Tomas Elliot Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Actualy Uxie has TR+Memento combo too, but is a bit fast to take advantage of that :/ Also from lower tiers Lampent, Dusclops and Dusknoir can use this combo. The 1st one is patheticaly frail even with Eviolite, the last is by a small amount a weaker Cofagrigus and the 2nd has a better bulk with Eviolite, a few more offensive options but worse offensive stats. In another note I want to ask why Double Hit on Ambipom and how well the team deals with the popular M-Steelix in the tier? If I have to use a different ghost with the same strategy as Cofagrigus, I might as well stick with Cofagrigus. I mean, an Eviolite user would fear Knock Off even more: at least, Cofagrigus can punish them for making contact, by taking away their ability... Double Hit is boosted by technician, so unless my calculations are off, when you keep both hits into account it has higher damage output than Return, plus it hits twice so it can be useful against users of Substitute. As for M-Steelix, remember that this is a TR team, so yeah, my attackers actually have bulk investiments... Meaning, not only can Bronzong and Cofagrigus switch into it (the former getting a chance to set up freely, the latter burning with WoW), Clawitzer can switch into it too (who cares about taking damage, as long as I don't die, there is always Healing Wish). And unless people have started running M-Steelix with full SpDef investiments, Water Pulse should be a very easy OHKO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bepe Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Have you had any issues with double hit missing? It does do a bit more than return but I'd be a little nervous about missing and loosing out on some nice damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Have you had any issues with double hit missing? It does do a bit more than return but I'd be a little nervous about missing and loosing out on some nice damage. Well, if miss chance does not deter people from using Icicle Crash, Play Rough, Gunk Shot, and even Fire Blast and Focus Blast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Double-hit can get you certain 2HKOs you wouldn't get with Return (or have a lower chance to), plus the Sub break. I wonder why they haven't included it in the "viable moves" part. It has a base power of 105 with Technitian, as opposed to Return's 102. Since the damage output is more or less the same, the main reason to use it over Return is the chance to break a sub. Otherwise, that 10% may deter people from using it, but again, its minimal and it hasn't stopped High Jump Kick before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ru-344318798 Good God, Ice Shard did NOTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ru-344853873 FINALLY found a way to use Camerupt in this team... I had underestimated Diancie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Sealeo > Arceus http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/challengecup1v1-347397854 Where is your God now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ru-348544945 You know, I really don't get those who tell you to "get good" after losing. If you lost to me that badly now, it stands to reason that you'd lose even worse if I were to "get good"... Are people masochistic or something? o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ru-348544945 You know, I really don't get those who tell you to "get good" after losing. If you lost to me that badly now, it stands to reason that you'd lose even worse if I were to "get good"... Are people masochistic or something? o.O Cause people in RU don't know how to deal with Alomomola-Amoonguss defensive core and think is a cheap tactic. I have heard a lot of times to learn how to build real teams, stop being a c*nt etc. But of course all these words come from people that use Water Spout Jellicent and Acupressure Drapion... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Cause people in RU don't know how to deal with Alomomola-Amoonguss defensive core and think is a cheap tactic. I have heard a lot of times to learn how to build real teams, stop being a c*nt etc. But of course all these words come from people that use Water Spout Jellicent and Acupressure Drapion... :/ In fairness, he was actually using SD Drapion lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 In fairness, he was actually using SD Drapion lol I was talking by personal experience , but also your opponent had a weird Jellicent (both Hydro and Spout?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It was probably the Specs Jellicent set. But yea, typical behavior on Showdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/reborn-hackmonscup-50262 Godlike battle that i felt sorry for my opponent to go such pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-348904857 I love coming back from a deficit. I actually thought that the spike meant that it couldn't somehow touch Diancie... Anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashingStorm Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 tl;dr godlike plays in randbats ladder http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randombattle-349563803 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-349814725 Thankfully, in this dark age of stall, the light of Volt-Turn shines upon us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Ok here are two quality replays that I found. Both are in high ladder, so you can rest assured they do not include n00bs. The first is a nice exchange between two Offensive teams. It's a good replay with a lot of prediction from both sides http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-350329083 The second one is a battle of Stall Vs Stall. At some point, something goes wrong and... we can see a stall user forfeit at ONLY turn 18 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-350328919 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraRPetO Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-351939262 I need more aggressive plays like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 "OU (suspect test)"? What are they suspecting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraRPetO Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hoopa-Unbound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I made a status about this. You'll need a COIL of 2700 in 70 battles to enter the suspect test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalted Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-352501975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon116 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hell of a recovery for me here http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-352790237 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-352900825 Big plays with Giratina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I have no idea what the hell this is, but I'm in love with it!http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/seasonalsuperstaffbrosmelee-353581948I guess each staff member on showdown took one pokemon and modify it. I don't know what drugs they are doing but it must be a good quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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