Bazaro Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 There's a new tier on Reborn Showdown called Reborn OU (courtesy of @Swimming95) The tier is virtually identical to Gen 7 OU, but since Smogon's been slow on their OU balancing, we took a few preemptive steps forward: BANLIST Greninja Pheromosa Tapu Lele Metagrossite Now, there's little point laddering this because being an "unofficial tier" means that it won't sync globally to all of Showdown, but don't let that stop you from enjoying the tier without fearing these obnoxious tyrants of the tier. Enjoy~ We'll keep an eye out for anything else that's ruining the tier, so the banlist is subject to change. Let us know if anything else sticks out as a problem below. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 No ban to Arena Trap? Based on how close the suspect test was and the feedback most players gave, Arena Trap is probably going to be suspect tested next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Is it Pokebank OU or exclusively Gen 7 obtainables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Like I said, keeping an eye out for other broken things. Arena Trap's on the watchlist OU = Pokebank OU, so yes, it includes non-alola things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Interesting. Are the non obtainable mega stones usable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) VERY interesting. I would love to help in every possible way. I miss having our own tiers a lot. But if you ask me, the Metagrossite is totally overrated, it does not deserve a ban at all. And... would a forum vote about wether allowing Pheromosa, Greninja, Tapu Lele, Genesect, Landorus (both forms) and Aegislash or leaving them banned be outside the question? I personally have serious doubts on them being banned. In a perfect scenario, I would split Ubers for those dudes, for Shadow Tag and Arena Trap, and for anything else we end up having to boot out of Reborn OU, in particular, U-turn that is in my opinion the main reason Pheromosa and Landorus are so annoying and the main reason Shadow Tag and Arena Trap are so potent in this generation. But as long as we get a metagame gets decent, I totally won't complain. Edited March 5, 2017 by SJMistery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Get rid of mega sabeleye imo so there won't be any stall. I think that was the reason dugtrio was suspected anyways!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) If we should get rid of one staller, it should be the combination of Eviolite+Chansey. Mega Sableye can be taken down by indirect status like Scald's burns or Sludge Bomb's poison. But Chansey can undo in 1-2 turns all damage caused to the team, and can consistenly make any special attacker unusable. Chansey is even more centralizing than Aegislash, if you think about it. But I recommend to simply pack your own cleric and a strong wallbreaker that can consistently threaten Sableye, Skamory AND Chansey. EDIT: and why you MUST only have to have generation 6 or 7 pokemon? why are things like Defog Empoleon disallowed? Edited March 5, 2017 by SJMistery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 The thing bout sab is that it prevents hazards up. Unless your sd lando-t/garchomp with rocks or rocks marowak its almost impossible to put up hazards on the other side which is what makes stall almost unbeatable. If hazards can go up in their side as well then they will also be punished for always switching around to their dedicated counters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Also for the coding make sure you base this off pokebank ou because atm ou in reborn is wack (thanks dan) aka pokes like skarm cant defog in reborn ou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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