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The Pulse mons and the giant Steelix, did they die?


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ZEL said nothing about the fate of the first Tangrowth; the closest you get is Eve referring to it as "incapacitated".
Taka, however, tells you in Jasper that being put under PULSE influence is hard on a Pokémon's body, and something about how it'd be nice to just set them free.
The game leaves it vague, but there's many bits and pieces that imply it destroys the Pokémon. Magnezone certainly seems to have been destroyed completely, though it's hard to tell if that's what happens to all PULSE 'mons, or if it was, in this case, a result of the corruption.

Zero also talks about the player wanting to "destroy Magnezone like all the other ones".

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Taka's comment, combined with the Dex entry for Tangrowth succumbing to poison, makes me assume that PULSE can, but not necessarily does kill the Pokémon - it probably depends on the use it's put to, and the amount of time it's been subjected to the machine. Overall, I'm pretty sure the ones we encountered all perished, but there's possibly a chance it could, in theory, be avoided if the Pokémon is removed fast enough?

Though it may also make a difference if it's properly removed from the machine, or defeated in battle, as I'd guess battling makes it use its powers more, thus accelerating the process?

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Well don't we know if at least one pulse mon that is still alive? Technically? 

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Mr Bigglesworth? 

I have also heard rumors that the giant steelix is still around, although I believe they are unfounded.

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As another addition that just occurred to me: It must at the very least be possible to move PULSE 'mons from one machine to another.
When we visit Eve and Lumi's old home in Ametrine, we see the proto-PULSE still standing there. We know it was used to create Magnezone, which we eventually find hooked up to a different machine in E16. And clearly they were hoping to get it moved out of Devon, too, as Eve remarks that it "cannot be moved" under the circumstances - implying it normally should be possible.

Since she was able to transfer data for the other PULSEs from one location to another, I'd guess it's sort of like a PC storage system, unless they were just gonna take it with 'em in a Pokéball.

But whether a 'mon needs to immediately be hooked up to a machine again or can be safely stored removed from it is another question entirely.

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16 hours ago, Swampellow said:

Well don't we know if at least one pulse mon that is still alive? Technically? 

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Mr Bigglesworth? 

 

Speaking of Mr B. How'd he...detach himself from the pulse? He wasn't connected when we found him...and very much alive, unless you killed it in that battle, which seems unlikely.

16 hours ago, ZEL said:

As another addition that just occurred to me: It must at the very least be possible to move PULSE 'mons from one machine to another.
When we visit Eve and Lumi's old home in Ametrine, we see the proto-PULSE still standing there. We know it was used to create Magnezone, which we eventually find hooked up to a different machine in E16. And clearly they were hoping to get it moved out of Devon, too, as Eve remarks that it "cannot be moved" under the circumstances - implying it normally should be possible.

Since she was able to transfer data for the other PULSEs from one location to another, I'd guess it's sort of like a PC storage system, unless they were just gonna take it with 'em in a Pokéball.

But whether a 'mon needs to immediately be hooked up to a machine again or can be safely stored removed from it is another question entirely.

What of the Camerupt? It wasn't hooked up when we first see it with Taka in Azurine Island...and it can't be the first time they hooked it up, can it? They'd have to have done tests first. Unless that was another Camerupt? 

16 hours ago, Swampellow said:

I have also heard rumors that the giant steelix is still around, although I believe they are unfounded.

Maybe it turns up later? Tourmaline? I don't think Hydreigon's blast was strong enough to kill it...

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7 minutes ago, RudyRudy said:

What of the Camerupt? It wasn't hooked up when we first see it with Taka in Azurine Island...and it can't be the first time they hooked it up, can it? They'd have to have done tests first. Unless that was another Camerupt?


If Team Meteor ran tests for Camerupt, then you can expect the one we saw to have been a new one, because as the PULSE dex implies, successfully erupting will kill the Pokémon. And even if, say, some of the test subjects were to have survived, they'd probably still be maimed and not what they'd want to use for the actual mission.

 

As for Steelix, that one was just a regular Pokémon, even if very big, so I'd assume that it fainted after being defeated. It may have been a huge 'mon, but all we get for its lore is the hint that it got pissed af at the pollution in Tanzan Depths - not that it was in any way altered. (And it'd be immune to poison anyway.)

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Lin seemed awfully confident facing it though...I'm not talking about the pollution, just that Lin's Hydreigon seems exceptionally dangerous,

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surviving an attack from an Alolan Ninetales and knocking it out, and

taking out a level 75 Steelix in one hit. It's unclear whether it survived that, isn't it?

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