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What prevents Gym Leaders from having 4-5 different Teams, each tailored to a counter specific strategies, and then just look at their opponent's team and pick the one team and format that will do the best against the opponent at hand?

 

Frankly, I find it quite baffling how anyone is supposed to win consistently under such circumstances when the Gym Leaders have the advantage of extreme flexibility. 

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6 minutes ago, Tartar said:

What prevents Gym Leaders from having 4-5 different Teams, each tailored to a counter specific strategies, and then just look at their opponent's team and pick the one team and format that will do the best against the opponent at hand?

 

Frankly, I find it quite baffling how anyone is supposed to win consistently under such circumstances when the Gym Leaders have the advantage of extreme flexibility. 

 

it doesnt even have to be limited to 4-5 different teams, they can easily change around some moves/items/whatnot to counter your mons.

 

though its able to work around that. have mons that can fit in different roles, ones that can be flexible in their sets, because the leaders cant see which items/abilities/evs you put on them, I guess.

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Just now, Tartar said:

What prevents Gym Leaders from having 4-5 different Teams, each tailored to a counter specific strategies, and then just look at their opponent's team and pick the one team and format that will do the best against the opponent at hand?

 

Frankly, I find it quite baffling how anyone is supposed to win consistently under such circumstances when the Gym Leaders have the advantage of extreme flexibility. 

 

Nothing besides honor. However, there is the balance between our ability to pick any 6 mons from nearly the entire pokedex versus their restriction to exclusively one type. So, success comes down to a balanced team with pokemon that can to adapt to different strategies. There's also balance in needing 2/3 wins per tier to advance in the league, so if a particular type completely shuts down your team, try against the other two leaders. Once leaders/tiers/aces are announced, you could even plan your team specifically to only deal with 2/3 teams per tier and avoid whichever weaknesses you'd have every tier. There's also the balance in the time and effort needed to create a new team per challenger. It's likely leaders will have a couple of "staple" teams with their best strategies to alternate between rather than counter picking every single opponent they have. There's also the balance that the leaders will not keep the league alive if all they do is straight up counter opponents, as they'll lose their participants if the league is "unfun" and "unfair."

 

tl;dr: If they really want to counter all their opponents, they could, but the time/energy/effort of always doing so would be large and not truly in the spirit of having a fun/fair event. 

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7 hours ago, Cyanna Cyril said:

Are gems going to be available for use? They're unreleased at the moment, but they may make certain movesets more viable than others if legal.

 

And just wanted to double check, is protean Greninja legal?

Yes Protean Greninja will be legal. As will type Gems.

 

7 hours ago, Tartar said:

What prevents Gym Leaders from having 4-5 different Teams, each tailored to a counter specific strategies, and then just look at their opponent's team and pick the one team and format that will do the best against the opponent at hand?

 

Frankly, I find it quite baffling how anyone is supposed to win consistently under such circumstances when the Gym Leaders have the advantage of extreme flexibility. 

While we're not going to be drawing a fine line in the sand, we are going to be cracking down on leaders if they counter team way too much. With that said, if a challenger has a pokemon that completely wrecks a leaders entire team, the leader is allowed to bring a check/counter to ensure that they don't get blown out of the water. As for the flexibility aspect, do keep in mind that leaders are limited to one type afterall, some more versatile than others.

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10 hours ago, Nagisa_Hideyoshi said:

Is Greninja allowed ? It's an Uber Tier right ?

 

Our bans only apply to Legendaries and Uber Mega Evolutions. Greninja, Aegislash, and Blaziken are permitted, as long as they aren't running Battle Bond/Speed Boost respectively.

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45 minutes ago, Bazaro said:

 

Our bans only apply to Legendaries and Uber Mega Evolutions. Greninja, Aegislash, and Blaziken are permitted, as long as they aren't running Battle Bond/Speed Boost respectively.

I can use Protean Greninja then. What a relief...

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Is Suzuki Zealots always did this ??

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19 minutes ago, Simon said:

Is the X-League still a thing for Xiri and I or is it dead?

 

Either way, trying out a new team for S2 is the path I'm most likely going to take.

We're working on it. No guarantee that it'll be available immediately but it shouldn't take too long.

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Is it possible to "win EXP" from this event? I remember there was originally talk about activity both on the server and on the forums counting for EXP gains, so I was wondering if participating in something like this actively could generate some EXP for participants (even if it's part of the championship reward). Just wondering if that was part of the experience. 

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1 minute ago, pyrromanis said:

If I remember correctly in season 1 there was an item clause where you couldn't give the same item to more than 3 pokemon at the same time. This will not be the case in season 2, right?

Item clause is gone, yes.

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Hello there children challengers!

Most of you know me as Lexii, I'm just here to let you know that I will also be working with the Redemption League here as well. I'm being forced here to reveal this seasons leaders as well, so this is all you get for the time being, and we will be revealing new (and returning) leaders for this season for the first bracket starting Jan. 23rd!
~Stay tuned for more updates~


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2 hours ago, Sonata said:

Hello there children challengers!

Most of you know me as Lexii, I'm just here to let you know that I will also be working with the Redemption League here as well. I'm being forced here to reveal this seasons leaders as well, so this is all you get for the time being, and we will be revealing new (and returning) leaders for this season for the first bracket starting Jan. 23rd!
~Stay tuned for more updates~


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ASDFGHJKL WHY IS FESTUS BACK 

also is that leo I see in the background

 

can't recognize any of the other ones though :c

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Alright, so, I'm just gonna make a few small observations on that picture, because I can make out a few figures.

 

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Elliot lied to me, he said he wasn't coming back. What a rude dude, but he's certainly a chill guy.

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I'll say, Olivia's not bad. Not my favorite Leader, but high up. While it is pretty out there to guess from such a weird shadow, there is the fact that he might be coming back...

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You know him, you hate him, he's a terrible person that tried to overhype a match that ended up getting pretty controvers- wait, should I stop? Too controversial?

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Not a Leader I recognize, but I gotta say I like his hat. ...okay, I'll say it. IT'S HIIIIIIIIIIGH NOON!

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GEE, I WONDER WHO THAT LEADER COULD POSSIBLY BE?! IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A HUMAN WITH THAT KIND OF BODY SHAPE!

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Hey, Venus is back! Glad to see one of my favorites coming back.

 

And of course, the one I'd obviously notice.

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I will not get my hopes up, I will not get my hopes up, I will not get my hopes up, I will not get my hopes up, I will not get my hopes up.

 

All speculation, though, so obviously no promises for if I've gotten anything right, but speculation is all part of the hype. If I can make up some other shapes, I'll probably say something here.

 

EDIT: Wait, ship, I forgot Leonidas. Ah, he's pretty obvious up there, so I'm not gonna say anythin'.

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