Outside Indoorsman Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) While I am fairly certain that PULSEs were created in Reborn before Mega Evolution entered the main Pokemon Series, the parallels between the two are clear (there's even a note on the TV Tropes page that PULSE Pokemon are basically being subjected to Mega Evolution's evil counterpart). But recently, when I was looking around, I discovered an interesting fact. Namely, several Mega Evolved Pokemon, such as Glalie, Aerodactyl, Lucario, and Salamance, all suffer from rather disturbing side effects when they Mega Evolve. Sound familiar? Also, there is the fact that, as far as we know, no Pokemon capable of Mega Evolution has ever been hooked up to a PULSE (Garbodor, Magnezone, Avalugg, Swalot, Muk, Tangrowth, Camreupt, Abra, Mr. Mime, Clawlitzer, are the known PULSE Pokemon. None can Mega Evolve). What if the PULSE System that Eve invented is (nowadays) literally a way of dragging out Mega Evolution's power from Pokemon who couldn't utilize said power naturally? Edited December 31, 2016 by Outside Indoorsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okirua Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Outside Indoorsman said: While I am fairly certain that PULSEs were created in Reborn before Mega Evolution entered the main Pokemon Series, the parallels between the two are clear (there's even a note on the TV Tropes page that PULSE Pokemon are basically being subjected to Mega Evolution's evil counterpart). But recently, when I was looking around, I discovered an interesting fact. Namely, several Mega Evolved Pokemon, such as Glalie, Aerodactyl, Lucario, and Salamance, all suffer from rather disturbing side effects when they Mega Evolve. Sound familiar? Also, there is the fact that, as far as we know, no Pokemon capable of Mega Evolution has ever been hooked up to a PULSE (Garbodor, Magnezone, Avalugg, Swalot, Muk, Tangrowth, Camreupt, Abra, Mr. Mime, Clawlitzer, are the known PULSE Pokemon. None can Mega Evolve). What if the PULSE System that Eve invented is (nowadays) literally a way of dragging out Mega Evolution's power from Pokemon who couldn't utilize said power naturally? I think camerupt can mega evolve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampellow Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Okirua said: I think camerupt can mega evolve Camerupt can indeed, and not Abra, but Alakazam can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outside Indoorsman Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Good point, sorry. But we never saw what PULSE Camerupt was... so for all we know, it looked like its normal Mega form, just beefed up a bit. I just thought it was an interesting idea. I know it won't change anything, but it seemed interesting. Edited December 31, 2016 by Outside Indoorsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outside Indoorsman Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, Okirua said: I think camerupt can mega evolve It can. Sorry... got caught up in the moment. And Alakakam doesn't count too much, Swampellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted December 31, 2016 Global Mods Share Posted December 31, 2016 Re: PULSEs existing before Mega Evolution: From what I've read of posts from veteran players, before Mega Evolution existed the PULSEs were just really high leveled Pokemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) ^Prior to the introduction of Mega Evolution as a mechanic, the PULSE 'mons in the game didn't have any special appearance whatsoever - you'd just be fighting a regular-looking 'mon that in game-canon was meant to be superpowered. PULSE as an equivalent to Mega Evolution has only been introduced with Gen 6. Though of course, purely from a story point of view, rather than the game mechanics, I'd assume that Mega Evolution inspired Eve to create the PULSE system. She's said to have done a ton of research before starting on her work, it'd be impossible for her to not have come across mention of megas in some form or another. But naturally, getting the tools for real mega evolution would have been hard or even impossible for her. (In a place like Reborn even more so.) I'm pretty sure if Eve had access to the means of mega evolving something, she'd simply have grabbed, say, an Audino, instead of spending so much time developing and building machinery to evolve something else. She was rather in a hurry, after all. Edited December 31, 2016 by ZEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outside Indoorsman Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ZEL said: ^Prior to the introduction of Mega Evolution as a mechanic, the PULSE 'mons in the game didn't have any special appearance whatsoever - you'd just be fighting a regular-looking 'mon that in game-canon was meant to be superpowered. PULSE as an equivalent to Mega Evolution has only been introduced with Gen 6. Though of course, purely from a story point of view, rather than the game mechanics, I'd assume that Mega Evolution inspired Eve to create the PULSE system. She's said to have done a ton of research before starting on her work, it'd be impossible for her to not have come across mention of megas in some form or another. But naturally, getting the tools for real mega evolution would have been hard or even impossible for her. (In a place like Reborn even more so.) But I doubt it was done specifically with the goal in mind to mega evolve 'mons that don't currently have a natural mega evo. I'm pretty sure if Eve had access to the means of mega evolving something, she'd simply have grabbed, say, an Audino, instead of spending so much time developing and building machinery to evolve something else. I'd imagine she was rather in a hurry, after all. Okay, that makes sense. Maybe not the same thing... but the idea for PULSE came from Mega Evolution. A "Porygon" of sorts. Sounds good to me. Thank you, ZEL. Edited December 31, 2016 by Outside Indoorsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Outside Indoorsman said: Okay, that makes sense. Maybe not the same thing... but the idea for PULSE came from Mega Evolution. A "Porygon" of sorts. Sounds good to me. It's one of those topics that are bound to be a bit tricky, since the story concept of PULSE was created before Megas, but the current mechanic only afterwards. So originally, the idea was really just that Eve decided to build a machine to power up Pokémon, no mega evolution involved. But now that it does exist in canon, it wouldn't make sense if megas hadn't inspired it in-story^^ Out-of-story, though, it does predate megas. It just worked differently in the game back then and was adjusted later, because the mega mechanic was perfect for it, really.(I think it's funny that you bring up Porygon. The guy who came up with ZEL told me once that he thinks it would make a good choice for Eve's team despite not even being a Psychic type.)Edit: For a couple of fun facts, though: The PULSE idea was created specifically to make a backstory for ZEL. The characters were there first, and only when Ame wanted to use them for the game, she discussed with the creators of the Meteor characters what would make a plausible explanation for how the three ended up fused into one body. So they eventually came up with the idea that it was an accident during an evolution experiment. (Ditto/a DNA fusion experiment was considered briefly, too.) Naturally, then, there also needed to be a backstory for why the experiment was conducted - resulting in Ame writing the story you read in Lumi's diary. So technically, PULSE only exists to explain ZEL, and conveniently turned out to be a neat story element for the game as a whole. Edited December 31, 2016 by ZEL I tried to make Ice post the second part but he said he's shy :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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