Lord Chespin Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So, I've decided to dabble in Mix-and-Mega, with the hopes of making a team that takes some not-so-viable Pokemon and making them more viable. This is my first time making a team of them, so here's hoping it holds up. So, without further ado... THE AMALGAMATES And here they are in more detail: USS Moider (Lapras) (F) @ Aggronite Ability: Water Absorb Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Waterfall - Curse - Rest - Sleep Talk Eggshells (Blissey) @ Slowbronite Ability: Natural Cure Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Modest Nature - Calm Mind - Hyper Voice - Dazzling Gleam - Soft-Boiled Yellow Beetle (Electivire) (M) @ Pinsirite Ability: Motor Drive EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Cross Chop - Wild Charge - Earthquake - Double-Edge SC1-Z0R (Klinklang) @ Scizorite Ability: Clear Body Shiny: Yes EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe Adamant Nature - Gear Grind - Shift Gear - Return - Substitute Vesuvius (Nidoqueen) @ Cameruptite Ability: Poison Point Shiny: Yes EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD Modest Nature - Earth Power - Sludge Wave - Ice Beam - Stealth Rock BFG F-Class (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Heracronite Ability: Iron Barbs Shiny: Yes EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Bullet Seed - Pin Missile - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed So, what do you guys think? Let me know what I can do to improve the squad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 To judge those teams better, take a look at this Absolite:Atk +20, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +40, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 2 kgGardevoirite:Atk +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain PixilateAltarianite:Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, gain secondary Fairy typing and Pixilate.Scizorite:Atk +20, Def +40, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Technician, increase weight by 7 kgAbomasite:+40 Atk, +30 Def, +40 Sp. Atk, +20 Sp. Def, -30 Speed, gain Snow Warning, increase weight by 49.5 kgHoundoominite:Def +40, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Solar Power, increase weight by 14.5 kgAggronite:Atk +30, Def +50, Sp. Def +20, lose secondary typing, gain Filter, increase weight by 35 kgAerodactylite:Attack +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain Tough Claws, increase weight by 20 kgAlakazite:Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +30, gain TraceAmpharosite:+20 Atk, +20 Def, +50 Sp. Atk, +20 Sp. Def, -10 Speed, gain Dragon secondary type and Mold BreakerAudinite:+40 Def, +20 Sp. Atk, +40 Sp. Def, gain secondary Fairy typing and Healer, increase weight by 1 kgBanettite:Atk +50, Def +10, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Prankster, increase weight by .5 kgBeedrillite (Beedrill Line Only):Atk +60, Sp. Atk -30, Speed +70, gain AdaptabilityBlastoisinite:Atk +20, Def +20, Sp. Atk +50, Sp. Def +10, gain Mega Launcher, increase weight by 15.6 kgBlazikenite (RESTRICTED):Atk +40, Def +10, Sp Atk +20, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Speed BoostCameruptite:Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +30, Speed -20, gain Sheer Force, increase weight by 100.5 kgCharizardite X:Atk +46, Def +33, Sp. Atk +21, gain secondary Dragon typing and Tough Claws, increase weight by 20 kgCharizardite Y:Atk +20, Sp. Atk +50, Sp. Def +30, gain Drought, increase weight by 10 kgDiancite:Atk +60, Def -40, Sp. Atk +60, Sp. Def -40, Speed +60, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 19 kgGalladite:Atk +40, Def +30, Speed +30, gain Inner Focus, increase weight by 4.4 kgGlalitite:Atk +40, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +20, gain Refrigerate, increase weight by 93.7 kgGyaradosite:Atk +30, Def +30, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +30, gain secondary Dark typing and Mold Breaker, increase weight by 70 kgHeracronite:Atk +60, Def +40, Sp. Def +10, Speed -10, gain Skill Link, increase weight by 8.5 kgLatiasite:Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +20, gain Levitate, increase weight by 12 kgLatiosite:Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +10, gain Levitate, increase weight by 10 kgLopunnite:Atk +60, Def +10, Speed +30, gain secondary Fighting typing and Scrappy, decrease weight by 5 kgMawilite (RESTRICTED):Atk +20, Def +40, Sp. Def + 40, gain Huge Power, increase weight by 12 kgManectite:Def +20, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +20, Speed +30, gain Intimidate, increase weight by 3.8 kgMetagrossite:Atk +10, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +40, gain Tough Claws, increase weight by 392.9 kgMewtwonite X (SUSPECT):Atk +80, Def +10, Sp. Def +10, gain secondary Fighting typing and Steadfast, increase weight by 5 kgMewtwonite Y:Atk +40, Def -20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +30, Speed +10, gain Insomnia, decrease weight by 89 kgPidgeotite:Def +5, Sp. Atk +65, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain No Guard, increase weight by 11 kgPinsirite:Atk +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain secondary Flying type and Aerilate, increase weight by 4 kgSablenite:Atk +10, Def +50, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +50, Speed -30, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 150 kgSalamencite:Atk +10, Def +50, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Aerilate, increase weight by 10 kgSceptilite:Atk +25, Def +10, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +25, gain secondary Dragon typing and Lightning Rod, increase weight by 3 kgSharpedonite:Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +15, Sp. Def +25, Speed +10, gain Strong Jaw, increase weight by 41.5 kgSlowbronite:Def +70, Sp. Atk +30, gain Shell Armor, increase weight by 31.5 kgSteelixite:Atk +40, Def +30, Sp. Def +30, gain Sand Force, increase weight by 340 kgSwampertite:Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Swift Swim, increase weight by 20.1 kgTyranitarite:Atk +30, Def +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Sand Stream, increase weight by 53 kgVenusaurite:Atk +18, Def +40, Sp. Atk +22, Sp. Def +20, gain Thick Fat, increase weight by 55.5 kgLucarionite:Atk +35, Def +18, Sp. Atk +25, Speed +22, gain Adaptability, increase weight by 3.5 kgGarchompite:Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +10, Speed -10, gain Sand ForceGengarite (RESTRICTED):Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain Shadow TagKangaskhanite (Kangaskhan Only):Atk +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Parental BondMedichamite (RESTRICTED):Atk +40, Def +10, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Pure PowerDragon Ascent: Atk +30, Def +10, SpA +30, SpD +10, Spe +20, gain Delta Stream, increase weight by 185.5 kg, overridden by Mega Stone/OrbBlue Orb: Atk +50, SpA +30, SpD +20, gain Primordial Sea, increase weight by 78 kg, activates immediately on switch-inRed Orb: Atk +30, Def +20, SpA +50, gain secondary Fire typing and Desolate Land, increase weight by 49.7 kg, activates immediately on switch-in I do not play this tier but my thoughts on your team are: 1) why not use Lopunnite on Electivire and STAB boost that Cross Chop? 2) Blissey is still hindered by Toxic. Is Sableyenite not better on it? That HP must not pose a problem even without the huge boost from Slowbronite 3) I would try Venusaurite on Klinklang to see how it fares with the fire and ice spam in this MnM 4) I like that Ferrothorn but better give it blue orb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My main issue with this team is that Lopunnite Lando-T (or Lopunnite anything, really) utterly destroys it. To my count, you have 4 Fighting weaknesses and two resistances which, however, are weak to EQ and Stone Edge, moves that Lando-T (and most other Lopunnite users) carry as coverage. Altarianite Entei is also very problematic, as you have no Fire resistances and the burn chance of Sacred Fire can prove lethal. Finally, status spread from stallbreakers like Mew can be very problematic. My suggestions to solve these issues: 1) Use Blissey as a cleric with Sablenite 2) Use Ferrothorn as a physical wall with Blue Orb (thus removing the Fire weakness, and turning it into a decent check for Entei) 3) Replace Lapras with... Anything else, really. Anything non-Steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chespin Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) My main issue with this team is that Lopunnite Lando-T (or Lopunnite anything, really) utterly destroys it. To my count, you have 4 Fighting weaknesses and two resistances which, however, are weak to EQ and Stone Edge, moves that Lando-T (and most other Lopunnite users) carry as coverage. Altarianite Entei is also very problematic, as you have no Fire resistances and the burn chance of Sacred Fire can prove lethal. Finally, status spread from stallbreakers like Mew can be very problematic. My suggestions to solve these issues: 1) Use Blissey as a cleric with Sablenite 2) Use Ferrothorn as a physical wall with Blue Orb (thus removing the Fire weakness, and turning it into a decent check for Entei) 3) Replace Lapras with... Anything else, really. Anything non-Steel. Okay. The Lapras was kind of the main reason I started this set, though. I don't think it has a fighting weakness, though, because it loses its secondary typing and becomes a pure water-type thanks to Aggronite. Is there any way I could improve it? To judge those teams better, take a look at this Absolite: Atk +20, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +40, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 2 kg Gardevoirite: Atk +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain Pixilate Altarianite: Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, gain secondary Fairy typing and Pixilate. Scizorite: Atk +20, Def +40, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Technician, increase weight by 7 kg Abomasite: +40 Atk, +30 Def, +40 Sp. Atk, +20 Sp. Def, -30 Speed, gain Snow Warning, increase weight by 49.5 kg Houndoominite: Def +40, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Solar Power, increase weight by 14.5 kg Aggronite: Atk +30, Def +50, Sp. Def +20, lose secondary typing, gain Filter, increase weight by 35 kg Aerodactylite: Attack +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain Tough Claws, increase weight by 20 kg Alakazite: Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +30, gain Trace Ampharosite: +20 Atk, +20 Def, +50 Sp. Atk, +20 Sp. Def, -10 Speed, gain Dragon secondary type and Mold Breaker Audinite: +40 Def, +20 Sp. Atk, +40 Sp. Def, gain secondary Fairy typing and Healer, increase weight by 1 kg Banettite: Atk +50, Def +10, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Prankster, increase weight by .5 kg Beedrillite (Beedrill Line Only): Atk +60, Sp. Atk -30, Speed +70, gain Adaptability Blastoisinite: Atk +20, Def +20, Sp. Atk +50, Sp. Def +10, gain Mega Launcher, increase weight by 15.6 kg Blazikenite (RESTRICTED): Atk +40, Def +10, Sp Atk +20, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Speed Boost Cameruptite: Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +30, Speed -20, gain Sheer Force, increase weight by 100.5 kg Charizardite X: Atk +46, Def +33, Sp. Atk +21, gain secondary Dragon typing and Tough Claws, increase weight by 20 kg Charizardite Y: Atk +20, Sp. Atk +50, Sp. Def +30, gain Drought, increase weight by 10 kg Diancite: Atk +60, Def -40, Sp. Atk +60, Sp. Def -40, Speed +60, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 19 kg Galladite: Atk +40, Def +30, Speed +30, gain Inner Focus, increase weight by 4.4 kg Glalitite: Atk +40, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +20, gain Refrigerate, increase weight by 93.7 kg Gyaradosite: Atk +30, Def +30, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +30, gain secondary Dark typing and Mold Breaker, increase weight by 70 kg Heracronite: Atk +60, Def +40, Sp. Def +10, Speed -10, gain Skill Link, increase weight by 8.5 kg Latiasite: Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +20, gain Levitate, increase weight by 12 kg Latiosite: Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +10, gain Levitate, increase weight by 10 kg Lopunnite: Atk +60, Def +10, Speed +30, gain secondary Fighting typing and Scrappy, decrease weight by 5 kg Mawilite (RESTRICTED): Atk +20, Def +40, Sp. Def + 40, gain Huge Power, increase weight by 12 kg Manectite: Def +20, Sp. Atk +30, Sp. Def +20, Speed +30, gain Intimidate, increase weight by 3.8 kg Metagrossite: Atk +10, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +40, gain Tough Claws, increase weight by 392.9 kg Mewtwonite X (SUSPECT): Atk +80, Def +10, Sp. Def +10, gain secondary Fighting typing and Steadfast, increase weight by 5 kg Mewtwonite Y: Atk +40, Def -20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +30, Speed +10, gain Insomnia, decrease weight by 89 kg Pidgeotite: Def +5, Sp. Atk +65, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain No Guard, increase weight by 11 kg Pinsirite: Atk +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain secondary Flying type and Aerilate, increase weight by 4 kg Sablenite: Atk +10, Def +50, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +50, Speed -30, gain Magic Bounce, increase weight by 150 kg Salamencite: Atk +10, Def +50, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Aerilate, increase weight by 10 kg Sceptilite: Atk +25, Def +10, Sp. Atk +40, Speed +25, gain secondary Dragon typing and Lightning Rod, increase weight by 3 kg Sharpedonite: Atk +20, Def +30, Sp. Atk +15, Sp. Def +25, Speed +10, gain Strong Jaw, increase weight by 41.5 kg Slowbronite: Def +70, Sp. Atk +30, gain Shell Armor, increase weight by 31.5 kg Steelixite: Atk +40, Def +30, Sp. Def +30, gain Sand Force, increase weight by 340 kg Swampertite: Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +10, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Swift Swim, increase weight by 20.1 kg Tyranitarite: Atk +30, Def +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Sand Stream, increase weight by 53 kg Venusaurite: Atk +18, Def +40, Sp. Atk +22, Sp. Def +20, gain Thick Fat, increase weight by 55.5 kg Lucarionite: Atk +35, Def +18, Sp. Atk +25, Speed +22, gain Adaptability, increase weight by 3.5 kg Garchompite: Atk +40, Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +10, Speed -10, gain Sand Force Gengarite (RESTRICTED): Def +20, Sp. Atk +40, Sp. Def +20, Speed +20, gain Shadow Tag Kangaskhanite (Kangaskhan Only): Atk +30, Def +20, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +20, Speed +10, gain Parental Bond Medichamite (RESTRICTED): Atk +40, Def +10, Sp. Atk +20, Sp. Def +10, Speed +20, gain Pure Power Dragon Ascent: Atk +30, Def +10, SpA +30, SpD +10, Spe +20, gain Delta Stream, increase weight by 185.5 kg, overridden by Mega Stone/Orb Blue Orb: Atk +50, SpA +30, SpD +20, gain Primordial Sea, increase weight by 78 kg, activates immediately on switch-in Red Orb: Atk +30, Def +20, SpA +50, gain secondary Fire typing and Desolate Land, increase weight by 49.7 kg, activates immediately on switch-in I do not play this tier but my thoughts on your team are: 1) why not use Lopunnite on Electivire and STAB boost that Cross Chop? 2) Blissey is still hindered by Toxic. Is Sableyenite not better on it? That HP must not pose a problem even without the huge boost from Slowbronite 3) I would try Venusaurite on Klinklang to see how it fares with the fire and ice spam in this MnM 4) I like that Ferrothorn 1) Good point. I'll try that. 2) Seems like a better idea, I'll try that. 3) I mainly used Scizorite because it gives Gear Grind a massive boost, turning it into a 150-BP move with no drawbacks. I'll have to see how it fares, though. 4) Thanks! Edited February 25, 2016 by Lord Chespin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't think it has a fighting weakness, though, because it loses its secondary typing and becomes a pure water-type thanks to Aggronite. Uh... To my knowledge, Aggronite gives you a Steel typing. Meaning that, if you are dual type Steel/something it makes you pure Steel, but if you are of some other type it adds Steel to your typing. So an Aggronite Lapras would become Water/Steel (or, God forbid, Ice/Steel, depending on which between Ice and Water is Lapras' primary type)... EDIT: well what do you know, apparently I was wrong. So nevermind, Lapras can stay. But I stand by my point on the other two changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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