Kagamine Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 We all know that the list of pokemon is ever-expanding like space (well, not in the same way)but some pokemon we just love, but are not battle material, and a new ability or different ability could change that Tell me what pokemon and what ability Technician Floatzel Reckless/Rock Head Arcanine Speed boost/Adaptability/Own tempo Flygon Guts Lucario Huge power Zebstrika Adaptability/Serence grace Rapidash Wonder guard Metapod (I'm just putting this here for fun, could be viable since bug types have a lot of weaknesses) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbound Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Doesn't this exist somewhere else? If not, then my bad. Here, have the best suggestion of all time: LEVITATE MAGNEZONE!!! Goddamn GF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagamine Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 I tried searching for a thread like this, but nothing came up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorReborn Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Honestly, Floatzel's Swift Swim is fine. It mostly just needs TMs to work and then a little team support to make something like a low-tier rainteam, with Ludicolo, Phione, and the like. Also Arcanine has multiple nice abilities in Flash Fire and Intimidate, so it's fine. Speed Boost would be nice for Flygon. It could work well with a Band/Specs/LO set. Aura Break would make some sense for Lucario, despite it being the signature ability of Zygarde. The problem with Zepstrika is more so the stats and strange movepool than anything else. It has two two different potential immunities from two different abilities, so that's nice. Rapidash would appreciate Reckless to boost Flare Blitz and Wild Charge in a way similar to Emboar, but faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbound Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 PH, all right then. LEVITATE MAGNEZONE. It makes no sense whatsoever that it doesn't already have it; I'll murderize GF if they don't give Mega Magnezone Levitate (I mentioned Mega Magnezone on the make your meha thread, that might've got me confused) Also, Tinted Lens Volcarona, ohhh yesss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank_Nghiem Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I would like to give Cradily Harvest, I don't personally feel any of its current abilities are superb for how it is used. As a generally special defense tank having Harvest would boost its survivability. Storm drain gives it special attack that it can never fully utilize, and Suction Cup is like throwing them out there without retreat or back up. Also maybe simple Quagsire am I the only one who thinks this should have been an already given ability? He looks like he's a chill simple living guy that I just assumed he had this until I picked one up, and realized he didn't. Also I do believe tinted lens Volcarona would be glorious but terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbound Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Terrifying about sums it up. BURN EVERYTHING! Also, Cradily's niche is Storm Drain IMO, it was big on sand teams in DPPt (still is used in mono sand sometimes) because it could almost singlehandedly deal with the water types that gave sand trouble. With the Spdef boost from sand and Storm Drain, spamming surf would be dangerous against it, and even most non-stab Ice Beams could be tanked and Giga Drained/Recovered off. It could use its qualities to Toxic stall, set up SR or be a legitimate Curse threat. Harvest on a creature that is not actually a plant is kinda iffy IMO. Only tree Pokemon get it (Exeggutor, trevenant and tropius) and Cradily's a sea lily, an animal, not a plant (though it still has a gras typing so EH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Levitate chandelure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Luffy Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Give Luxray Strong Jaw, since it's a physical attacker and can actually learn several bite moves, but without the boost from Strong Jaw thunder fang sucks, you're better of using spark. Or you know, actually do something to go with it's pokedex entry that states that it has xray vision. Protean Mew would be awesome too, and would actually make a lot of sense. Mew can already learn any TM/HM and can transform so it wouldn't be that strange that it could change it's typing to match the moves it uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted April 13, 2016 Global Mods Share Posted April 13, 2016 Cacnea is a cactus. Why doesn't it get Rough Skin? I used to think Frost Rotom should get Refrigerate since it's a refrigerator, but apparently the ability has a different meaning name in Japanese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessi Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 sap sipper swampert tough claws archeops sheer force/huge power slaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Everything that floats / flies / has wings = Levitate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samalet Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Wonder Guard Mega Sableye, because a man can dream. A more serious proposition: Rotom-Fan with Prankster instead of Levitate, might actually make it viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 This topic quickly turned into "Make a pokemon as broken as you can", like the Sap Sipper Swampert I saw above, which IMO makes no freaking sense. If we were to give several pokemon abilities that fit more thematically, we need to prepare ourselves for possible downgrading. Giving Simple to Quagsire may reflect more on its personality as a pokemon, but makes it a lot worse, compared to Unaware that it currently has. Similarly, Luxray will never use Spark as long as there's Wild Charge. It's ok to give Reckless, but Guts is fine too. Just slap a Toxic Orb on it and call it a day. My suggestions would be: - Tough Claws Toxicroak - Adaptability Leavanny - Sand Force Golem - Trace Golduck - Gooey Shuckle - Thick Fat Gogoat - Strong Jaw Raticate - Gale Wings Rotom-Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 ok I haven't commented on others' suggestions so here are just my opinions: Reveal hidden contents On 4/13/2016 at 2:53 PM, Kagamine said: Technician Floatzel Reckless/Rock Head Arcanine Speed boost/Adaptability/Own tempo Flygon Guts Lucario Huge power Zebstrika Adaptability/Serence grace Rapidash Wonder guard Metapod (I'm just putting this here for fun, could be viable since bug types have a lot of weaknesses) Floatzel would be fairly cool if it got Technician boosted Aqua Jet, Hidden Power, Pursuit, and Power-Up Punch... I think it would be a better Ability than the ones it currently has, as it's already extremely fast and while a burn immunity is nice, Technician is better. Reckless would make more sense over Rock Head on Arcanine, and it no longer having recoil from Flare Blitz would help a bit, but I'd probably use Flash Fire / Intimidate, yeah. Speed Boost or Adaptability Flygon would be extremely scary, not that I'm complaining or anything. Own Tempo could be interesting, since it's the only Pokemon with Own Tempo and Outrage besides Smeargle. Lucario's other three Abilities kinda suck already so this would be pretty good on it, as it no longer worries about burns if it's physical. Although Aura Break does kinda make more sense, and it would help it against Xerneas and Yveltal prior to Mega Evolving in Ubers. Zebstrika already has a high Attack stat, giving it Huge Power would make it as strong as Mega Medicham owo But it doesn't really have the greatest physical moves, rip. Both of those are much better than Run Away and maybe even Flame Body, although Adaptability would be a lot scarier, as its Flare Blitzs would be a lot stronger, but I guess it's PU so it kinda needs those. >Wonder Guard On 4/13/2016 at 2:57 PM, Viridescent said: LEVITATE MAGNEZONE!!! Goddamn GF... same On 4/13/2016 at 3:23 PM, Viridescent said: Also, Tinted Lens Volcarona, ohhh yesss! o_o On 4/13/2016 at 4:07 PM, Hank_Nghiem said: I would like to give Cradily Harvest, I don't personally feel any of its current abilities are superb for how it is used. As a generally special defense tank having Harvest would boost its survivability. Storm drain gives it special attack that it can never fully utilize, and Suction Cup is like throwing them out there without retreat or back up. Also maybe simple Quagsire am I the only one who thinks this should have been an already given ability? He looks like he's a chill simple living guy that I just assumed he had this until I picked one up, and realized he didn't. Also I do believe tinted lens Volcarona would be glorious but terrifying. Storm Drain is pretty good, tbh, but Harvest > Suction Cup, definitely. That could become a really good one, since it gets Amnesia, Curse, and Stockpile (is that affected by Simple?) On 4/13/2016 at 4:53 PM, Masquerain said: Levitate chandelure... My post before agrees~ On 4/13/2016 at 4:57 PM, Darth Luffy said: Give Luxray Strong Jaw, since it's a physical attacker and can actually learn several bite moves, but without the boost from Strong Jaw thunder fang sucks, you're better of using spark. Or you know, actually do something to go with it's pokedex entry that states that it has xray vision. Protean Mew would be awesome too, and would actually make a lot of sense. Mew can already learn any TM/HM and can transform so it wouldn't be that strange that it could change it's typing to match the moves it uses. It's better than Rivalry, for sure. With the Elemental Fangs + Crunch, Strong Jaw's not a bad choice. I agree with Protean Mew, although idk how it would work out in competitive battling. It also should get Levitate imo On 4/13/2016 at 5:06 PM, Ice Cream Sand Witch said: Cacnea is a cactus. Why doesn't it get Rough Skin? I used to think Frost Rotom should get Refrigerate since it's a refrigerator, but apparently the ability has a different meaning name in Japanese. Maybe Cacnea line + Maractus could have an ability that acts the same as Rough Skin, but with a different name? I don't think Rough Skin or Iron Barbs really fit them. "Freeze Skin" ...that's kinda strange... On 4/13/2016 at 5:44 PM, Bessi said: sap sipper swampert tough claws archeops sheer force/huge power slaking Much better than Damp; it would definitely be a great Ability on it since it removes one of its biggest weaknesses and gets a boost from it. But it isn't very flavorful,,, ban to ubers ban to ubers 2 On 4/13/2016 at 9:11 PM, Sohn der Höhe said: Wonder Guard Mega Sableye, because a man can dream. A more serious proposition: Rotom-Fan with Prankster instead of Levitate, might actually make it viable. give everything moonblast to counter mega sableye That's actually kinda interesting! Motor Drive is the ability most people would give it since Rotom = Motor, but I never thought about Prankster Rotom, with priority WoW, T-Wave, Subs, Pain Split, etc. edit: On 4/13/2016 at 9:21 PM, NickCrash said: My suggestions would be: - Tough Claws Toxicroak - Adaptability Leavanny - Sand Force Golem - Trace Golduck - Gooey Shuckle - Thick Fat Gogoat - Strong Jaw Raticate - Gale Wings Rotom-Fan agree with all of these tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laggless01 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Maybe Super Luck Meowth/Persian might be nice, and it would fit its cultural origin. Also Slash/Night Slash spam...Iron Fist Lucario (because, y'know, it's a Steel/Fighting type...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Golurk with Huge Power. A man can dream can't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargerth Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Gooey Muk Regigigas with, I dunno, Klutz? Slow Start is one of the worst ideas ever, but I don't wanna go with something that would make Regigigas broken like Huge Power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I forgot the most important one: Grumpig with Simple + tail glow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Sniper Persian seems interesting too, but Super Luck is also pretty cool. ^.^ Sniper Persian can probably be some sort of CritDra variant, that is if it can learn Focus Energy. O_OBut Slash already has high-crit chance, along with a lot of moves, so probably giving it a Scope Lens will be enough. ^.^Not sure though since IDK how crit calculation works. o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbound Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 This cannot be overstated: LEVITATE MAGNEZONE Right, now for the rest of my suggestions: 1. Drizzle on something other than a dumb froge. Every single weather ability has multiple non-Ubers starters, except rain. Give Drizzle Mega Slowking, for one, because every other weather also has a mega Pokemon capable of setting it. 2. Sand Rush Mega Garchomp. I know this is absurdly broken, but Garchomp losing speed, its most important attribute, is as dumb as Magnezone floating but not levitating. And it's not like GF didn't want to make a broken Pseudo Legendary Mega in Salamence or anything. Megachomp would be abusable only in Sand, and granted that he can wreck everything with that bulk and that power of he is also the fastest abuser of Sand Rush, but that's the point, goddamit it! Aaargh, GF why you so dumb! 3. Why doesn't Goodra get Poison Heal or Regenerator? Imagine how good(ra) that would be! It is based off a nudibranch, a sea slug that eats poisonous anemones and itself becomes poisonous by absorbing those toxins. PERFECT logic for Poison Heal! Goodra's only issue is that it can't heal up reliably. Rwgenerator is also suitable on a slug. And it also looks the type, since it gets a Poison and Water coverage. GF WHY ARE YOU MAKING MONS BAD!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbound Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Kingdra has Swift Swim to abuse the rain; setting its own rain takes away its main role. Swift Swimmers getting Drizzle is kinda a cruel joke, powering them and depowering them at the same time. They're better off using Rain Dance or relying on a train seeing teammate. Edited April 14, 2016 by Viridescent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Give Glaceon any other ability that doesn't depend on Hail please :[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 On 4/14/2016 at 9:48 AM, Xiri said: Give Glaceon any other ability that doesn't depend on Hail please :[ Snow Warning maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 On 4/14/2016 at 9:48 AM, Xiri said: Give Glaceon any other ability that doesn't depend on Hail please :[ What about Solar Power? Or Dry Skin? Or Sand Rush? Or Delta Stream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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