Moves Pokemon Should Get

[Fumble]

I don't think I saw this on the Directory, and it doesn't look like there's been a thread like this recently, so as the title says, what moves should Pokemon get logically that they don't already? For example...

+Milk and Oreon: ...
+Milk and Oreon: !learn Seismitoad, Ice Beam
In Gen 6, Seismitoad can't learn Ice Beam
+Milk and Oreon: what

Bazaro: or waterfall

Bazaro: lol

Bazaro: Ice Punch but no Ice Beam, Surf but no Waterfall

like seriously why gamefreak.

[Ice Cream Sand Witch]

Goodra should get Surf since it can learn Muddy Water. Muddy Water is a brown, less accurate Surf.

[ShadowStar]

In my dreams, Ampharos will get Draco Meteor.

It'd be pretty cool if Ludicolo and Liligant got more of the Dance Moves. Fiery Dance would be fun.

Also, Dedenne needs Moonblast.

[YinYang9705]

DracoMeteor would be awesome for Sceptile, if only for it's Mega Evolution.

[Fumble]

Oh right...

Zangoose can't learn Cut, even though it learns a whole bunch of slashing moves.

Yanmega doesn't learn Fly, even though its Pokedex entry saying it actually says it can.

Hitmonchan doesn't learn Dizzy or Shadow Punch, and Machamp can't learn Comet, Dizzy, Drain, Mach, or Shadow Punch...

[TimTim]

Gothitelle should get focus blast, like seriously it is the least versatile psychic type, Alakazam and Reuniclus get focus blast, even non psychic non fighting Mawile get focus blast(albeit no use of it due to being physical mon), why not Gothitelle?

[Ironbound]

You know what, here, let me tell you:

Garchomp: Learn Extreme Speed and Fly. Your dex entries mention how fast you can fly, the anime shows you flying but nope. No Fly, and only form of priority is dumb ol' Quick Attack.

Yanmega: Learn Fly goddamit you're a giant dragonfly whose dex mentions you carrying people with ease!

It's a shame that the only bug types that can learn Fly are Volcarona and Genesect, and NEITHER of them is a Flyig type. So not one of the myriad bug/flying types, even the huge ones like Yanmega, can apparently FLY!?

Ampharos: Learn Tail Glow. Imagine the horror of Tail Glow Mega Ampharos! With that 165 base special attack! It makes sense too, since it's literally lighting up its tail in that lighthouse to act as a beacon, and while it gets Flash, Tail Glow is what it should get.

[Guest]

I think the reason that Amphy doesn't get Tail Glow is because of its Japanese name, which I think was something related to fireflies..?
But then again, that doesn't give a reason as to why Manaphy gets it. o_o

That said, I'll definitely post here when I gain access to my files. T_T
But on the top of my head, Bellossom should get access to almost all the dance moves, or at least ones that'll help it.

[Ironbound]

Yeah, it's 'firefly light' or something. It makes sense for Volbeat, as it was originally its signature move.

But manaphy is based off of a kind of sea slug that floats along ocean currents. Neither the actual animal (called a 'sea angel slug') not manaphy itself are remotely related to fireflies and in fact do not even have tails.

Ampharos makes huge sense. It's just GF being dumb as usual.

Edited April 17, 2016 by Viridescent

[Phi-Bi]

Unfezant should get Brave Bird even Zubat which is not a bird can learn it.

Also the Tao Trio should learn Earthquake. I mean why a huge dragon can't learn it while the pink blobs can, doesn't make any sense.

[Xiri]

Cloyster and Walrein should get Scald.

[pyrromanis]

Typhlosion demands from gamefreak to give it Earth Power!!! How in the earth the coral pokemon can learn EP but the VOLCANO pokemon can't?

Escavalier should learn Extremespeed. Its pokedex entry states that it flies in high speed and I can't see it fly in high speed with its base 20 speed.

Heliolisk should learns Solarbeam. It has the ability Solar Power and even has helios (sun) in its name...

Victreebel, Cradily, Leafeon and maybe Leavany should learn Leech Seed. They are the only grass type that can't learn the move for no particular reason (Amoonguss can't learn either but fuck this mushroom. It's already too good)

Charizard should learn Acrobatics in a way that is legal with Belly Drum! I just want to troll with Bellyzard Sitrus Berry, that's all (note that Charizard could learn Acrobatics from an event, but it can't be bred)

Aurorus MUST learn Power Gem! It has FREAKING GEMS on its body!

And last Delphox should learn Thunderbolt. For some odd reason it can learn Shock Wave but not Thunderbolt...

Edit:

Cloyster and Walrein should get Scald.

And Lapras!

Edited April 17, 2016 by pyrromanis

[Deleted User]

In my dreams, Ampharos will get Draco Meteor.

Well in it's base form it's Electric. The only pokemon to have Draco Meteor are Dragons and Arceus AKA Pokegod.

Garchomp: Learn Extreme Speed and Fly. Your dex entries mention how fast you can fly, the anime shows you flying but nope. No Fly, and only form of priority is dumb ol' Quick Attack.

OK, Garchomp is based off a LANDShark. No... 'Flying fast' is an idiom. 'That boy can fly.' Extremespeed yeah sure I can see that based off things. Just because it has wings doesn't mean it can ACTUALLY fly. There are birds that can't fly. What it really would make sense to have is Dragon Dance.

INSERT FIGHTING TYPE HERE can't learn Drain Punch.

[Ironbound]

Funny, I was going to say DD Garchomp, and then edited it out because I didn't think there would be support for it to be plausible.

DD Megachomp would become Megamence's Dance partner in Ubers.

Anyways, I accept that it is not necessary for a winged thing to be able to fly. What I did substantiate with proof from the anime is that Garchomp most certainly CAN fly, not merely glide but actually achieve flapping flight, and moreover with a human riding it. Plus its dex entry is not at all ambiguous about it flying, through the air, at Mach speeds. That's why I say it doesn't make sense for it to not learn the HM.

As for the landshark thing, yes. But Garchomp also definitely draws from jet aircraft in its design, and I'm sure that further proof than it actually flying while carrying a human is not needed to justify it being able to get the move.

We can just agree that GF is dumb when it comes to many moveslots.

And @xiri, the only water types that cannot learn Scald are those that are part Ice. Sorry, friend, but none of you beloved Ice types are going to be able to spew boiling water :[

Edited April 17, 2016 by Viridescent

[mde2001]

Dedenne needs moonblast or at least dazzling gleam.

I also agree with yanmega getting fly.

[Stofand]

Scyther and fly

[Tomas Elliot]

NIDOKING SHOULD GET GUNK SHOT. What the hell Game Freak, Greninja, Octillery, PERSIAN and a bunch of other dumb things can get it, and yet the premier Poison-type Sheer Force user cannot get it, despite the fact that, in Gen 6, you went out of your way to raise its Atk? #logic

[Samalet]

Victreebel, Cradily, Leafeon and maybe Leavany should learn Leech Seed. They are the only grass type that can't learn the move for no particular reason (Amoonguss can't learn either but fuck this mushroom. It's already too good)

All of these, except maybe Victreebel make sense thematically. Cradily is a sea anemone, Leavany is a glorified mantid, Leafeon is a cat and Amoonguss is a mushroom, those things don't have seeds ...of course you're still right though, Cradily absolutely needs Leech Seed.

As for myself, I think Sableye should have access to Trick Room.

[Xiri]

And @xiri, the only water types that cannot learn Scald are those that are part Ice. Sorry, friend, but none of you beloved Ice types are going to be able to spew boiling water :[

I GUESS it makes sense, but still :[[

NIDOKING SHOULD GET GUNK SHOT. What the hell Game Freak, Greninja, Octillery, PERSIAN and a bunch of other dumb things can get it, and yet the premier Poison-type Sheer Force user cannot get it, despite the fact that, in Gen 6, you went out of your way to raise its Atk? #logic

I really like how they gave MANTINE Gunk Shot too, but not the Nidos (sacrasm)

[Froiky]

I have one that probably wouldn't be a naturally learned move but should be possible and helpful. Breloom with Thunder Punch. This would give Breloom a counter to flying, which it is allergic to. Also, considering that Breloom has punching moves it should be able to be taught Thuder Punch by a tutor.

[Fumble]

I have one that probably wouldn't be a naturally learned move but should be possible and helpful. Breloom with Thunder Punch. This would give Breloom a counter to flying, which it is allergic to. Also, considering that Breloom has punching moves it should be able to be taught Thuder Punch by a tutor.

Err, Breloom already learns Thunder Punch.

Anyway, it has Rock Tomb for Flying types already.

[Amanojaku]

Wigglytuff and Boomburst, since the line's theme is sound and Wigglytuff needs all the help it can get. It should also get Moonblast along with Togekiss

[Bessi]

shedinja should learn endeavor just for the sake of using its hp once in its life

[Ironbound]

shedinja should learn endeavor just for the sake of using its hp once in its life

That'd actually catapult its usage immensely. If it managed to get in unharmed, it could guarantee its survival with a focus sash and bring any Pokemon down to 1HP, and KO it the next turn with priority Shadow Sneak. Being immune to all priority other than Sucker Punch, Shadow Sneak and Talonflame's flying moves only makes Shedinja harder to stop.

Shedinja already has the capacity to wall an entire team if they don't have a move to hit it super effectively with. Getting Endeavour would make it as bad as Gothitelle, in my opinion. It would force a lot of switches, and can decimate key members of opposing teams with almost zero application of skill. The only premise to abuse it would be to clear entry hazards and damaging weather, which is rather easily played around. The entire meta in every tier would be geared around a full-scale hazard war, Stealth Rock would become even more crucial, Toxic will be spammed everywhere on every switch,and things like Bisharp and Tyranitar will be used even more to punish the frenetic Defogs everywhere and also to stop opposing Shedinja with Sucker Punch, or to pursuit trap defoggers and keep up a damaging weather. That's really a very scary thought.

[TimTim]

Something that has been on many people's minds is that Unfezant being worst regional bird of all for not learning any good physical moves(and its mediocre speed and attack stat but that's for another topic), like Brave Bird or Acrobatics, i would like to add to the facts that it should learn Night Slash to make full use of Super Luck, sure it is not equipped with apparatus or body parts for slashing, but did it ever stop GF from giving Night Slash to Honchkrow? I am not entirely convinced that Honchkrow learns Night Slash solely based on its dark typing, these birds have sturdy wings that can equally slash things up.