swampert (+sp.atk -speed "torrent") Muddy Water, Hydro Pump, Earthquake, Hammer Arm (with Wide Lens/168 atk 144 sp.atk/lvl60) Luxray (+atk -sp.def "guts") Charge, Wild Charge, Thunder Fang, ...Strength Arcanine (+atk -def "flash fire") Extreme Speed, Fire Fang, Thunder Fang, Close Combat Noivern (+speed -atk "telepathy") Dragon Pulse, Air Slash, Super Fang, Roost So, this is my Team. As you can probably think, Arcanine, Luxray, Metagross and Swampert have a high attack stat, Noivern and Sceptile a high sp. attack. Swampert does also have a good sp attack stat, because i thought about muddy water and hydro pump to be a "good to have" against pokemon with water weakness and/or low sp.def. Luxray on the other hand only has its high attack stat, which is even lower than metagross. Its deff is really low and i think its the one i want to change, because i need 1 more with good sp.atk and good 'ol arcanine knows Thunder Fang. The only Reason i like it, is because its shiny and shiny luxray looks like HES FROM HELL! Metagross is nice as it is in my opinion. It does what it should. Arcanine could have better iv's but thats breeding stuff. It hits pretty good and lives long enough to make a certain amount of damage. Sceptile and Noivern. They're the Reason why I'm so confused. Sceptile has some pretty good moves and enough defence to gigadrain some rounds and do a lot of damage, but somtimes it gets hit hard and wipes in the first round. It also has Grass type, which i think i could dispose of, thinking about my thunder fang arcanine or my swampert. Noivern on the other hand is a dragon, which i like, with a secondary type, which i dont like. its my fastest pokemon and it could kill damaged enemys. or lower the hp of tanky mons so, luxrays probably the first pokemon i will replace. thought about gengar, but its other stats than sp atk and speed made me afraid. My Plan is to have a good variety of types who can counter others, and a balance between sp and normal attack. Also, one quick mon. sooo... long story short: Please feel free to make constructive comments about which pokemon i should replace with whom, and of course replacing an attack with another maybe Have a nice Day! Edit: I put the abilities into the pokemon description. Im Currently at Iolia Valley. First Playthrough. Edited November 18, 2015 by Solor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Luxray is probably most replaceable mon at the moment, the speed is rather subpar and there are better electric types like Electivire and Eelektross, with each having their niche such as former with more versatile movepools and coverage if you are able to breed ice punch, fire punch, cross chop into it and later with levitate that renders it basically no weakness with only poor speed as its only flaw, that is unless you run guts toxic orb luxray, which has impeccable boosted attack. In addition to your stats and nature, i would like to also learn about your mons abilities in order to gain a better insight. Arcanine would have a better movepool if you had held off the evolution from growlithe since it learns many useful moves like outrage and crunch in later levels, the elemental fangs are too weak without ability strong jaw which arcanine doesnt have, as better user of elemental fangs are mons like strong jaw tyrantrum. Edited November 17, 2015 by TimTim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'd agree that Luxray is the weakest link on your team. I'd consider replacing it with a different electric type. Some I'd consider that weren't mentioned above include dedenne Ampharos and Galvantula. I've heard the former is one of the best electric types in Reborn at the moment with great bulk and nice offence (and the possibility of a future mega). Galvantula is really frail but has sticky web and great special attack. Nice team though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 hmm well i have to agree with the rest on luxray being the weakest link in the team. Also sceptile can be replaced if you want there are better grass types. Well here is what i would do to make your current team better without replacing anyone: Metagross Ability:Clear body Nature:Adamant(+Atk,-SpAtk) Hammer Arm Gyro ball/Bulldoze( well you can get gyro ball TM right now in reborn so you will just have to find it this thread should help) Meteor Mash Zen Headbutt Sceptile(Special attack)(you will need to breed a new treeko cause treeko gets energy ball at lvl 37) Ability:Unburden Nature:Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk) Energy Ball Giga drain Dragon Breath(egg move breed with Altaria) Leech seed(egg move breed with turtwig/bulbasaur or use this chain hoppip(leech seed)>Tropius/shover>treeko) Sceptile(physical atk) Ability: Unburden Nature:Adamant(+Atk,-SpAtk) Leaf Blade Night Slash/crunch(crunch if want to breed/night slash just use a heart scale) Screech Acrobatics/X-Scissors Swampert Ability:torrent Nature:Adamant(+Atk,-SpAtk) Earthquake Waterfall Hammer Arm/Brick Break Rock Slide Luxray Ability:Guts/Rivalry/Intimidate Nature:Jolly(+speed,-SpAtk) Crunch Thunder Fang Wild Charge Ice fang(egg move) Arcanine Ability: Justified Nature: Adamant(+Atk,-SpAtk) Extreme Speed Flare Blitz Thunder Fang Close Combat Noivern Ability:Infiltrator Nature: Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk) Boomburst Dragon Pulse Air Slash/Hurricane Flamethrower Well if you want to replace luxray here is a list of electric type you can consider using Special Attack Electric type Heliolisk Ability:Solar power Thunderbolt/Thunder Surf Dark pulse Grass knot/Round Ampharos Ability:static/plus Thunder/discharge Signal Beam Dragon pulse Power Gem Raichu Ability: Lightning Rod/Static Thunderbolt Nasty Plot Grass Knot Thunder/discharge Magnezone Ability:Analytic/Sturdy Discharge Flash cannon Tri-Attack Mirror Coat Lanturn Ability:Volt absorb Discharge Signal Beam Icy wind Surf Galvantula Ability:Swarm Bug buzz Signal Beam Discharge Sticky web Eelektross Ability: levitate Flamethrower Grass knot Discharge Thunderbolt Manectric Ability:Lighting Rod/Static Flamethrower Discharge Uproar/round/hidden power(uproar is an egg move) Thunder Physical Attack Electric type Electivire Ability: Motor Drive Ice punch(egg move) Thunder punch Low kick/brick break Bulldoze/Screech Zebstrika Ability:Motor Drive/Sap sipper/ lightning Rod Flame Charge Wild Charge Thrash Spark Eelektross Ability: Levitate Wild Charge Crunch Crush claw Brick Break Also if you want to replace sceptile with a better grass type here is a list of grass types you can consider using: Special Attack grass types Lilligant Ability:Chlorophyll Quiver dance Leech seed Energy ball Nature Power Abomasnow Ability:Snow Warning Blizzard Water Pulse Grass knot Icy wind/shadow ball( shadow ball if you got it from shade in earlier episodes) Whimsicott Ability: Prankster Nature:Timid(+Speed,-Atk) Tailwind/Moonblast( go tailwind if you want it to be a full support ) Fake Tears(egg move) Encore(egg move) Worry Seed/Energy Ball( Go worry seed if you want it to be full support) Roserade Ability:Natural Cure Venoshock Toxic Spikes/Toxic Giga Drain Petal Dance/Shadow ball( shadow ball if u got it from shade in earlier episode) Ludicolo Ability:Rain Dish/Swift swim Energy Ball Surf Icy wind Grass knot/Water pulse/Nature power/Hydro Pump/Rain dance( depends on what you want) Exeggutor Ability:Chlorophyll/Harvest Skill Swap/Trick room/Reflect/Sunny day Leaf Storm Psyshock Solarbeam/Uproar Physical attack Grass types Trevenant Ability:Harvest/Natural Cure Leech seed Horn leach Wood Hammer Shadow Claw/Phantom Force Chesnaught Ability:Bulletproof Bulk up Hammer Arm Wood Hammer Pain Split/Leech seed Leavanny Ability:Chlorophyll Leaf Blade Swords Dance/fell Stinger Sticky Web/Protect X-Scissors Leafeon Ability:Chlorophyll Leaf Blade Swords Dance Baton Pass/Synthesis Facade/Last Resort Abomasnow Ability:Snow Warning Ice Punch(use heart scale) Wood hammer Seed Bomb(egg move) Avalanche(egg move) Torterra Ability:Shell Armor Earthquake Wood Hammer Curse/leech seed Crunch Cacturne Ability: Water Absorb Seed Bomb/Needle Am(seed bomb is an egg move) Sucker Punch Destiny Bond Brick Break well that all i think hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solor Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thank you all I consider to replace sceptile with a better grass type you mentioned. the thing with the electric type is, i would like to replace it with another type of pokemon with a good atk stat. something that more "balances" my team than electric. suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Then swap Luxray for Scrafty. It gives you some needed Dark coverage, and STAB Fighting moves. You can make every single one of Scrafty's ability work on your team, and you can transform it into a badass sweeper once the fairies are gone by breeding Dragon Dance and using Moxie. I'd suggest either Lucario or Bisharp too, but those two will add to Ground weakness you have right now. So, maybe Scrafty would work. I have no suggestions for Grass types, but if you decide on Scrafty, it would be in your best interest to use a Special Grass type, since Physical Attacks will be the main attacks you'll have. And if everything fails, remember that Bibarel is always there. With it's OP moody~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maybe Mienshao would be a good fit it hits like a truck with HJK+Reckless. hmm other physical attackers maybe medicham since it has Elemental punches+ good physical attack psychic and fighting moves and pure power makes it hit hard but the problem with medicham is its speed is not that great. Scrafty is a safe choice since it is kinda tanky and has the elemental punches+DD but its speed is just low. If you want a sweeper i would go for mienshao. if you want a tanky set up sweeper go for Scrafty and if u just wanna do dmg go for medicham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellowSlinky Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 FYI for future teambuilding there is a really useful site that highlights your offensive/defensive team coverage. I had some time so I wrote up the 5 'mon you want to keep and moves here: http://www.teammagma.net/teambuilder/?376|254|260|59|715 The "best" offensive STAB options you are missing (widest offensive coverage options) are fighting, rock, and ice. You have plenty of non-stab fighting attacks so I'd say you actually want to look for rock/ice especially because they both check flying types which is what your Luxray gave you previously. Looking on the defensive side you have no resistances to dark or ghost - so I feel like Weavile would be a really good fit for your team once you get it You can catch it in Ametrine Mountain once you get Waterfall which is still unfortunately quite a bit away If you are looking for something right now that you could start using right now here are some other suggestions: - Mamoswine (very bulky and has access to ice shard for priority although doubles up on ground types) - Aerodactyl (extremely fast rock type which is rare, however doubles you up on flying types) - Tyrantrum (two strong abilities and great attacking moves, doubles you up on dragon types) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solor Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) And again i have to thank you very much guys I already replaced my sceptile with .. Roserade (+sp atk. -atk) Petal Dance (will be replaced as soon as i get a good TM), Toxic Spikes, Venoshock, Giga Drain (thx Luna ) i gave it speed ev and a bit hp/def for its defensive play. luxray will be replaced soon, but i didn't made a choice right now. I want to think about your suggestions and check some things. im gonna write here what i've done when im finished. ps: thx MellowSlinky for the website. nice1 Edited November 19, 2015 by Solor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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