Conor Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Okay, so I've been using this team on the ladder lately and its been doing me wonders. the main idea is to get people to switch with counters, wear them down with hazards, and even a few revenge kills here and there from a certain Pokemon that no one likes to face. well any advice at all would help a lot. As a Final note before i begin i would like to apologize for the upcoming grammar mistakes i am going to be making. Well okay lets begin. Mienshao (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Regenerator EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Fake Out - Hi Jump Kick - U-turn - Stone Edge A pretty basic Mienshao set. I usually fake out, then depending on the opponent i either Hi jump kick, Stone edge, or u turn. Most of the time i choose u turn. because of Regenerator i get the hp lost by life orb back when i switch him out. i like to use him for the lead because i can switch him out speedily to either my physical wall, or my special wall, or to anyone really in order to counter there current Pokemon. this strategy helps a lot more late game when i get up my hazards up because when i switch to resist their attack, then they switch and keep losing the damage from the hazards. Zapdos @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure EVs: 128 HP / 252 Def / 128 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Discharge - Heat Wave - Hidden Power [ice] - Roar i love this set that Phazer gave me because of its ability to be offensive and to roar. again when i get up my hazards i can roar pokemon out, or chose to use any of my three moves to to take out their remaining damage. his bulk allows him to tank things like low powered ice beams, outrage, rock slide etc. actually the last battle i was in this guy tanked a blizzard from a an Abomnasnow. It was epic. finally, you might wonder why i changed thunderbolt to discharge, this is because of the 30% chance for a paralysis. as you'll notice later, Thunder wave is also a big part of this team. Ferrothorn (M) @ Rocky Helmet Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Power Whip - Stealth Rock - Spikes - Thunder Wave Okay so this guy has two obvious tasks. tank physical hits and deal damage from Rocky helmet ad iron barbs back to the opponent. The second task is to set up hazards. usually if i can get up some sort of hazard from him, i can clinch the win. some other uses i found were that i can catch Pokemon like Dragonite or Kingdra in an outrage. then i can proceed to thunder wave them and ruin any chance they had of sweeping. Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Wish - Protect - Thunder Wave - Seismic Toss Chansey is the special wall i mentioned earlier. i can switch him into any kind of special attack threat and stop it old in its tracks. we have wish to heal itself, and well as to heal the rest of my team when needed. protect for when i need to wish my chansey. thunder wave again to ruin my opponents speed. finally Seismic toss for a damaging move. Dragonite (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Multiscale EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Def / 176 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - ExtremeSpeed - Fire Punch - Outrage - Earthquake Here is my Dragonite. he has a huge attack stat thanks to choice band. i sometimes use Outrage on him. earthquake for electric Pokemon. fire punch for steel. but the main reason i have him banded is for extreme speed. he is basically meant to come in with an overwhelmingly powerful priority move. he can finish off most Pokemon in the late game. or take out some in a matter of two hits from extreme speed. he is immensely helpful on this team. Chandelure (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Overheat - Hidden Power [ice] - Shadow Ball - Energy Ball Finally we have one of the biggest helps on this team, Chandelure. Chandelure is my Spin blocker/ ferrothorn killer/ shadow tagger/ revenge killer. he is boss. he can come in on most unboosted Pokemon and get a kill with either over heat and shadow ball. hidden power ice if for dem dragons, and energy ball is for gastradon/ quagsire/ swampert. really the only commonly used pokemon that can outspeed a chandelure would be jolteon. Well this is the team and any advice would be helpful. Thanks, Conor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 What do with Salamence ddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 catch him on ferrothorn with a physical attack, then try and extreme speed him with dknight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 But what if it's at +2 and sashed? Earthquake can kill Ferro without thorns and dclaw to Nite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasedawg98 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Mienshao: Standard lead set, you may want to run taunt instead of stone edge to deal with those assholish ninjask and smeargle leads Zapdos: looks good. Zapdos is way to underused and this looks like an interesting set. Nice job Ferrothorn: I know that thunder wave is there to cripple sweepers but since this is labeled a wear-down team, you might want to run leech seed instead of twave Chansey: Once again, since this is labeled a wear-down team you may want to run toxic on here somewhere, but other than that, looks good Dragonite: looks good. I usually perfer the DD set but that's just me Chandelure: Nice. Chandy is my favorite poke so big props from me All in all, it looks like a nice stall team that will be able to wear down and finish your opponent off with dragonite and chandelure. Keep up the good work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 That Meinshao set is very usable plus Why do Zapdos have Discharge instead of t-bolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 discharge has a 30 % chance of paralysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 and Phazer, when ever i come across a salamence, i immediatly switch into ferrothorn, than twave the next turn. Thunder wave people is to stop fast sweepers. the spikes and staeth rock + roar is the wear down itself. s far as toxic and leech seed, i use to run them, but this team would just get destroyed by like say slamence. thats why thunder wave and pralysis are so useful on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Most Salamences have flamethrower. :L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 That Meinshao set is very usable plus Why do Zapdos have Discharge instead of t-bolt? This is very true. Discharge > T-bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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