Jmanultrax1 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 this is the closest ash has ever come to winning a league. 10 rubees says he loses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredGuardian Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ok this league feels a bit rushed. All we saw was the last move that Ash used from his battle, but I loved the way Tierno and Shota battled. It was almost like a competitive battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmanultrax1 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 ash also got goodra at the end of the episode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredGuardian Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 ash also got goodra at the end of the episode And that team line up at the end though.... This is Ash's strongest team ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Wellp, the episode title was really undeserved.. I mean, the raichu got 1shot :| I expected it'd at least last for a bit but wellp. I suppose they had to give Ash a strong team since Alain has a strong team ( iirc he had a metang before, which will probably be a metagross when they fight). Ash's team however has a lot of repeating types- 2 dragons and 3 part-flying types , that is never too good, however, anime never cares.. I mean, from the preview we see that Shouta is sending his howitzercrab against pikachu and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURIE Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Well remember how I mentioned how it seems this version of Ash is the strongest version? Well now we have actual in-cannon confirmation of that. When Ash gets Goodra back and lines up his whole team at the end of the episode, he says something that roughly translates to "you all are the strongest Pokemon I've ever had". GG Charizard, Infernape and Sceptile, you are naught to Smogonbird, Luchabird and Noisybird He also says he considered bringing back a Pokemon from Oak's but decided that Goodra was better than any of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessi Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 ash has won so many battles with type disadvantage that i've started to think if those battles were done in inverse battle conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Well to be fair he does have 3 glass cannons, a bs frog and a pseudo-legend so.. uh yeah, it is his strongest team ever (statistically-speaking) The preview shows howitzercrab vs pikachu so ... Shouta isn't very smart, I bet animelogic type matchups wont work on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmanultrax1 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 hes probably following one of ash's stradegies. Where type advantage means nothing to the trainer, its about thinking on your feet. Unfortunately for shouta he should not try this until hes more experienced. Ash started this back in gen 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 hes probably following one of ash's stradegies. Where type advantage means nothing to the trainer, its about thinking on your feet. Unfortunately for shouta he should not try this until hes more experienced. Ash started this back in gen 3. Are you sure it wasn't back when "AIM FOR DA HORN" and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted July 15, 2016 Veterans Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yeah uhh..... Two of the new episode titles: Episode 934: Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!! Episode 935: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) ...? I'm already confused. There were 2 titles before these 2 that already alluded to being episodes for the finals.. the latest one was "Fierce fighting at the Kalos league!!GATHER, ALL MUH PASSION! " I thought those were already the finals, but now there are actually 3 new ones , before those 2 that you posted is also " The Finals! Ash vs Alain!!!" So eh? Wellp, anyway, the last episode is about team Flehhhd. Do they attack and interrupt the finals or do they attack after somebody has won? I suppose the "Kalos league victory" is gonna show a winner ? maybe er! Edited July 15, 2016 by Masquerain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tringus Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 It says "Ash's Ultimate Match" though. Does this mean that Ash actually wins the Kalos League and fights Diantha? Probably. This is the closest he's ever been, closer than Sinnoh, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Do you think that Team Rocket will play a big part against the Team Flare showdown? The psychic leader's vision said that they will be in the middle of crisis too. Is there any hope that we might see Giovani taking any action since we saw him getting really interested about Zygarde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeStrider Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I thought the Black and White anime was one of the worst anime ever. Every other season was.. Meh. XY and XYZ Turned out to be Great. 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURIE Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 To answer Masquerain's question, it's been given away through episode descriptions that Ash vs Alan is not two but three episodes long. However the first one is mostly a filler episode about Chespin (yeah. Filler in the middle of the league. Imagine that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Lol. Wellp. It's also been shown via summaries and preview pics that Alain's team contain a Ttar, Weavile, Zard x (we know he has a metang which is probably a metagross now) , leaving 2 more . Tldr he has 2 pseudo legends and a mega, a glass cannon and 2 more. I guess both him and Ash have stacked teams and will have a very close match with zard x vs frog at the very end. That "Kalos Victory" title seems pretty hinty that Ash will be the winner (Also keep in mind that in the anime, nobody fights the champion, they just win the tourny and get crowned champions, they don't even fight the E4) ... but yeah, even so, is that "obvious" title stronger than the authors' unwillingness to let Ash win a league? I'd give it a 50/50. Also, Ash is fighting 2 very intense and long battles in a row, the chances aren't super high that he wins both of them. Will Flehhhhd interrupt the match or will they attack after its end? I suppose the 3 options still stand: Ash loses, Ash wins, fight interrupted My issue with this whole ordeal though... is that if Ash wins, at least I'd feel like there's no point following his adventures anymore. It would feel lame that he wins a league, discards his entire ultimate team including his bs frog after all that happened, and just restarts in Alola. That just feels...wrong. There's also the fact that Serena has a canonical crush on Ash, will they make her resign to never speak out her feelings or will they finally do something about it? Ash won the Hoenn frontier, got offered a frontier brain position but rejected it, and we don't see him going to any other frontiers ever since. That feels natural because he's already achieved a goal there, and it would feel the same way to me if he won, discarded his team and just went back to 0 in Alola- i.e. wrong and pointless. TBH I'd be ok with Ash winning this league if they actually let him settle down, actually grow up and replace him as a MC. And if he loses, the issue is kinda the same, even with hsi ultimate gimmick bs frog, he lost and is still gonna discard his entire ultimate team only to set out in Alola . It doesn't feel right after everything they introduced in Kalos, to just ditch it all at Oak's and have Serena go on her way or whatnot.. That's too much ranting on my part but eh, sue me, I just really wanna see them change the MC of the anime at this point, especially after everything we saw this saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) I share the same thoughts as Masquerain for the series future! I think the writers are trying to make Ash fulfill his dreams and end his journey with him ending with Serena and a league title! As for the Alola saga I want to either see Eureka/Bonnie as a bit grown up starting her journey or Manon looking for Alan after he departed Kalos to search for Mega Evolutions (or whatever evolution Greninja's form is) in Alola! Also, I want to really point out that I enjoyed this saga due to Harimaron (Chespin), Dedene, Eureka (Bonnie) and somewhat Horubee (Bunelby)! They really make it hillarious with their personality and expressions, bringing me back memoreis from Dawn's Piplup Edit: I also forgot to say that if they replace Ash, they should replace Team Rocket too as the villains. That's why I think we might see Giovani taking action and reward TR for any 'acomplishment' they might succeed in the middle of the Kalos crisis... Edited July 15, 2016 by pyrromanis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeStrider Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I am really looking forward to the team flare arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURIE Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Actually, the league tournament champion can fight Diantha. The whole point of the tournament is so that the winner gets the right to face the elite 4, and if he beats them face the champion. It's stated to be a separate event from the league tournament, though never shown onscreen due to Ash never having got that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmanultrax1 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ash vs Diantha? wonder how this will go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yooorick Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I like the idea of replacing Ash as the MC because I feel like the only reason he's still there is for the older generation. I'm sure younger kids (I'm 20 for reference) wouldn't mind either as they have a much less attachment per say to the character, and most people that remember Ash growing up probably don't watch Pokemon anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredGuardian Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Okay, so this episode was just the foundation for next episode. The battling was smart and well thought out (except for that stupid Flame Charge vs Aqua Jet). So next episode is going to start with Aegislash and Pikachu, then Salalmence and Noivern, then Goodra and Slurpuff, and finally Sceptile vs Greninja. I honestly CANNOT wait for next week.The animation looks good so far as the preview showed, so what do you guys think? Will it be like the Ash vs Paul league battle? Preview for Ep. 34: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-fgGxzOKU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) After seeing this ep and how Ash is using 0 strategy and still randomly winning, I'm going to be so so so sad when Alain's 2v6 win turns into a 1v1 fight with Ash. I swear, it's like after Sinnoh, Ash forgot switching exists, or that strategy is a thing (to be fair his rivals also forgot switching is a thing but yeah, no wonder japanese people hate the XYZ season, the only reason the western fans like it so much is because the animation is overall better and because they fanboi all over the ashfrog). All he has is his stupid bs frog to sweep everything for him and that's sad to watch. At this point, imo he doesn't deserve to even beat Shouta let alone win the Kalos league.. Oh yea, to answer your question: No, it will most definitely never reach the quality and intensity that was every battle Ash ever had vs Paul. That league fight was mad. Both of them utilized (albeit sometimes anime-invented) strategy, switched where they should have switched, it lasted 3 full episodes and the only reason you weren't asking yourself who'd win was because you already know that Ash has to beat his rivals . Meanwhile in the Kalos league, random attack exchange until something faints for the most part, not on Shouta's part but yeah.. that's just my opinion tho Edited July 21, 2016 by Masquerain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmanultrax1 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Realistically speaking this episode was sorta disappointing, in more than one reason. First lets bring up the fact that a salking was used and for the first time ever they actually used his ability in the anime, which was random because most abilities are never used aside from special episodes and starters. Second: the no switching. I didn't see it in sub (need to wait) so im hoping that they said that their are no switches allowed, if they didn't say that, im just upset at this whole thing. Third: The battle sequence. The main point of this episode started almost halfway through it. I know that it just starts, but past tournaments battles against rivals started almost immediately (like 5 - 10 minutes in) The battle itself made me think I was watching a pokemon battle from a game on my screen. It was just an exchange of attacks until someone fell. Fourth: the "expected" cliff-hanger. Im pretty sure some people expected something like the ending of this episode spoiler alert: Sawyer did an ash move. He did the unexpected by cutting down the trees so that ash couldn't use them to his advantage I already knew something like "do something like ash" after he looked at his notebook, basically copying ash in battle. Hopefully the next episode will better along with the alain battle. If the battle with alain is not 6v6 it proves that they want this anime done to start on sun/moon This my opinion. Im not saying I didn't enjoy it, I was just disappointed. If you enjoyed it that's good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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