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[rustytengo]

well here's Jack the Giant Killer version 2

Character (RPer): Jack the Giant Killer (rustytengo)

Classes: Assassin, Saber

Alignment: Chaotic Good

Parameters

Strength: B

Endurance: C

Agility: C

Mana: E

Luck: A

Phantasm: B

Class Skills

Presence Concealment: C

Personal Skills

(Magic Resistance: A only with his cap on)

(Eye of the Mind {True}: C only with his cap on)

(Reduced Earth: B-- with his shoes on its more raw speed then an actually technique hence the --)

Bravery: B

Subversive activities: C

Nature of a Generous Hero: A (Jack had many chances to claim the treasurers of the giants he slayed but instead gave it to the captives of the giants and those less fortunate. Do to this nature he is granted a boost as if he was summoned in his country of creation)

Giant Slayer: A+

Incitement: C (Jack wasn't great at speeches, but he had a knack for saying the right things to anger his opponents)

Revelations: B (throughout{some versions of) his adventures there where times that Jack would hear a voice telling him of danger the origin of the voice was unknown. also he had the unique habit of being in the right place at the right time)

Noble Phantasms:

Jack can’t really have more then two of his Np’s used at a time without causing a major drain on his and his master’s Mana.

The Sword of Sharpness: Anti-unit A-. One of the four treasures Jack was given for "saving" the life of a three headed giant. The blade appears as a rusty well used sword hiding it true power of the sword that can cut anything. Luckily for Jack opponents Jack doesn't posses the eyes to cut everything just the things he can see. (Quick explanation though Nasuverse stuff it is shown that Shiki can cut anything do to her mystic eyes of death perception{which is more shes cutting the line of death of it} the sword functions like that but limited to things that Jack can see)

The Coat of Darkness: Anti-vision E. The second of the four treasures. The coat appears old and worn, but posses the ability to hide its wearer completely from the sight of others.(it literally turns you invisible. he can't be seen by either magical or mundane sight,but he can't hide sound, smell, or his tracks. He will have to rile on his Presence Concealment for that.)

The Cap of Intelligence: Anti-Mystery A. The third treasure. Appears as a well loved and worn out cap. When worn the cap will grant it wearer what knowledge they want to know. Works great for understanding the magic of mages and how to beat it.(gives him Magic resistance A and Eye of the Mind True C)

The Shoes of Swiftness: Anti-Slow C. The final treasure of the four. These shoes appear old and well loved. When worn the wearer is granted speed faster then the wind its self.(gives him Reduce Earth at B--)

More points of interests

Jack isn’t a hero who is great at fight human opponents he mainly fought either giants or mages.

Jack is pretty weak with out his NP’s and they are relatively easy to lose since they are all equipment vs embodiments of his deeds.

I reduced his endurance and NP ranks as well as change his Unknown guidance to Revelations rank B. added that his coat gives him a really high level of Presence concealment and his cap giving him Magic resistance and eye of the mind (true). limited only when wearing said item. Also reduced the ranking of his Np's a bit. and put a clause that he can't have more then two Np's active at a time without causing a major drain on both his and his master's mana. added a new points of interest for you to read.

Edited August 22, 2016 by rustytengo

[Tartar]

Jack seems very versatile, and despite his lowered stats (which are still higher than any Assassin class character featured in the VN and anime as of yet), and yet has the NP's which can help him buff up any two of his stats to A level characters-

And frankly BCC in Str, End and Agi is quite good. Those are the stats Arthuria had in the 5th Grail War, Archer had DCC, Alexander the Great had BAD, Gilgamesh had BCC stats. I know these are just stats, and that they mean nothing in an RP setting, but it still kinda irks me the wrong way that he should still have such high stats while also having 3 A tier Noble Phantasms.

My suggestion is to tweak his base stats once more, or make the point of interest which stated that Jack had trouble fighting non gigantic and magic wielding foes with difficulty into an actual permanent debuff.

[rustytengo]

Jack seems very versatile, and despite his lowered stats (which are still higher than any Assassin class character featured in the VN and anime as of yet), and yet has the NP's which can help him buff up any two of his stats to A level characters-

And frankly BCC in Str, End and Agi is quite good. Those are the stats Arthuria had in the 5th Grail War, Archer had DCC, Alexander the Great had BAD, Gilgamesh had BCC stats. I know these are just stats, and that they mean nothing in an RP setting, but it still kinda irks me the wrong way that he should still have such high stats while also having 3 A tier Noble Phantasms.

My suggestion is to tweak his base stats once more, or make the point of interest which stated that Jack had trouble fighting non gigantic and magic wielding foes with difficulty into an actual permanent debuff.

he's meant to be versatile and stronger then regular assassins do to him being one who killed giants and not humans. He is somewhat similar to Shuten Douji who is a high class oni in the assassin class(whose three physical parameters are ABB btw). Jack is a Knight of the Round Table in the assassin class since how he fought was more fitting for the assassin class then saber which him being a knight of the round table who used a sword is the only reason he can fall into the saber class.

i was doing some looking into NP's of other characters and actually found a base for invisibility which is E(thank you Fate/Iliya for having Gil actually use more then a sword rain.) so that's going to lower his coat to E as well and removing the whole A++ presence concealment since it just hides him from physical and magical sight. his sword is A- do to its description in his story "Anything it strikes will be cut asunder" so it can cut anything, but Jack lacks any ability to make it strike things that aren't physical or at least have a visual effect(like a sword beam or what not) that he can see. his shoes basically give him Okita Souji's Reduced Earth skill though his is less of a technique and more just speed so i'm going to reduce the rank to C or B- and stat that they give him that skill at like B- or something. his hat though i can't find a base for so i'm going to keep it as is.

also keep in mind that sabers parameters of BCC is her with Shiro as her master and would be her at her weakest. Her with Rin as her master her parameters are ABB which would be her strongest well Jacks strongest is only BCC. also his Agility is crap for an assassin most of them have B or higher agility he basically trades the really high agility of assassins for higher strength and endurance then normal since you don't need to be overly quick to dodge giants but you do need to be strong and able to take hits. hell its probably only because of the assassin class that he even has that high of agility.

if you want i can give you the exsamples from his story to why he has the ranks that i gave him.

also the whole bad at fighting non giants is something i put there for murdoc to relate to something in Fate/Grand Order where Beowulf fought Li Shuwen in hand to hand with Li Shuwen winning because Beowulf(you know the guy who ripped a monsters arm off with pure strength) was use to fighting monsters where Li Shuwen being a master martial artiest who very good at fight people. Well Jack is great at fighting giants put him in a straight up fight against saber, lancer, or rider class servants he would lose(then again Jack doesn't fight fair so hehehehe). he's actually probably best at fighting berserker class servants (well at lest none Hercules or Lancelot berserkers) since they would probably favor more of the way giants fought. well and casters since he actually killed mages in his story though he only really did it after he got his NP' s.

it was there to show even with high stats he would lose most fights if he didn't fight like Jack.

edit: I changed his sheet to show what i said here.

Edited August 22, 2016 by rustytengo

[Tartar]

I apologize if this is entirely wrong.

But isn't the only reason servants from Grand Order are as strong as they are because the servants who wield them are from the future?

Just from what I've seen the stats on Grand Order servants are much higher than those of the Visual- and Light Novels, and thus not indicate of what the masters during those conflicts wielded.

Otherwise I guess we'll have to do with the nerfs to the NP's.

[rustytengo]

I apologize if this is entirely wrong.

But isn't the only reason servants from Grand Order are as strong as they are because the servants who wield them are from the future?

Just from what I've seen the stats on Grand Order servants are much higher than those of the Visual- and Light Novels, and thus not indicate of what the masters during those conflicts wielded.

Otherwise I guess we'll have to do with the nerfs to the NP's.

As far as I know being one who plays Grand Order there is nothing that confirms or denies that.

All I know is that there's only one master you and your actually suppose to be a weak mages,and that servants like saber keep there parameters from the vn or light novel saber has her parameters from Fate/zero Gils are the same. And that all of the servants are official and that most of them have to get approved by Nasu.

Edited August 22, 2016 by rustytengo