Lord Drakyle Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 WARNING: Spoilers of Episode 16 ahead! So those of you who have been through the story of Episode 16 may have noticed that a certain someone: Spoiler ZEL mentioned before the battle with: Spoiler Pulse Magnezone that they need to have some self control because unless I read it wrong i'm certain they said: Spoiler Lin ordered them to not harm you...? which makes absolutely no sense at all given all we have seen so far throughout the episodes and story, which begs the question, Why? Now if I did read it correctly them my theory is this: Spoiler Lin may not want you harmed due to you possibly having an important role in their plans or perhaps you are related to her somehow. What do you all think? I would like to know if I read it wrong or if anyone has a separate theory as to why such a thing would be the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Spoiler Well my theory is that Lin has betrayed ZEL and ordered Terra to mess with the coding of the pulse magnezone, the main reason she was so forgiving abut her . She then ordered the meteors to allow the MC to not be harmed, just to destroy the thing and to put the blame on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, FairFamily said: Hide contents Well my theory is that Lin has betrayed ZEL and ordered Terra to mess with the coding of the pulse magnezone, the main reason she was so forgiving abut her . She then ordered the meteors to allow the MC to not be harmed, just to destroy the thing and to put the blame on him. Spoiler Terra would be a good theory as to who fucked with the coding, but again not sure why she would order us unharmed then put us through penalty challenges unless she expected we would win anyway...or rigged it....better theory than Darth Lin at least though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said: Hide contents Terra would be a good theory as to who fucked with the coding, but again not sure why she would order us unharmed then put us through penalty challenges unless she expected we would win anyway...or rigged it....better theory than Darth Lin at least though... Spoiler Of course she rigged it, we didn't had to fight Ame did we? She also expected us to win against all the rest, they did research on all people. We have at this point beaten every other member of team meteor, deactivated many pulses. We even forced Solaris to call in Lin's help. Hell we even met Lin. It's not like the alternatives where equally reknown for their battling prowess. Even if we failed the gauntlet then the better for her, she knows for a fact that we aren't a threat and she could just use plan B: blow the magnezone herself. It's not that there are any witnesses and even if she got asked for an explenation she just blames that ame held her up, if she gives one already. Edited December 8, 2016 by FairFamily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, FairFamily said: Hide contents Of course she rigged it, we didn't had to fight Ame did we? She also expected us to win against all the rest, they did research on all people. We have at this point beaten every other member of team meteor, deactivated many pulses. We even forced Solaris to call in Lin's help. Hell we even met Lin. It's not like the alternatives where that reknown for their battling prowess. Even if we failed the gauntlet then the better for her, she knows for a fact that we aren't a threat and she could just use plan B: blow the magnezone herself. It's not that there are any witnesses and even if she asked an explenation she just blames that ame held her up, if she gives one already. Spoiler So you think Lin was testing to see if Solaris was incompetent or you were legitimately a problem that she actually was nessecary to handle? Makes sense really, apart from fucking up the Pulse Magnezone unless the problem was because it only obeyed Zero, Lumi and Eve making it troublesome to leave be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said: Hide contents So you think Lin was testing to see if Solaris was incompetent or you were legitimately a problem that she actually was nessecary to handle? Makes sense really, apart from fucking up the Pulse Magnezone unless the problem was because it only obeyed Zero, Lumi and Eve making it troublesome to leave be Spoiler That and the pulse really didn't have a vital purpose. So destroying it had no negative side effects on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Spoiler Remember how Laura mentioned back in Tanzan that the Lin from the orphanage was very sadistic and took pleasure in exploiting people's fears and tormenting them? I can easily imagine that putting us through the puzzle and forcing us to fight our friends was nothing more than pure entertainment to her. It's highly unlikely to me that she expected us to fail. Even the New World Cultists that we met on the way told us that we were in for a bad time, even implying that we walked right into a trap (one remarks that we shouldn't have trusted an anonymous tip). Lin's apparent tendency to play with her enemies makes me think she really just wanted to torture us for torture's sake, but knew we'd make it through. Another interesting thing to note /is/ that Terra is the only character currently known for being a capable hacker, and Cal mentions on Ametrine Mountain after the fight with Blake that Lin "favors Terra" for some reason. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that Terra corrupted Magnezone, though that begs the question if she did it before disappearing, or if she's back. Though I'm curious what reasons there would be for Lin to sabotage ZEL. Besides Lumi being too nice to you, they didn't show any signs of betraying Meteor (like Taka does), ...Unless she decided that once they've "secured" the other PULSE projects, there would be no more need for them? What Drakyle said could factor into this: If ZEL aren't needed to control other PULSE 'mons, but are the only ones capable of controlling Magnezone, Lin might have preferred to make sure that the ones she needs are save, and then she'd have no more use for ZEL/Magnezone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, ZEL said: Hide contents Remember how Laura mentioned back in Tanzan that the Lin from the orphanage was very sadistic and took pleasure in exploiting people's fears and tormenting them? I can easily imagine that putting us through the puzzle and forcing us to fight our friends was nothing more than pure entertainment to her. It's highly unlikely to me that she expected us to fail. Even the New World Cultists that we met on the way told us that we were in for a bad time, even implying that we walked right into a trap (one remarks that we shouldn't have trusted an anonymous tip). Lin's apparent tendency to play with her enemies makes me think she really just wanted to torture us for torture's sake, but knew we'd make it through. Another interesting thing to note /is/ that Terra is the only character currently known for being a capable hacker, and Cal mentions on Ametrine Mountain after the fight with Blake that Lin "favors Terra" for some reason. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that Terra corrupted Magnezone, though that begs the question if she did it before disappearing, or if she's back. Though I'm curious what reasons there would be for Lin to sabotage ZEL. Besides Lumi being too nice to you, they didn't show any signs of betraying Meteor (like Taka does), ...Unless she decided that once they've "secured" the other PULSE projects, there would be no more need for them? What Drakyle said could factor into this: If ZEL aren't needed to control other PULSE 'mons, but are the only ones capable of controlling Magnezone, Lin might have preferred to make sure that the ones she needs are save, and then she'd have no more use for ZEL/Magnezone. Spoiler We already know, ZEL isn't the only one capable of controlling Pulse 'mons, as we seen Taka very early in at Jasper Ward's Malchous Forest commanding the Pulse Tangrowth, it might be that ZEL invented/is the one in charge of Pulse machines creation and what not else which would explain why they are often the one commanding a pulse, which would make Magnezone the only Pulse that would be a problem for Team Meteor if ZEL turned against them no matter how unlikely it would be to happen it was a loose end of sorts and simply cut off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Lord Drakyle said: Hide contents We already know, ZEL isn't the only one capable of controlling Pulse 'mons, as we seen Taka very early in at Jasper Ward's Malchous Forest commanding the Pulse Tangrowth, it might be that ZEL invented/is the one in charge of Pulse machines creation and what not else which would explain why they are often the one commanding a pulse, which would make Magnezone the only Pulse that would be a problem for Team Meteor if ZEL turned against them no matter how unlikely it would be to happen it was a loose end of sorts and simply cut off Spoiler That's pretty much what I meant. We've seen the likes of Taka control PULSE mons before, and with multiple Mr Mime PULSEs to be implied to exist, someone other than ZEL must have been able to work with them. As a matter of fact... Spoiler Lin ordered them to relocate the PULSEs, and it just so happens that all but Magnezone are safe? Spoiler ...And then she decides to lure the Champ and you into the hideout? Yeah, right now my best theory definitely is "Lin has all the PULSEs she needs, and that means she no longer needs ZEL or Magnezone." I suppose she might have figured that now that she has all she wants, it would be better to destroy them? This part has me curious because it does seem like at the very least, ZEL were very aware that something bad could happen if Magnezone is harmed. Lumi goes "But... if Magnezone is damaged--", says that if they want to "get through this" they need Magnezone's help, and Eve goes full emotional once you defeat them. Her reminding Lumi how much she loves her might as well have been a final goodbye for how she worded it. Possible that Lin, too, knew that allowing the player to get rid of Magezone could damage ZEL, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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