Sceptilespy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Just now, ShadeStrider said: I completely forgot about Gyarados and Z-bounce. But yes, that is an option for Talon. Magic bounce Xatu would most likely be a lead. But if the field was like "The winds blew the stealth rocks to the other side of the field/away!", wouldn't the role of the magic Bouncer be mitigated somewhat? It could still reflect status moves, but given that Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Sticky Web are almost completely useless in this situation, that really hurts Magic Bounce Xatu's Viability on this team. How would you feel if He ended up having Mega Salamence? Lol, I wrote a paragraph earlier. But for the most part I'd be fine. Why you might ask? Because it's not Mega Pinsir who would be WAY worse in any flying type field. It would also be a pretty good challenge who'd I'd have fun against. But, Mega Salamence as a mega is to easy to think of. How about Mega Pidgeot? Btw, did a calc, and check this out. 1+ (Field effect) 252 ATK Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs 252 HP/ 4 def Gigalith 166-196 (44.3-52.4%) So it has a chance to do half to one of the bulkiest physical tanks in the game right now. DEFINITELY a challenge, but not unbeatable. So I guess I'm fine with Megamence. Came up with flying type field: Spoiler Cloudy field: "Terminal Velocity!" 1.5% boost to all flying moves. "The attack used the open air!" 1.5% to the following moves: Heat Wave, Hurricane, Fly, Brave Bird, Flying Press, Aerial Ace "The air focused the attack!" Aerilate's boost becomes x2.0 Sandstorm lowers accuracy Sand attack lowers accuracy by x2.0 "Sand covers the air!" Tailwind lasts for 5 turns Earthquake fails "With what ground? L0Loser" All Rock type moves accuracy becomes 50% Blizzard turns the field into a Frozen Field (Angie's field for the rejuvenation players, but without, "the darkness is coming" bs) Rain Dance lasts for 8 turns. Any extending item will turn it to 10 turns. Thunder becomes 100% Twister's base damage becomes 140 and hits one enemy. Upon entry, Pokémon with the ability Gale Wing's have their evasion boosted by 1 stage. Smack Down turns the field into a Mountain Field. All bomb, blast, pulse, aura, and beam moves have their accuracy halved regardless of their effect if under Tailwind. Dragon moves have Flying added on to them as a subtype. Hazard moves (Toxic spikes, spikes, etc) fail. "The wind blew the hazards away!" Edited March 20, 2017 by Sceptilespy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeStrider Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Sceptilespy said: Lol, I wrote a paragraph earlier. But for the most part I'd be fine. Why you might ask? Because it's not Mega Pinsir who would be WAY worse in any flying type field. It would also be a pretty good challenge who'd I'd have fun against. But, Mega Salamence as a mega is to easy to think of. How about Mega Pidgeot? Btw, did a calc, and check this out. 1+ (Field effect) 252 ATK Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs 252 HP/ 4 def Gigalith 166-196 (44.3-52.4%) So it has a chance to do half to one of the bulkiest physical tanks in the game right now. DEFINITELY a challenge, but not unbeatable. So I guess I'm fine with Megamence. Came up with flying type field: Hide contents Cloudy field: "Terminal Velocity!" 1.5% boost to all flying moves. "The attack used the open air!" 1.5% to the following moves: Heat Wave, Hurricane, Fly, Brave Bird, Flying Press, Aerial Ace "The air focused the attack!" Aerilate's boost becomes x2.0 Sandstorm lowers accuracy Sand attack lowers accuracy by x2.0 "Sand covers the air!" Tailwind lasts for 5 turns Earthquake fails "With what ground? L0Loser" All Rock type moves accuracy becomes 50% Blizzard turns the field into a Frozen Field (Angie's field for the rejuvenation players, but without, "the darkness is coming" bs) Rain Dance lasts for 8 turns. Any extending item will turn it to 10 turns. Thunder becomes 100% Twister's base damage becomes 140 and hits one enemy. Upon entry, Pokémon with the ability Gale Wing's have their evasion boosted by 1 stage. Smack Down turns the field into a Mountain Field. All bomb, blast, pulse, aura, and beam moves have their accuracy halved regardless of their effect if under Tailwind. Dragon moves have Flying added on to them as a subtype. Hazard moves (Toxic spikes, spikes, etc) fail. "The wind blew the hazards away!" If thunder becomes 100% accurate, wouldn't that be a disadvantage for flying types? Also, What if talon is equipped with a Mega Rayquaza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Mega Rayquaza would be OVERKILL. I doubt anyone's gonna beat Talon if Mega Rayquaza's gonna be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, Mr. Divergent said: Mega Rayquaza would be OVERKILL. I doubt anyone's gonna beat Talon if Mega Rayquaza's gonna be there. You underestimate the community. Watch it get beaten by my lvl 1 sturdy geodude and 99 oran berries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, FairFamily said: You underestimate the community. Watch it get beaten by my lvl 1 sturdy geodude and 99 oran berries. Stall's hard to deal with. Maybe it would be good to give Mega Rayquaza Toxic to handle that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mr. Divergent said: Stall's hard to deal with. Maybe it would be good to give Mega Rayquaza Toxic to handle that? Then watch it get endeavored, countered, destiny bonded, subseeded,... there are many ways to deal with a threat that is stronger then you and the community will use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, FairFamily said: Then watch it get endeavored, countered, destiny bonded, subseeded,... there are many ways to deal with a threat that is stronger then you and the community will use them. Add Taunt in perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr. Divergent said: Add Taunt in perhaps? doesn't learn it besides prankster subseed :p. Also you're clogging up its movepool with very situational moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, FairFamily said: doesn't learn it besides prankster subseed :p. Also you're clogging up its movepool with very situational moves. Well, you did give me a lot of situations wherein Mega Rayquaza's power could possibly be defeated. It's better if M-Rayquaza simply had a Signature Move that OHKOs all possibls enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctelis Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) In version 9, will the fight against Zetta and Gearen be made easier? To some players that fight is just impossible because Melia is very squishy and the Dragonite is just too strong without any decent dragon/fairy-type pokemon while the volcano makes rock and ice-type moves kinda useless against him. (The level cap doesn't really help either at that point.) Edited March 20, 2017 by Noctelis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Just now, Noctelis said: In version 9, will the fight against Zetta and Gearen be made easier? To some players that fight is just impossible because Melia is very squishy and the Dragonite is just too strong without any decent dragon/fairy-type pokemon while the volcano makes rock and ice-type moves kinda useless against him. (The level cap doesn't really help either at that point.) Set up is the answer:d A prankster Meowstic with light screen and Reflect/charm does wonders there Just now, FairFamily said: You underestimate the community. Watch it get beaten by my lvl 1 sturdy geodude and 99 oran berries. Best way to deal with ppl that use legendaries Tremble before the mighty sturdy! My guess for talons team: natu, aerodactyl/minior, gliscor, rotom F, crobat and mega-freaking-pinsir (maybe charizard for crobat to balance the ice weakness) Edited March 20, 2017 by luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperNova Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sorry to ask but who is talon, have met him before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramiru Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, SuperNova said: Sorry to ask but who is talon, have met him before? Apparently it's the flying gym leader, I can't say I've heard of him/remember him either so I don't know where people know him from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctelis Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 53 minutes ago, luis said: Set up is the answer:d A prankster Meowstic with light screen and Reflect/charm does wonders there Got a female Meowstic so no prankster there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Just now, Noctelis said: Got a female Meowstic so no prankster there. SR at the casino for a male one You also have electrode with eerie impulse and light screen, pachirisu/ilumise with charm. Yamask with will-o-wisp Anything goes Edited March 20, 2017 by luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmseismitoad Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Noctelis said: In version 9, will the fight against Zetta and Gearen be made easier? To some players that fight is just impossible because Melia is very squishy and the Dragonite is just too strong without any decent dragon/fairy-type pokemon while the volcano makes rock and ice-type moves kinda useless against him. (The level cap doesn't really help either at that point.) any pokemon with swagger is your best friend.Also arcanine knows outrage and electrode is really quick as well,so start with light screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokighost Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 ok after having a nice long look at the updates i'll say jan "HOLY EEVEE jan you been busy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 hours ago, SuperNova said: Sorry to ask but who is talon, have met him before? talon was mentioned in an offhand comment ingame at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperNova Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 By the way has anyone thought the on GDC the one behind the trouble could be Angie (not possible, but anyway). Propably it is T. Xen and Cassandra is working with them (Flora was right) Bladestar are the good guys(Who knows) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptilespy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 6 hours ago, ShadeStrider said: If thunder becomes 100% accurate, wouldn't that be a disadvantage for flying types? Also, What if talon is equipped with a Mega Rayquaza? 1. no mega Rayquaza 2. A lot of fields give the intended type a disadvantage or two. Besides, we don't even have the tm for thunder, and what Pokémon do we have in the game that learns it via level up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord C Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'm probably gonna need to replay from the start when version 9 reaches. That being said, is there any list of missable cutscenes? Cause sometimes I hear about facing Ren in the library or seeing how Angie was created and in my playthrough none of those things happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptilespy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, Lord C said: I'm probably gonna need to replay from the start when version 9 reaches. That being said, is there any list of missable cutscenes? Cause sometimes I hear about facing Ren in the library or seeing how Angie was created and in my playthrough none of those things happened Spoiler you can save dimensional rift garbodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord C Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, Sceptilespy said: Hide contents you can save dimensional rift garbodor One of my biggest regrets was not doing that ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeStrider Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 All I want now is an update... I found something to occupy my time while I wait, though. The Next part of the Plot is fully done, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptilespy Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Honestly kinda hyped for Team Xen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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