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  On 10/26/2016 at 4:29 PM, Azeria said:
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  On 10/27/2016 at 1:08 PM, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

Deleted my last post because today's trailer proves some of it wrong. I guess the source of the person I got it from was untrustworthy. Sorry x . x

I'm confused. What was wrong exactly? Your last post had the video with the intros right? Those aren't wrong and therefore my theorizing isn't necessarily wrong?

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  On 10/28/2016 at 12:50 AM, pbood2 said:

I'm confused. What was wrong exactly? Your last post had the video with the intros right? Those aren't wrong and therefore my theorizing isn't necessarily wrong?

It was Azery who posted the battle intros in the official SM thread. My last post had typings of some of the datamine Pokemon (including Ultra Beasts) and typings of the trial captains and kahunas. My information had the three island guardians not officially revealed until this morning as Psychic/Fairy, Ghost/Fairy, and Fire/Fairy. But in the trailer they were shown to be Psychic/Fairy, Water/Fairy, and Grass/Fairy.

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All of the starters are pretty meh this generation to be honest. None of them is faster than 70 base speed. Primarina has the best Hidden Ability, all sound based moves become water type. Decidueye gets an ability so that it's moves don't make contact. Incineroar gets... Intimidate, welp it's better than blaze and makes it bulkier so that it's disappointing 60 base speed doesn't suck. Slap a Choice scarf on that thing and work it like a better Emboar pretty much.

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I'm surprised at how low Lurantis' base speed looks, but on the other hand I'm pleased about how high Toucanon's attack is for an early bird. Like a slower, hopefully bulkier Staraptor.

Edit: What the hell leech life is 80 base power! Happy days!

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I've seen some people on twitter posting things.

This is one of them: https://twitter.com/SciresM

Personally, I only want to see stat changes and move changes to previous pokemon, and I don't mind seeing hidden abilities of new pokemon. I just don't want the story spoiled.

This is a chart of all changes made to previous generation pokemon:

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The guy who started everything leak related goes by the username Lurantis on /vp/.

His threads have all been deleted but you can find all of the stuff he leaked (including story details) by searching up the username on one of the 4chan archives like nyafuu with the tripcode '!fFO0IgPFrv8'.

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What's up with those speed tiers? Everything so far is either too slow or too frail. The Yeti does not even have bulk. The Archer does not even have adequate speed. The only thing with speed is the Cutiefly family and it can't threaten anything.

I am disappointed and I'm still on the 1st video.

Alright, some of them are not that bad, yet most are limited in what they can do effectively.

List of pokemon I will give a shot on showdown's various tiers. Stars measure how much I enjoy them.

Edit: I realized my standards have fallen so some choices may be based mostly on their design.

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It was redundant to create a 4th Grass/Ghost pokemon, even if it's a good one.

Thoughts on Legendaries and Ultra Beasts

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