What should never be a Pokemon

[Jmanultrax1]

A phone

[Atlas105]

A d*ck..... We do not need Dikachu.

[Amethyst]

Budew.

[fireflame]

Budew.

Budew just wants to be your fwiend.

[Tringus]

Every time Amethyst expresses how much she hates Budew, I imagine the hatred of Fern growing.

As for an umbrella Pokemon, if one were to exist, I would rather have another penguin Pokemon that would hold it. Empoleon is cool, but having one based on the villain Penguin would be pretty badass.

Hell.... What if it was like the Aegislash and Festus situation. What if the umbrella was a sentimental being that controlled a penguin Pokemon and used it as a vessel to travel around? That would be a pretty cool concept.

[ty_taurus]

Budew.

I can agree with this. Baby Pokemon add nothing to the game other than making it harder to get otherwise already weak Pokemon.

[Lord Chespin]

Let there never be a design based off of an umbrella. There is pretty much no way to pull that off without it looking ridiculous or just being an umbrella.

What about one of those Yokai that's based off an umbrella that gained sentience?

[Skullkin]

Eh, at least Gen. 7 shows they're learning. Togedemaru has a good defensive typing and good abilities, so I guess it's gonna be fine...

As for me, I just hope they never make pretty much any of the Pokemon that are going to be in Pokemon Clover (a Pokemon fan-game made by 4-chan). You can see them here (second list, not the first; the first is actually pretty cool).

I want an unjoy. xD

[Jmanultrax1]

a flower head piece..... oh wait

[Seal]

Pokemon based on things that are already Pokemon.

[Monochrome_Complex]

I can agree with this. Baby Pokemon add nothing to the game other than making it harder to get otherwise already weak Pokemon.

So you're going to sit here and tell me tyrogue added nothing to the game? Or that miltank and tauros shouldn't have a baby-mon that link the two?

I feel they're good for fleshing out the progressive development for pokemon lines, even if some are a bit of a pain to raise. Something like Jynx shouldn't be popping out of an egg, for example.

Igglybuf and cleffa were a bit unnecessaryI feel, as was Azurill. Chimecho needs the roserade treatment and should get an evo.

[Narckarth]

Pokemon based on other pokemon *cough* Pikachu clones *cough*

[pyrromanis]

A sand castl... Oh wait!

Goddamit gamefreak! Why you have to make pokemon out of stupid ideas? (although I have to agree that they did a pretty good job with the design of such a terrible idea!)

[Jmanultrax1]

a snowman... oh wait

[Noivy]

Fairy types.

/thread

[ty_taurus]

So you're going to sit here and tell me tyrogue added nothing to the game? Or that miltank and tauros shouldn't have a baby-mon that link the two?

I feel they're good for fleshing out the progressive development for pokemon lines, even if some are a bit of a pain to raise. Something like Jynx shouldn't be popping out of an egg, for example.

Igglybuf and cleffa were a bit unnecessaryI feel, as was Azurill. Chimecho needs the roserade treatment and should get an evo.

So what exactly DID tyrogue add to the game other than a pathetically weak Pokemon with a shallow move pool and a convoluted method of acquiring Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, and Hitmontop that could've otherwise been ignored had these three just hatch from their own eggs without tyrogue?

For that matter, what would a baby Tauros/Miltank add besides ANOTHER pathetically weak Pokemon and ANOTHER convoluted method of evolution?

If your answer is "Egg Moves," then explain to me: if Game Freak wanted to add more moves to Tauros' move pool, why can't they just add those moves to Tauros' level-up moves? The categories of "Level Move," "Egg Move," "Tutor Move," or "TM Move" are ultimately superfluous ways of segregating what moves Pokemon can have. New moves can be added to ANY of these categories, so there's no need for any move to fall under "Egg Moves," specifically because there are no moves that are completely restricted to the Egg Move category.

All baby Pokemon do is make it harder for you to acquire their evolutionary forms by giving you a statistically weak Pokemon with a horrible move pool that can rarely hold its own in a fight. They do this by having those horrible methods of evolution (happiness in most cases) which means you're often forced to level your baby Pokemon 20+ times, if not more, which can sometimes cause you to miss really helpful moves that their evolutionary form would've learned had you not have to deal with its baby form.

[Jmanultrax1]

more cutesy things

[Deleted User]

A sand castl... Oh wait!

Goddamit gamefreak! Why you have to make pokemon out of stupid ideas? (although I have to agree that they did a pretty good job with the design of such a terrible idea!)

a snowman... oh wait

Sandcastle is dumb.

Snowman is cool.

[Ironbound]

What should never be a Pokémon? Why, an atrocity like, oh, I don't know... ICE AND STEEL, maybe?

Oh wait.

[Maelstrom]

What should never be a Pokémon? Why, an atrocity like, oh, I don't know... ICE AND STEEL, maybe?

Oh wait.

idk, dat sandslash is gonna help me get rid of those pesky fairies.

[Raviel the Phantom]

I actually think the type combo is quite clever. It gets rid of a number of weaknesses Ice has, except for fighting. I also agree that sand castles should never have become a Pokemon.

[Jmanultrax1]

have people forgot about the snowman confirmation

[Ice Cream Sand Witch]

It would actually be our second snowman line, after Snover and Abomasnow.

[Jmanultrax1]

that's a tree snowman. I think their based off some mythical creature or something. They weren't a complete snowman like we see in winter

[ty_taurus]

I have a genuine issue with Pokemon such as this new sand castle Pokemon. Other offenders include Garbodor's line, Gothitelle's line, Vanilluxe (but not Vanillite and Vanillish), many Fighting-Types (such as Machamp, Machoke, and Hitmonchan), and several others, but I won't go on.

This issue is NOT the fact that we're talking about 'a sand castle Pokemon' or 'a trash bag Pokemon' etc, but it's about their execution. Rather than taking the concept of a sand castle and cleverly weaving it into a Pokemon design, they simple draw a sand castle and smack a face on it basically. It's weird because there are other Pokemon that could have been just as bad to me, but the designers were very clever about the execution of that Pokemon's design.

A great example is with Scraggy and Scrafty. They're designed to be punks with baggy pants and a hoodie. But rather than literally slapping some clothes on the lizards and calling it a day, they used the fact that Scraggy and Scrafty are reptiles, and that they wear their shed skin as baggy pants and hoods. You can even see the eye holes in the hoods on Scraftys. This was a clever way of integrating their theme into their design without having to be blatant.

Gothitelle on the other hand just has a dress-like body covered in actual bows. I had a really cool mental concept of how Gothitelle's like could've looked by imagining that Gothitelle didn't have eyes, and instead created little white butterflies of psychic energy that would rest on her body and flutter around, sending mental pictures to Gothitelle in 360 degree vision. It's a complicated stretch, but anything that disguised the bows as something else would've worked for me. The same goes for how Vanilluxe just has a straw in it's head because it wanted to, when Vanillite and Vanillish are ice elemental beings that just happen to have an ice cream-like shape. I like those two for the same reasons I like Swirlix. Yeah, they're based on food, but they don't look exactly like food, and it makes sense how the People of the Pokemon world could base treats on these Pokemon much like we base real-world treats on some creatures, like chocolate rabbits during easter, or animal crackers. Vanilluxe, though, is literally just a frosty with a face.

Just like the others I mentioned, Garbodor is a literal exploded trash bag, Hitmonchan is a literal boxer, and this new Pokemon is literally just a sand castle. It's not that they're 'bad' Pokemon, and in some cases they have really great ideas with their concepts and their powers. I just don't understand why Game Freak is capable of producing clever gems like Scrafty, Hitmonlee, and Swirlix, but insist on leaving others like Vanilluxe, Gothitelle, and this new sand castle with blatant elements that don't sew their concepts into their designs in similar ways.