Commander's Rejuvenation Adventures (A Rejuv Not Cancelled Run) [Chapter 62]

[Yagami]

On 8/19/2017 at 6:10 AM, Commander said:

Though I haven't figured out the connection between Shade and Narcissa unless you think Shade is into Theater. Well Shade does like music.

This just made my day.

[Commander]

 

On 8/19/2017 at 3:41 PM, Evan20000 said:

I guess the biggest issue I have with this section is that you don't really have any reason to care aside from potentially Venam (if you're invested in her at all....). You're working for the sake of several characters' lives, but you literally meet them 15 minutes ago. There's no sense of investment in them yet. I think the issue with it being perceived as boring is that it's A. completely outside the context of the rest of the story we have so far, meaning none of the events here have any immediate payoff aside from the gate to Goldenleaf opening and B. little investment in Marianette due to her characterization being somewhat flat, as you pointed out. It also kills any momentum that was previously built up going to Goldenleaf. Personally, I would have moved this arc until after Goldenleaf (You could say the north gate is malfunctioning and you need Venam to melt it, instead of the east gate) to let the previous plot momentum run its course. Indriad's portrayal here and later on in the game seems like night and day. Later on in the game, well... I'll explain my issues with that compared to this when Commander gets there.

 

I've seen some spoiler pics in which Indriad makes a return later on in the game. As for this section of the game, there is no good section for it. In fact, I could argue you could write this game's story without it and all the scenes with it. But unfortunately, this part of the game was locked and sealed upon the first scene in the game due to the design. But yeah the biggest issue isn't the story but the fact that Goldenwood is built up then suddenly stopped. Having these events happen after...actually there is a possible smooth transition. The events of Goldenwood would play out up until you meet Geara for the first time in which instead of a prison escape sequence, you'd just be kicked out of the city. Now the only way back to Goldenwood is by...going all the way around. You could then visit the Goldenwood train system when Venam stops you and says you should join her to check out this weird place in the sewers.

 

This is not my least favorite section of the game believe it or not. I only really hated the Ren and fence thing. It's boring and random but ho boy do I have a long rant for a certain section of the game.

 

12 hours ago, DemICE said:

You should have considered in making your own game at some point, seeing as you have both developing knowledge and solid foundations for storytelling and character development. Doesn't really have to be 'mons.

 

Also i just think its interesting to note out that  Anathea's name is  close to the greek word  "anathema"  which is literally, damnation.   Also it can be connected to atheos (M) / athei (F)  which is  an atheist.  

As a bonus irrelevant note, i always found it funny how Athos, the monastic mountain considered the heart of the Orthodox Church, is a letter short from "atheos".

 

If I said I didn't have ideas for one, I'd be lying, but I prefer the writing side of things so one of these days I'll start up and finish one of my projects though if I don't aim for it to get published, I'll make it free and available online. I actually started writing so that I would go from a D student to actually a B/A student in English. But that is a bit of an interesting name fact there.

 

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5 hours ago, Norm said:

Ooh! A thread for lampooning poor writing!? count me in!

When did this become the bash Rejuv thread?

 

I'm actually going to break this up to respond to it:

 

5 hours ago, Norm said:

Pokemon Rejuvenation's plot, much like the fangame it's inspired by, is a complete and utter mess. Most of the problems that I believe Reborn has are applicable to this game as well (Character bloat, meandering to nonsensical pacing, the characters themselves, the tone of the stories, presentation, and the list goes on). One big reason is because Pokemon really doesn't have a formula where some kind of massive story can take place. Pokemon is really an Adventure RPG first and foremost where your goal is to train up some cool critters and beat the big man. Reborn and Rejuvenation try to inject a "save the world" plot that doesn't really work out with the whole adventure feel that the source material because it kind of psychologically railroads the player into going on with the plot. Things like the Silent Player Character, for example are conventions that work in a regular Pokemon game, but don't work when trying to make a story with more stakes and more independent characters.

Reborn I do excuse a little bit of the overbloated amount of characters due to the idea of a story based on a community and there were 34 leaders in total. It actually does a pretty good job at giving every single person a little moment in the spotlight and there's a lot of little things that can be easily missed. Terra is one of those characters. If you ever write a story with a big main cast, you know that it is hard to keep people from falling out of the spotlight if not completely forgotten (I've done a 15 member main cast which whew was an adventure). The silent protag does not help as I've said before character development is hard with only one character talking (Kloe and Lechter in Skies 3rd has to be one of my favorite character development conversations)

 

I can't really speak on pacing as I need to see the full story to see how well it was paced and planned out. From what I've played of Reborn, it's biggest issue is starting something than just leaving it alone half the game before continuing it. I know the Skies series does this as well, but that's not everything about the characters regards the main plot buildup. It's more of an issue of not having enough time to develop them all but still trying to. For Rejuv...it's basically a lot of plot conveniences forcing you to move from point to point. I'm not going to talk much about pacing right now.

 

The last thing I want to talk about is what Pokemon RPGs are and are not. Game freaks goal is to design a simplified game that people can get into and interact with people with. It's overall easy and has a simple plot as their target is not RPG players but a mass group most of which prefer speedy and quick games over deep or complexity. The MD games invalidate the concept that Pokemon cannot have a good or deep plot, but that's really obvious knowledge. There's no single factor or reason why a plot is not good or can be blamed as ultimately it is the writer and their capabilities that grind down to how good a plot is. Good writing, especially for video games, is hard.

 

On 8/28/2017 at 10:54 PM, Norm said:

Gameplay wise silent PCs are used as a device to immerse the player in the world presented. Narrative wise, they're basically a rock. No matter how much you love your pet rock and no matter how much you confide into it, it is still a rock. It can't agree disagree, act, or do anything. It is just a rock. In a main series Pokemon game where the goal is simple, it's pretty easy for the PC to just be a movable set piece that allows us to experience the world without dissenting opinion. In a game like Rejuvenation, where the plot demands that characters emote and react to what is going on, our ol' pal Rocky can't really do much to affect anything. In regular Pokemon, you can pretend you're doing something because the goal is simple, but when the goal is something on a more dire level where choices made and events matter, you really start to see how out of place that rock is. 

 

I love using Shulk and Cross here to show video game immersion. Xenblade Chronicles is a more immersive game than Xenoblade X. I'm flat out saying a game with a talking protagonist is more immersive than a silent protag. The key to immersion is not a choice based system, not a silent protag, and not an open world. I'm going to underline this as it is one of the most important things in game making. Immersion happens when you feel in control of the character you are role playing. It's one of the 5 commandments I'd create for video game making.

 

I definitely agree that the PC is the weakest thing in Reborn, but as for Rejuv it would've worked had it been in the right hands as the PC has a background and story but it's almost always brushed into the background whereas Persona 3 it was used for them to somewhat connect to other characters.

 

On 8/28/2017 at 10:54 PM, Norm said:

Rejuvenation's characters are probably the worst part about the game. I don't think there is a single character that I like in this game. (compared to the 2 I like in Reborn). Melia's probably the biggest Mary Sue I've ever seen, Ren is just kinda a whiny RPG protag dick, I don't even know what to say about Venam. None of the main characters really grow or change, and this isn't even one of those Pokemon convention things holding it back. Blue, Silver, Cheren, and Bianca to list a few all develop through the course of the games the appear in. But these characters just stay static despite having ample amounts of screentime. It doesn't help that there are about a billion characters in this game, some of whom don't add anything to what is going on. The rest of the characters range from bland to brain-wrackingly annoying. I hate these guys, but my alter-ego Rocky doesn't seem to mind them, which creates a disconnect between how the player feels about the situation. If the player isn't invested in what is happening, but is forced to go with it anyways, you're in for a bad time. 

 

Want to know which character recieved the most character development in the entire Pokemon Series? If you guessed N, you are absolutely wrong. I'd actually argue it's Barry. Yes, the gen IV rival. But yeah, character development in the main Pokemon games is shallow. I'd have to give a shoutout to the Explorers cast as most of the guild is very memorable and have tales to tell and actually have depth to them. Loudred is often one that gets overlooked. Can I also say an Armaldo has far more character than any human in the Pokemon series.

 

I gotta admit I wholeheartedly agree with everything in this section. I just want to add that if a silent protag does something that you disagree on or you wouldn't do, that sense of immersion is broken if not gone completely. If a talking protag does something that you disagree with, it may annoy you, but it could be redeemed or greatly enjoy when you see their thinking.

 

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So update time:

 

Since I did say I was going to get to work on Hardcore when Reborn hit 80%, I kind of did but I didn't expect it that soon. It's kind of unfair for my viewers that I stop mid-episode/section. So I'll be posting an update rather soon. I think I'll be posting a chapter once in a while since HC is going to take a while as I have a lot of goals in mind so that would mean very little content from me for months otherwise.

 

As for a different update, I've been thinking about it for a while (since I created a certain thread) but after seeing the discussion here I think I'll do a few of these. I once did a thread called Writing 101: Importance of feedback/criticism, which I talked about feedback and my views of it. I think once a month I'll make an article talking about parts of Pokemon Fan-games (though it may be relevant to games in general). These are oppinionated so people are allowed to disagree or agree which I strongly encourage both. It's also kind of a good area to actually talk about and compare fan-games as I haven't played too many of the new era Pokemon games (but enough to get an idea).

 

As for the topics, I'm debating on whether to make "Pokemon's Origins: The Forgotten Foundation" or "Can bad graphics really make a good game?" though I'm leaning on the latter. Both of these topics focus on the initial making and planning stages of a game. I'll likely but up for suggestions and see what people want to read more of or see my views on. Hopefully you guys who have been reading my rants and thoughts will really enjoy those. Anyways, back to doing homework.

[Commander]

Chapter 19: I want what those designers were smoking

 

And now I'm back and thankfully nothing can be misinter...

 

(If I don't go to jail, it'll be a miracle)

 

(He's a genie, you never say anything he can manipulate)

 

(Should we really be having this conversation right outside his door?)

 

(No shit, Sherlock)

 

(Because little girls solve all are problems)

 

(Yes, yes he did).

 

And then there's a pointless explanation taking away the immersion you are supposed to go explore to find them. Seriously, why did he even give a hint as this is a very linear path. I mean if it was a massive game like Xenoblade chronicles, sometimes you need a map to get around and directions like the Bionis leg. This is a minor nitpick but...you don't need to spoonfeed players everything.

 

(I'm the protagonist. I always win in the end.)

 

(Now I'm just cutting over half the dialogue)

 

I'm gonna just skip most dialogue unless it's interesting or relevant...because we really don't want to read it.

 

(That's actually good fatherly parenting)

 

(That's terrible parenting though)

 

(Oh god...not another one...)

 

And that's all the interesting diaogue in the maze. Anyways long boring section more or less so we'll just jump to

 

(You are in heaven. This is god speaking to you)

 

(Why must you ruin my fun?)

 

(You may address me as heavenly gambler now)

 

Oh btw this:

 

(Not going to comment on this other than the fact there were some nice items from it and you could actually fully explore the place)

 

(It's kind of hard to play outside when it always rains)

 

(My family kicked me out of my house and made me a homeless man...good times)

 

(I...I can't stop laughing)

 

I just had a realizations that Melia is basically a depressed emo type character. That...kind of is a switch of tone.

 

Suddenly I do what I do in real life and touch buttons

 

(Indy is going to kill me)

 

And suddenly I my next pic is taken horribly out of context

 

(...She wanted to go into the hole)

 

(If your head isn't in the gutter at this point, I applaud you. I deeply applaud you)

 

(Why are you thinking about weight?)

 

When you're that age, weight isn't that big of a concern especially if you're just skin and bones. She probably did get bigger. Just me nitpicking but I wish she was older....so many missed opportunities I have to let pass by. So many.

 

(Meanwhile I'm probably off flirting with the nearby maid)

 

(yes, yes you should)

 

So my thought on this: I really like character perception changing as it's just not done enough in other fan-games. This is just changing a sprite overworld, but the ability actually control other characters and move around as them is one of my favorite elements in RPGs. When you have to divide your party up and sometimes you get a surprise helper you use to solve a puzzle such as Phantom Hourglasses Goron. Just a little heads up for people planning to make a fan-game.

 

(Bowswer's Castle. Sorry Marianette, but your prince is in another castle)

 

(I just realized...how the heck does this even work?)

 

(Not as lively as a church sermon)

 

For the 90% of you who don't understand the reference:

Spoiler

 

 

(YOU'RE NOT NINO!)

 

(I uhh...wasn't doing anything you think I was doing! Don't surprise me like that!)

 

(Missed fat joke opportunity)

 

(Missed opportunity, but that won't stop me. "Hey fatso, we'll see you and you're grubby pockets later!")

 

(Free Pokemon...moving on)

 

(Something tells me this is a Marcello reference)

 

(This sadly would've solved all are problems)

 

(You know I was kidding when I thought this was a KH game, right?)

 

(I think I already lost)

 

2 hours later...

 

(That was a waste of time)

 

I actually want to take a moment and post some of the lines I really want to talk about which I think are wrong answers starting with Venam as I felt none of these defined her character but this one made the most sense:

 

 

Now let me describe what I felt what Venam would feel like in her heart. She literally waited on the player which ultimately meant by the time they got there she couldn't save her. They were able to overcome Zetta and honestly probably the D. Galvantula, but strength had nothing to do with why Melia died. I'm actually surprised she doesn't blame or spite the player because we were there and we let it happen, and let her disappear. She didn't hold back in her gym fight but her holding back would have made sense as Melia was in danger.

 

Now for Ren:

 

 

I'm sorry but...what the hell? I believe this was the right answer. This is not a way to represent Ren. It's too late in the night but if I had to write what would represent Ren the most:

 

"Why do people have to suffer? First Jenipper, now Melia. Seeing what [Player] has done made me realize that instead of running away from my problems I should face them head on starting with my hometown."

 

Now for Aelita's:

 

 

I'm sorry but Aelita did not act or feel powerless at all in the story. You want to know who did? Keta. I'm not sure if that's the right answer but I think it was. I can't even think of something to write here so I'm actually going to describe why the term powerless is bad. You see, that could me two different things. The first is that maybe she feels powerless as her voice doesn't come across and people don't listen. The other is that you don't feel strong and it's due to your strength you can't do anything. I think the former would be much better to develop her character but she's the obvs fighting type cliche here about them muscles.

 

(Must've saw Ren's face)

 

(In hell. I'm the devil's advocate and I've come to say hello)

 

(He has some strange hobbies)

 

(I just thought of a new drinking game. Take a drink every time the protag is conveniently saved in this game)

 

(It kind of is)

 

(Actually, it's so we don't have to deal with the mess of a high ranked member in society disappearing).

 

I just want to take a moment and redefine what a gym leader is and isn't. A gym leader is someone who uses a specific type in order to test trainers who wish to take on the league challenge. They are not leaders or have authority in any way, but often are highly regarded due to the importance of the league system. Gym leaders are actually teachers who help trainers get better through both mind and strength. They have gym puzzles so that the trainer has to think through how to reach their opponent. They also challenge trainers to a battle to see if they are properly training their Pokemon and are acquiring skills to become one of the strongest trainers. In other words, they serve as instructors or teachers.

 

This is something I gotta dock both Reborn and Rejuv for as the gym leader role degraded from instructor to merely a tester. The best example is Venam who is literally breaking the law and has done some questionable things. I'll actually go into this a lot more in an article but Venam as a gym leader really bothers me...a lot. I actually think I went on this rant but alas we aren't going to rant about Venam as there's plenty of time for that.

 

(What was your first clue?)

 

(Are we really doing character development?)

 

(If losing the most important person in her life didn't change a damn thing in her, do you really think this will?)

 

(Yes, please)

 

(She has a heart where the brains lack)

 

(Maybe we could just...I don't know...run for the door)

 

(I have the weirdest feeling Ren is the only one with a brain in this game)

 

And outside:

 

(Please tell me we aren't having that talk)

 

(Hahahaha! That's a good joke)

 

(That's called using your brain)

 

(Excuse me while I charge at the wall over there...and probably make a whole big enough to walk through)

 

(You would've gone insane)

 

(I can see that)

 

(And...a good conversation ruined...or is it breaking the 4th wall?)

 

Any old school gamer knows about the famous invisible wall concept and how it creates linearity.

 

(No shit...why else would a grown man be following a little girl?)

 

(...The flowers are not symmetrical. I'M GETTING UPSET!)

 

(Oh I do that to people for fun so it's 'k)

 

(That's a summary of this section in a nutshell)

 

(And the illusion of choice returns)

 

(Our lives were in danger way before you even came. I've got a most wanted poster in Xen's HQ...and Reborn)

 

(You're more like a certain little girl whom I loathe)

 

(Damn this Indy has got some problems. Where's a cowboy when you need him?)

 

(Remember when I said I wasn't going to run out of screen cap ideas soon, I lied)

 

(I don't blame him. The silent protag brings nothing to the scene)

 

(I think you only need one maid to accomplish maid. The other is a lucky girl who I don't mind be escorted back to my quarters...even if means being trapped in a heart-shaped box.)

 

(Yeah, yeah, I figured the fight wasn't over)

 

Now we go into something that wasn't in the game beforehand:

 

(This seems like a really cool place)

 

(I'm not even going to ask about the candles)

 

Normally I'm not that bothered by this, but those candles there just shows absolute laziness. There's no way in this degree of cold and time those would exist. I'm sorry but it's just lazy mapping...

 

(Hello blue haired lady who I'm certainly never going to meet ever again)

 

(Why do I feel like I'm in a Disney movie? If I hear "snowman" I'm getting the heck out)

 

>>>Do you wanna build a snowman?

 

(...Wait a minute...I recognize those names)

 

Let me see if I remember the headache of the plot with explaining this...possibly overconvoluted this: Vivian is Keta's wife or at least somehow connected to the Village Elder who she sees Vivian in Aelita which probably was a totally different meaning and probably relevant to the plot later. She had to be a grown woman by that point in time and died at age 36 at the least. Now for the even more fun part, I'm pretty sure Nymiera is Nim which would contradict the age thing or she's some celestial being as she'd have to be 24-28 years old to fit into the timeline as the two had to be alive for this to make sense and this lady was also trapped here.

 

Then we have to apply the events in the beginning as all of this stuff likely happened in the past since we went through some kind of dimension portal to get here. This place could have possibly been something else before Gearen City but I haven't been paying attention the timeline so it had to probably be 20 years in the past. You should at least be able to follow this, but then you have to think about what the whole sacrifice thing is and if this is really Marianette's mom or not. And if Marianette and Melia have a connection of some kind and as to why that's relevant. And why Madame X tried to stop these events. And why Melia and Marianette have abnormal IQs.

 

All of this is supposed to have relevance in the plot along with the whole Garufa people concept thingy as that's a big focus or something. And spoiler alert, it doesn't get talked about in the game for a very, very, very long time. Sorry to be blunt here but the whole Marianette section kind of is a worthless piece of crap as we pretty much get nothing from it that we didn't already know or could've figured out. Nothing at all and are just left confused like for a long time if you think about this. We go through at least 5 badges where this really doesn't come up. Anyways rant time over.

 

(The truth is a lie)

 

(Edgelord confirmed?)

 

(Not this shitcoaster rant again)

 

I don't like silent protags. Only ones I do usually are able to express emotions and personalities.

 

(.......But I never do)

 

(Is everything Indy's fault)

 

(Is that...the mother from the start of the game?...Nah, it's Elsa)

 

(I don't know you nor do I think it's a good idea to know you)

 

Mini rant: I really hate when a game uses the "I've never met you but I know you" trope or the Deja Vu thing. Usually a very bad sign for a game's story. A very bad sign that the writer is an amateur.

 

(THERE ARE BLOODY CANDLES RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!)

 

(Something tells me...is everything blue or just frozen?)

 

(I don't like this game)

 

Basically she asks if the world and Sheridan are fine which she is relieved to hear. Then she asks this:

 

(Well so far so good)

 

(...For some reason I'm thinking about green dinosaurs now)

 

I'm just...like how in the fuck are you supposed to know this? Even if it was written in some text or something, how is a player supposed to know this. I thought it was fine in which...we get this.

 

(...Crap...I got a wrong answer)

 

(...She's going to murder me, isn't she?)

 

(I thought it was the right answer)

 

(Shit...here it comes)

 

(And...time to use my time travel powers...RIGHT NOW!)

 

She loses her shit but I didn't finish watching the scene so I don't know what happens afterwards

 

5 minutes later...

 

(Yes...because I totally knew it was gone)

 

(I uhh...something tells me this is plot related)

 

(I tried to...a lot of people now are gone because of me)

 

(Because I totally didn't mess up, right guys? Right?)

 

(Neither can I...sadly)

 

(It must be nice having children to call your own)

 

(Wait a minute, ELSA GETS MARRIED! Fucking spoilers)

 

(I thought it would be to prevent the second ice age)

 

(I don't really want a reward...thank you)

 

(Nevermind, I can sell this to a peddler for molah)

 

(I can't promise anything, best princess of 2016)

 

(Wouldn't they think you're dead instead?)

 

(Now I'm terrified you'd entrust it to a many who has strange delusions and rants)

 

(It certainly isn't one of those)

 

(And with that I take my leave)

 

This scene actually wasn't that bad but it's what I consider good minor character dialogue. They don't need to be fleshed out characters but enough to at least distinguish who they are. And yes, I already know who this more than likely is but that's for another time. Also, apparently that key items does nothing as of yet from my "reliable" sources.

 

And as a side note, we're not even close to being done despite being right near the gym leader fight. There are 200 pics left which a segment is usually 1k pics which I cut down a lot. Next is the little article project though which will come out first. But as for the Marianette fight...I'll just say we're about to see a couple new members one of which will probably surprise a lot of you and another who we haven't seen in a little while returns.

[Commander]

Chapter 20: My Mind May Falter, But This Spirit Shall Never Be Broken

 

One thing you will learn about me over time is that I don't abandon projects due to low motivation though I did abandon that one Reborn challenge run because it was a grind fest. Anyways, let's finish this so that I can be done with Rejuv until October...that is way too fitting considering the next gym leader.

 

(I have A LOT to say about Snuggles)

 

I'm going to skip the gym overview as it's a tad boring but this set of images is about to get messier than Amethyst's sleep schedule.

 

(This...is a terrible gym design. What'd happen if a Poke ball slips off your belt)

 

(Yeah, yeah forced gym battle to end a version. Been doing that for the past 18 years)

 

(That...is an opinionated topic for another day.)

 

(Thank you Venam for being the voice of reason for once)

 

(And you remind me why I don't like you anymore)

 

You know when there's some golden character development moments where someone can realize maybe they aren't so great of a person and want change? Well that just flew right over Venam's head right about now. She's been inconsiderate this whole time of everyone and doesn't sit down and think that maybe this is how people feel around her. But oh it gets worse later.

 

(Two and a half. I'm only here because the plot literally demanded it...which is very plot convenient)

 

(I really wish this guy could come up with a more original line than a fancy way of saying "Get out of my house")

 

(I imagine him now covering his ears when Venam is about to yell at him again)

 

(Pretty sure Venam is the insane one here.)

 

(That is a big ass lie)

 

So this is where the run gets messy as I have pics of various parts of the various attempts so I will try to explain when the pics are missing or give an idea of the final attempt for the mon showing:

 

(I need to play that game one of these days)

 

(That lead is at the cap...lovely)

 

(Well so far so good)

 

(And I lost)

>>>Nobody can beat batman

 

Yes, that Bewear literally OHKO'd my entire team. I wasn't running a super powerful team, but it would've carried me probably all the way up until Kiki. This bear has Hammer Arm, Earthquake, and Rock slide on top of being 3 levels above the cap. Can I honestly just say that this Bewear was made way too strong and I would've dinged Jan so hard for this level spike. I needed to grind a new team up so I choose some interesting mons:

 

Shadow Quagsire replaced Loewe since Loewe wasn't going to be able to do much still not being a final stager. Albedo, Walter, and Pancha stayed on the team though. So let's meet one of the new members of the group:

 

(I am a mature and professional LPer)

 

I actually did name her that, but I knew I could do better so let's meet the two new members of the team:

 

(Give it a moment and you'll realize how clever that name is)

 

And after many attempts against Snuggles, I discovered a hidden secret. It turns out he is literally Batman and Batman is protected both by plot armor and large abs. However, I decided to hire an expert on dealing with Batman:

 

(Nobody is serious with this clown around)

 

(So this is my team after leveling them all up. That Quagsire name is just way too fitting...and I'd be surprised if anyone even knew the character she's referencing)

 

Also since I like showcasing odd Pokemon I kept Just a SEC as a last resort in case things get out of hand:

 

(We're going to be seeing this a lot)

 

(Alright time for Uny to do her thing)

 

So one strat I tried using against Snuggles is to have Quag yawn and then attack with Water Pulse or Flame Burst. For some reason this thing kept getting critical hits on me causing my plan to backfire hard.

 

(Seriously, Quag is so underrated in-game)

 

I lost that battle so I'm going to jump into something kind of cool:

 

(You think this is going to end horribly)

 

(But the Joker finally beat Batman)

 

Joker is just barely able to live an EQ and is able to 2KO Bewear.

 

(Oh it's this annoy thing. Lovely)

 

(And now it's gone)

 

(This is one of my only two Chatot pics)

 

(I almost always have SEC or Walter finish it off due to bloody Chatter)

 

(And somehow this is my only Porygon2 pics)

 

(Also can I say that this convo is kind of stupid...it invalidates everything you just did)

 

Porygon2 was very annoying due to Tri Attack with the Silk Scar and the field boost. I think it either had Analytic or Download both of which are not really nice to deal with on a tanky unit. I can understand why people talk a lot about this, but personally it's not that scary in regular mode.

 

(And you are about to see the magic of Uny)

 

(She may have died but her sacrifice will not go in vain)

 

(Or maybe I just switched. I haven't seen this fight in a couple months)

 

Basically I had Walter usually take care of Chatot, SEC would usually be a snipe killer, Joker took down Bewear, Albedo took down Heliolisk and then was either fodder or damaged P2 heavily, and Pancha and Unfortunat just were there to tank kill. And as a FYI, I did do a test run where SEC swept Marianette, but where's the fun in that.

 

As for this overall fight, I'm going to be blunt and say that it is really, really bad. Is it really hard? Probably for a third gym leader but difficulty does not determine how good a battle is, it's merely a factor. I remember facing her pre field team which I honestly really liked as that Slaking was a fun little challenge to take on to your personal preference. I'll have to talk about each individual mon here to explain. Heliolisk is a fantastic mon for a normal mon as it has a lot of power backing it up, but it's a horrible lead. Never felt threatened by that thing at all especially since it's a good mon to make her waste Potions. A good lead is one who is a bit more well rounded such as P2. While you would normally Taunt a P2, this level it can be a threatening offensive force with that field. P2 I think works, but I would've actually liked to see a Porygon used (Corey only had 2 fully evolved mons btw) as it could still be good around this time. I have no idea what was going on with that Pyroar is it felt like Jan purposely crippled it to basically be worthless. Cinncino has no reason to be here. It's basically a ripoff of Noel when with the low level of a game you get so much freedom. Chatot was annoying to deal with, but that's just Chatot's nature and me getting confused haxed hard (I lost walter against it once due to Walter hitting himself 3 times in a row). That's not the biggest point I want to make:

 

There's no team comp here. While not every Reborn battle is hard, Ame is a master of making a team comp centered around using the field gimmicks making the teams interesting to study. Corey had an Acid Armor Grimer which I really liked and why I used Swalot as a stronger substitute. Marianette's team is a bunch of HO mons plus a P2 that skews towards offensive. The movesets are also typical HO ones so I knew what to expect, but I certainly wasn't expecting an endgame Beware moveset this early. I went on a rant somewhere why HO isn't the best for difficulty designing so you can look at that if you're really interested. Seriously, HO is useful for some types like fire, but don't rely on it.

 

Now what would I have done with Marianette's team? First of all, I would've considered making her the dark type trainer and given her Pangoro and Zoroark as those two are very suited to her. But if we don't go that route, I would've probably done a more cutesy design team. Porygon (to reflect her brains)/Lopunny (maybe Diggersby if that's too weak)/Lickilicky/Bewear plus two others who could not be related to the role. Girafarig would be for the field effect and Unfezant or Noctowl. If anyone says that'd be too easy, she's the freaking third gym leader. She doesn't need to have a near perfect mono team and frankly many of Jan's choices are what I would use for a lategame team. Early gym leaders are honestly some of the most fun leaders to design for as they demand less for difficulty.

 

(I had to switch my team up...)

 

(As long as it isn't a kiss from Indy nor Venam, I'll take it)

 

(....Uhhh...what?)

 

For some goddamn reason, Marianette is not only a gym leader, but the same typing leader as Melia would be. I'm almost positive this is in the past, but even if it wasn't, it makes no sense that you'd get a badge from here. It's like receiving the balance badge from Hoenn and expecting it to count for the Indigo League. The Keta thing I would allow as obtaining a badge before someone dies would mean you still keep that badge, but this is just nonsense. The most nonsense Reborn pulls off is the Noel fight, but leaders have the power to accept or deny a victory when battling a trainer. It's still a structured system. This just basically says a lot about Rejuv's plot and is settup for bad writing. The worst part is that nobody even explains why this is even allowed (though we'll see more of these asspulls later)

 

(It's certainly anything but NORMAL....I'll see myself out the door...after this chapter)

 

(Venam, I'll excuse you because you're kind of dense...but shouldn't leaders know who other gym leaders are)

 

(Pretty sure Indy enjoyed seeing me suffer)

 

(So I get a z-stone, right?)

 

(I thought you said five...you screwed me over, dammit Marianette)

 

(Wait...there's lights?)

 

(As they say, once you go black, you never switch back...I think)

 

(Why am I face-to-face with the crazy one?)

 

(And the daddy issues continue)

 

(Cliche lines oh how I missed you)

 

(I wonder if it's really hot wearing that outfit...he's probably sweating like a pig)

 

(Correction, Marianette didn't state that)

 

(....You know....murdering people is like the lamest way to show off as a villain)

 

(You're new to this villain thing, aren't you? Corpses are merely wasted or finished entertainment. One of these four probably would've been of good use).

 

I really don't get Indy. He's all for the prophecy however, he's face to face with what seems to be some odd aura one and simply disposes of it without giving second thoughts. This doesn't give him depth but pretty much turns him into a guy who either likes seeing people suffer or is so up in the religious stuff believes in sacrificing those who are not fit. Neither of those are interesting at all which is why he's just been so dull. I'll be making a couple COGA's on characters.

 

(I just said that. Stop stealing my draining my thunder with that Heliolisk)

 

(Forced dialogue to give an explanation...another sign a writer is new at this)

 

(Is floating in mid-air)

 

(I liked the previous alter one better)

 

(There are so many things I could gripe about this single line of dialogue but...)

 

(Can I just jump off this field now?)

 

This line of text is really, really controversial. Marianette did notice so many things and puzzled it all together. She even figured this out so...why is he saying she's oblivious right now. The best part is that this was revamped and rewritten for this version so there's no excuse for a mistake like this. It just doesn't clash well with the previous sentence.

 

(Pretty sure the above is supposed to be were especially with this sentence following it)

 

(And now let me monologue about my past before I die...)

 

(It was long ago when I was much more handsome than my current handsome self)

 

(Why you gotta cut in on my backstory? At least mine makes sense)

 

(Hope is for the hopeful)

 

(It's a dream that never dies)

 

(I see it in your eyes)

 

I may have skipped a line because I've got angels on my side I didn't have enough screencaps.

 

(And that is why Reborn put a restraining order on me)

 

(If only I had more stories to stall him with)

 

(If would've made the episode if the maids were yelling "Get on with it" after Maria's flashback)

 

(He probably should've picked a less resembly namey like Melia)

 

(This guy has the reward for talking so long he screwed himself by a little girl)

 

(I...just...this feels a bit unfitting as he's acting...out of character? Do these things even have characters?)

 

(I want that on a shirt now with Indy's face)

 

(Venam sure is quiet. I like it)

 

(Would've been funnier if she swore)

 

(And I'm confused now...again)

 

(Indy, if we weren't on opposite sides, I'd think we'd get along pretty nicely, but I always side with the ladies)

 

(I'm just going to assume it's not something I want to see)

 

(I'd say he's more of a nutjob than horrible. Given his meds and he'll be fine)

 

(Oh good the call of destiny trope came here as well)

 

(I am free. I had my citizenship since the day I was born)

 

(So I can finally actually progress the plot now. Yay!)

 

(All I got was yelling from a crazy old man...I wonder if that's what people think of me)

 

(Oh heck no. Please tell me we aren't going there)

 

So the player either time traveled and had amnesia or had an ancestor who...just some chosen BS. I don't mind prophecies if they aren't the center of the plot (I used one of "my son will be your undoing" for a character setup) but don't base a game around it. It requires a lot of skill to pull off well. Chosen ones are a bit different as you need to make sure that the character still earned their powers and skills and it's not a god-given right or surefire victory. That'd be a great COGA topic, but not one I'd do anytime soon.

 

(Suddenly you realize Fan-games and fan-fictions aren't all that different)

 

(Says the girl who can't even remember her own name)

 

(I wanted to be the purple soul)

 

(I stopped making sense of this game's logic a long time ago...girl flying is normal to me now)

 

(Another plot point which won't be explained in so long that we're forget all about it)

 

You know one thing that bothers me about Reborn. It likes to build up stuff during each episode and doesn't answer them for over half the game. Skies 2nd chapter does that as well, but it's more about the villains than the party member they tie to as the Party member's storyline is over or was revived not too long before the finale. In Reborn, it's about a side character who sometimes just randomly pops back up to continue that plotline. I don't agree with that style of writing keeping all the suspense until the end because it adds up and can clog up an ending so much you forget most of it. Xenosaga III did that and oh boy was that ending easy to go over your head. Point is tie up as much as you can or it'll lead to an even bigger mess. Like this beautiful thing I still don't understand at all.

 

(Marianette now reminds me of Mary from Ib...please tell me that wasn't the inspiration because that'd be both cool and horrifying)

 

(Welcome to my world that's painted with sadness!)

 

(Here I am waiting silently for you, father)

 

I pretty much covered my thoughts on this, but we aren't even close to being done with the episode yet...

 

Here's a look at the team after the fight:

 

(Walter was not having a good day)

 

(Teenagers...always bitchin' 'bout something)

 

(At least I got a badge out of it)

 

(Wait...I didn't know you two were dating. I guess that's one way to get Melia off your mind)

 

(I should probably feel sorry for Venam, but I really don't)

 

(I understand the idea here, but the actual scene is...kind of so bad it's good)

 

(At least you didn't go on a date with two lolis, a one night stand with a strange man, and whatever you call a day with Nim. Whatever you experienced was tame).

 

(As a great man once said, "Y'all are stupid")

 

Being real serious, I would've let these three die in that mansion if I had the option to skip this segment entirely by doing it. You wouldn't even be that far behind in levels when reaching Goldenwood City)

 

(Eh, you were the one who insisted on going in and egging Indy on)

 

(Lenny, you should make new friends. Even I'd be a better friend than these two)

 

(You'd think she would've learned this already after Amethyst Cave)

 

(Try more tolerable)

 

(I would be as well, but the plot armor stops me)

 

(As another famous person would say, "I'm about to unleash my rage!")

 

(I really don't understand what Jan was trying to show here)

 

(I feel like I had one too many back there)

 

(ARE YOU SERIOUS!)

 

(I...feel...a...rant...forthcoming)

 

I'm sorry but...really? Nothing gets me more frustrated than seeing a character who should be experience and change just straight up do the exact opposite. This entire segment is her entire fault. It's not even wanting to go into the house that was the problem. She went into the house, ignored the warning in which Indy literally told her many times that they were suffering the consequences of there decision which nearly killed them and it did not impact Venam at all. Even in future segments it doesn't make the impact it should. Maybe she's trying to uphold a tough act, but the game doesn't even give us a good demonstration she's doing that. She's just that ignorant and self-centered. I just cannot like a character who goes to that extreme. And the worst part is that this would have been easy to tie all up in a single knot.

 

She wanted to go to that mansion to prove to herself that she was strong enough to protect anyone else from getting hurt and to stop people close to her from dying. Much of the story would have been the same, but this would have been the point she'd have an emotional breakdown realizing she's all alone due to her stupidity. And yes, Melia's death would easily be a spark for her to do such an extreme and irresponsible thing. That's called tying a story together. Rant bloody over.

 

(The fact she can remain so calm and composed amazes me0

 

(And that doesn't bother you, why?)

 

(Something between the past and a pocket dimension)

 

(I don't really need to know this)

 

(I know, I have eyes...even if I don't use them all the time)

 

(Just like your character development)

 

(Something about...plot forcing me here...it's been too long)

 

(Probably not. I don't like shiny lights. Oh, I remember now. There's a fence in the way).

 

(At least his character changed a bit)

 

(I should've asked one of the gym trainers thinking back...or Gym Guy. You have tubes and tubes of poison).

 

(That...was resolved way too quickly)

 

(Uhhh....is that what comes after two? I thought 4 came after 2)

 

(Hooray for convenient quick travel)

 

Fun fact: creating fast travel in a game probably wouldn't too difficult as it only requires inputting map coordinates in the scripts and a menu.

 

Also I kind of summarized my thoughts earlier and the rest kind of is just dull and not worth mentioning.

 

(As a great hero who may or may not be in love with his sister would say "Digusting!")

 

(The fact that there still is ground and steel amazes me)

 

(Oh hell no. Don't you dare bring this up right now)

 

Pretty sure she says something about the other side not being blocked off now.

 

(You have no right to complain after everything you put me through)

 

(The opposite place where Melia went)

 

(There are only two times that is relevant: Lost and Nuzlockes)

 

(These heretics have nothing on Indy)

 

(Oh...I legit forgot about that thing existing...I should've pitched this fashion disaster)

 

(Sanaki of Bengion...wait wrong game)

 

(You must have a weak metabolism. I, on the other hand, am surrounded by idiots I hate and you don't see me exerting my insides)

 

(Character awareness 101...eh, wait we're almost done!)

 

(To think that we could have avoided all of this with a jump button)

 

And were's done so there's only one thing left to do:

 

Spoiler

 

 

So instead of a Recap anymore, I'm just going to sum up my thoughts of the segment:

 

The first half of this segment really wasn't too bad from story and gameplay perspective. I think it was a huge mistake removing Rorim B's uniqueness with his bug team to make him a strict Mirror B clone. The original battle was fun and I did have a little trouble, but I liked it. It was also great subtle foreshadowing. Also, we got a Shadow Bonsly earlier. The second half I enjoyed the search and find style of the mansion, but story wise I just didn't think it was that good. I'm also not a fan of the battle as I do like to see a small theme with a leader (doesn't have to do with personality) other than HO strats since that's been the last 3 leader strats. I think that's the next leader...Jan get some new strats already. Biggest gripe had to be the missed Venam character development. She could be such a good character, but Jan is just holding himself back trying to degrade characters from people to a tool to explain stuff or move the plot.

 

Hmm...perhaps I should make a Commander quote (even though I'm sure somebody said this before me):

 

"A character is as real as you make them out to be."

[Zargerth]

4 hours ago, Commander said:

Now what would I have done with Marianette's team? First of all, I would've considered making her the dark type trainer and given her Pangoro and Zoroark as those two are very suited to her. But if we don't go that route, I would've probably done a more cutesy design team. Porygon (to reflect her brains)/Lopunny (maybe Diggersby if that's too weak)/Lickilicky/Bewear plus two others who could not be related to the role. Girafarig would be for the field effect and Unfezant or Noctowl. If anyone says that'd be too easy, she's the freaking third gym leader. She doesn't need to have a near perfect mono team and frankly many of Jan's choices are what I would use for a lategame team. Early gym leaders are honestly some of the most fun leaders to design for as they demand less for difficulty.

Oranguru might work here as well. It sort of fits a theme (since according to it's Pokedex entry it's very intelligent. You could say it's not particularly cute, though) and with the right moveset could be outright terror to face. It can take advantage of the field like Girafarig, but Oranguru has Psychic Terrain in it's pocket, which can change the flow of battle. In my opinion Noel kinda has that cutesy design in his team considering that he has Wigglytuff, Clefable, Cinccino and Girafarig, so from that perspective it's not such a bad idea to take different approach with Marianette's team.

 

Noctowl actually sounds fun. The field boosts sort of make up for it's otherwise low attack power, but Noctowl could be used for defensive play too. Reflect/Feather Dance along with Roost and then two damage-dealing moves, STAB maybe?

[Sceptilespy]

Can't say I liked the new Marianette segment at all. It's probably just me, but it took way to long for the character to only get a badge out of it. I didn't get any character development, the story only got more confusing, etc. I understand Rejuv is one of those games where everything will come together during the end, but idk if I'll even remember anything, so what's really even coming together. "OH, that character, was that character, and then that character, did..., yeah I don't care about this anymore."

In fact, speaking of super powers, they've been handled horribly in every game they've been in. 

Spoiler

Yo, can someone please tell me where the sense is being made, because I simply cannot find it. Ok, so Melia can find shiny Pokemon, yet, when Team Xen took Melia's DNA to make Zetta, Zetta can make Dimensional Rifts. W H A T. So can Melia make dimensional rifts? Can Zetta find Shiny Pokemon 99% of the time? Oh, and since there's an obvious connection between Melia and Marianette, can Melia fly? Can Zetta fly? Why did it take Marianette remembering something, to get her to fly. I'm assuming she's pretty bored, so you would've thought, with nothing to do , she would've stumbled across one of her super powers. Can Zetta do any of the aforementioned? ALSO. Let's talk about Madame X. What's the point of using a Yveltal to beat us if you're just going to have a temper tantrum and stomp us off the castle. Why does she even have this? If you have the God of death on your side. Why even battle us. Why not just threaten to kill everyone. Neved already has the lasers up. If you're just going to turn them off, why invest in the lasers, when it literally renders your MAIN threat useless? There was literally no way to lose, and Madame X had won, but somewhere, at Spear Pillar, Arceus just decided to fart on everything that was logical, because we escaped with only ONE casualty. I don't even want to know how Nancy saved us from that sword strike, but I'll ignore it. And then after all of that. Madame X gets zapped by lasers and acts like she's been defeated. YOU HAVE A YVELTAL. USE IT!!!! YOU CAN TURN MELIA TO STONE AND TAKE HER. IN FACT, TURN THE BOAT TO STONE. There's just no way, I, a complete shut in, should be able to come up with solutions to all of a supposedly evil organizations fuck ups off the top of my head. Please explain this to me. Also, speaking of super powers. Can I just say, Rejuv has made me hate them. In fact, every fangame I've seen use them has completely shitted on them. In Pokemon Insurgence, Infernal Cult Leader Zenith can control people with his mind after getting their DNA. The problem with this is, for one, it's represented horribly in the game. He basically makes everyone fight. Yet, in game, everyone is just standing, and looking at each other. That's not intimidating at all, unlike with Audrey, the Abyssal cult leader, who actually nearly flooded the Torren Region, and the effect of her plans is actually noticeable and intimidating. Another problem is, Zenith has only gotten the DNA of everyone in Ouranos City. He has literally been nowhere else getting the DNA. Yet suddenly, he controls everyone in the region. What. There were so many ways to make Zenith intimidating. Like, literally with Kyogre out of the picture, and Rayquaza being caught, Zenith has legit nothing stopping Primal Groudon from frying the entire Torren region. What's even WORSE, is that Zenith has no clear goal. Like he caught Heatran for literally no reason. We aren't even shown him catching this, he just has it on his final battle. BECAUSE THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. Zenith gets superpowers for no reason, and Zenith overall is a bad character. The superpowers in fangames so far haven't been explained at ALL, and have been handled horribly. I know I'm not the best game dev, or battle dev, or whatever dev. But I do know, that I have a PhD in being a Bullshit dev, and I know damn well when I see it. 

 

Edited September 16, 2017 by Sceptilespy

[Commander]

IT HAS BEEN 3.000 weeks since I've done another chapter in this hellhole of a run. So let's begin with responses:

 

@Zargerth Can't really say much about Gen VII since I've barely seen and used any of those mons. It wouldn't be a terrible idea to give suggestions to the guys now working on Rejuvenation battles (which probably means I don't need to do a hardcore version...yay?)

 

@Sceptilespy

 

Spoiler

 

Kind of spoiler heavy so I only skimmed it, but uhhh...it's an element in most games to relive subjects from characters and party members later usually with a lead that they'll be involved later (such as an antagonist having relations to a party member). Third gym segment was kind of a wasted opportunity, but it's hard to judge without the full story.

 

 

Previously on Commander's Confusing Rants across the nation:

 

(I have taken a fence...get it?)

 

Chapter 21 One of these days I'll screw up the chapter number

 

(I am already dreading this section already)

 

If anybody sees me talk about Rejuv, they'd see me say that this is the weakest part of the game. Just saying that right now.

 

(Yep...that's still there)

 

Let's see what the girl says on the matter

 

(Yes. I think that hair looks great on...)

 

(Oh goodie I like compliments)

 

(There's something else I'd like to say to you: at least my lines are original. Seriously, pretty sure an NPC outside says the same thing or very similar)

 

(Well the door was unlocked)

 

(Lady, why are you touching my pants like that?)

 

(That...why? How? What just happened?)

 

(What are you doing standing on the couch?)

 

(Yes, yes they have)

 

(One more comment about my momma and I'll be whooping your ass so hard you'll go crying back to yours)

 

(A friendly NPC, finally?)

 

(...)

 

(I guess my eyes would go bad too if I had to look at that in the mirror daily)

 

(Wow, an NPC who isn't an over the top a-hole)

 

(You act like that's a bad thing. Don't you want their money?)

 

(That...or they thought this was a place to get laid)

 

(Wait...we get radio here? Why didn't anybody tell me?)

 

(Suddenly, I'm thinking about Bad End Night...please tell me I'm not reliving it)

 

(Well, at least you didn't tell me to kill myself...like every other NPC)

 

(I...you guys are an idiot for not building a way to get around this city to the next one)

 

(No, it's because you are the only way of reaching the town North of here)

 

(Sigh...guess the beauty makeover will have to wait little guy)

 

That reminds me I need to check and see if I can actually obtain that Snubbull

 

(It's probably the gay guy in Gearen. I'm calling it now)

 

I honestly wish we could have met the boy who she did this to. I'm not going to show anymore NPC dialogue since we already have a pretty good idea what this whole place is like. A big issue I have with this section is that it just tries to rely on quick jabs to irritate you to make you hate the NPCs. I'm actaully going to bring up Cold Steel as there's a little town called Bareahard which has a conflict between the rich and poor. The nobles treat commoners like complete filth with one basically eating what was supposed to be a gem from a foreigner's wedding ring due to the myth it could cure all diseases. Another sent you on a quest believing that commoners were only worthy of grabbing and fulfilling runt jobs such as a fetch quest since it was too far below them to do themselves. The two classes REALLY did not like each other, but they didn't give death threats to build up tension at all.

 

Something you need to think about is what your playerbase is like especially in a game where the player is supposed to be physically you. They don't have thoughts as they are your own thoughts. Even if it wasn't your intention, having an NPC say go die basically is saying for that person to go die because they don't like you. That could be reflected as a person playing a game to go die. Obviously no sane man would literally think that or even try it, but it does really bother me a game has such emphasis on it for a section. Especially with the emphasis these people actually mean it.

 

Rejuv tries to be too serious which I seriously think is this game's downfall. I game doesn't need to be super serious to be enjoyable. In fact, I think it would be hilarious if the NPCs couldn't say "Die" or "Go kill yourself" due to a non-agression act and come up with more witty ways to get a message off like "I hope you lose your next battle and the guy mugs your money." Or a classic of "Welcome to Goldenwood! Grab your shitty badge and get the hell out! Have a nice day!"

 

(Wow...Ren became besties with Venam and Melia in less than a year...that's really sad. Those two must have terrible friends)

 

(We'll get more to that later)

 

(Probably because you gave her a terrible name that sounds like the female variant of Ren. I just imagined Ren with boobs...I'd tap that)

 

(Wow, Ren has a tragic backstory. Almost makes you feel bad for him...not)

 

(The first citizen who gives a damn what happens to people in this town)

 

(Suddenly I'm having flashbacks about an old lady from Hoenn)

 

(Yes, and I'm proud of it!)

 

Oh yeah, I did do some of the Zubat quest, but I stopped halfway as I didn't have flash. All I have is Joker KOing a Kingdra. Joker the Mr. Mime is awesome and y'all should use Mr. Mime.

 

(Oh god why is this still here)

 

(How the heck did that rope not fall off?)

 

(<<....>> Stealing is bad...and I totally don't do it all the time...people just leave free stuff on the ground is all)

 

(Are you going to switch her job class?)

 

(I...I'm just not going to say anything)

 

(Kid's about to die and that's all they can say)

 

(Yes. The moment you add weight to that rope it will just slide off. I don't know how it hasn't already given it's placed on a downward slope)

 

(I may not have manners, but I at least know how to properly kill somebody...not that I have...or anything)

 

(Except trees can't move so I must stand here)

 

(I am a tree. Pay me no mind)

 

(This is why you don't mess with whitey)

 

(No, I am a tree)

 

(TWIST IT!)

 

(I am a tree. Pay me no mind)

 

Now I really wish I replaced my sprite with a tree here.

 

(Bye mysterious little girl who I'll probably never see again)

 

(If I could do whatever I wanted, I wouldn't be clothed right now, but alas I must learn to flash with clothes to get a bat)

 

(Yet you somehow are allowed to)

 

I think I'm going to stop here for a very, very short episode and the fact I probably won't get to work on this for a little while. Anyways, I think something people tend to forget about is that videogames do have an impact on people who play them. That's why it really bothers me that the fact that hanging someone which is a serious big thing...especially hanging a child is thrown around so freely like it's nothing. There's literally no reason it should go as far as hanging as beating the living hell out of the kid would've been just as bad. It's probably for shock value which is all that it does honestly.

 

What really bothers me with this actually has to do with the concept of bullying. It's a real thing and happens in every school. I was bullied in school but it was more verbally than physically. I didn't let it get to me much and I think the worst it got at our school were doileys or whatever you call sticking somebody's head into a toilet. Nobody around me actually hanged themselves but...wouldn't surprise me if something like this happened somewhere. I'm not against someone being hanged to death in a video game nor am I against the inclusion of a noose in a game. One of the biggest reasons I put Rejuvenation down the first time was due to the fact that the hanging of a little girl was treated like nothing. There are 12 and 13 year olds who probably played or are playing Rejuvenation. It's never talked about again nor did anyone actually act against it. So yeah, I definitely think this was one of the "Too far" moments in Rejuv.

[Zargerth]

2 hours ago, Commander said:

All I have is Joker KOing a Kingdra. Joker the Mr. Mime is awesome and y'all should use Mr. Mime.

This is what I've been telling @Caz in Desolation thread (speaking of which, I think Mr. Mime is still not available)! My personal opinion is that Gardevoir should not be obtainable before Mr. Mime, since that leaves the player with little to no incentive to use Mr. Mime at all. It's almost like giving players Scizor before Beedrill is anywhere to be seen.

 

2 hours ago, Commander said:

That's why it really bothers me that the fact that hanging someone which is a serious big thing...especially hanging a child is thrown around so freely like it's nothing. There's literally no reason it should go as far as hanging as beating the living hell out of the kid would've been just as bad. It's probably for shock value which is all that it does honestly.

I remember mentioning shock value in one of my (now buried) threads in regards to content of fangames. Is shock value- content always there just for the sake of shock value, or could certain acts work as means of narrating story or developing character that no other mean or method can achieve? For instance, I believe there's a difference between characters witnessing violence and them experiencing violence - while both of these traumas affect the character(s) present, you could say the effects are different based on the situation they're in. Can content with shock value achieve anything but shock value and can shock value be relevant or important (to the story and characters)?

 

How would you write this section of the game (Mosley's introduction)? From what I understand, this scene is supposed to display how far the townsfolk is ready to go in order to get rid of outsiders, it shows their hatred. How would you write and convey that?

[Commander]

On 10/6/2017 at 4:26 AM, Zargerth said:

I remember mentioning shock value in one of my (now buried) threads in regards to content of fangames. Is shock value- content always there just for the sake of shock value, or could certain acts work as means of narrating story or developing character that no other mean or method can achieve? For instance, I believe there's a difference between characters witnessing violence and them experiencing violence - while both of these traumas affect the character(s) present, you could say the effects are different based on the situation they're in. Can content with shock value achieve anything but shock value and can shock value be relevant or important (to the story and characters)?

 

How would you write this section of the game (Mosley's introduction)? From what I understand, this scene is supposed to display how far the townsfolk is ready to go in order to get rid of outsiders, it shows their hatred. How would you write and convey that?

Another misinterpretation of shock value is that it serves to have your audience been more engaged in a works. Shock value is a tool that actually is meant to throw the audience off or even change their mindsets. It's like killing the main character in a story when everything is all fine and dandy or maybe even a certain magical girl show. The important thing is to build off of it now that you have the audience's attention as well now they are curious where you'll go next. I hate to bash Jan on this (and I know that the fandom did not help with my judgement) but I really feel that Jan's 3 years of experience making this game hasn't really shown story wise. The other fields it has greatly improved but story just is not the level I expect.

 

As for rewriting the section, it's a tad bit tricky but I have to have boundaries and things I can't changes since this was already pre-made. What I can't change is the whole noose and Mosley about to be hung and killed. I also can't change the villagers' attitude towards "outsiders". This leads to a very nonsensical situation which is very hard to work with. Like for this to happen, everyone in the village would have to be psychopath levels just because one person burned down the tower (that's like treating all Middle Easterners in the U.S. like complete shit due to 9/11. Hell, that is more logical due to the attacks on Paris not that long ago). Sorry to get into the deeper parts of the mature themes here, but I'd understand that attitude if themes like murder, rape, or child abduction happened across the village. Child trafficking is a real thing and it's not something people just get over when they lose their child.

 

Terrorism is a very, very bad thing and does have effects on people but it's usually not enough to snap a community in half. People are stronger than you may think. The thing about terrorism especially in this situation is that it was one single person which it's happened across the many years of this world on many people including John F Kennedy, Julius Ceaser, etc. People are self conscious enough that a person or small group doesn't represent an entire nation or ethnicity of people. Not the best example, but take Shulk from Xenoblade. After the events in Colony 9, he didn't leave the village with the goal of eradicating all Mechon, his goal was to find and seek revenge on a specific Mechon, Metal Face. Of course he planned to fend of the Mechon since well...they kind of eat Homs.

 

I wanted to clear this up before I explain what I would change because if you haven't figured it out...it could just blow your mind. That'll come at the end though. As for the Mosley scene, what I would do is have the kids about to hang them with the same dialogue. What I'd do instead of the kids fighting the player who was trying to stop them is to have Ren's mom walk up and call them out saying it's ridiculous that they'd go so far to kill a little girl for stealing bread. She tells them to let the girl go right then and there before telling their parents what exactly they did. One of the kids would say back that they wouldn't care because it's right to punish outsiders. Ren's mom says that they'd need to explain to the authorities how they aren't murderers. The kids then reluctantly let Mosley go who runs off thanking the player and Ren's mom. The kids also run off before taunting the lady that she's a good for nothing softy like her son and one day she'll pay. Ren's mom then introduces herself to the player realizing that the player knows Ren. She then says that it isn't safe to wander around outside and takes you to her house where she explains a bit of what happened and how it finally drove Ren to run away. The player informs her of what's going on and she's a bit relieved he hasn't changed a bit. She also talks about how Ren's sister ran off for some odd reason and wonders if you've seen her as well which the player answers no. She's a bit bummed by that, but changes the subject suggesting that the player meets with the Gym Leader, Narcissa to get their badge and get out of here ASAP.

 

As for Mosley, I'd have a conversation afterwards in which she mentions the player didn't need to worry because the kids were simply playing a stunt to try and be cool and edgy and they weren't really going to kill her (except they were). She still thanks the player anyways for trying to save her. I'd also at the end of this section actually have one of the kids have a conversation saying how it was just a stunt...but they might have actually done it if she kept resisting...making her reflect how she's just as bad as the lady who burned the radio tower down.

 

Whew, that was a long explanation but the point here isn't changing the story, but changing the drives and motives of characters. There's one more change I'd do but we'll wait until we get to that point before I explain it as it'll tie everything up in a beautiful knot.

 

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Chapter 22 I don't know about you...

 

So an ongoing issue that will happen is that images get corrupted while uploading and since I do 200 at a time...it gets iffy. So I gotta piece together what happened here (I may or may not have forgotten most of the dialogue tbh)

 

(I'm starting to think these guys are Puritans)

 

I had a lot of stuff regarding the residents being awful to people but we've seen more than enough of that already I think I'll pass. Now we get to Narcissa...which happens for some odd reason. I don't remember any direction hinting toward her tbh.

 

(...Why am I being treated like a...no Commander. No racism. Be a good boy)

 

We're skipping the more mumbo jumbo about Goldenwood privileges because boring stuff

 

(So people would accept me into this society if I beat someone up...I guess that makes sense in a town like this)

 

Oh wait I remember what this is. It's about allowing passage into Aukuwa...or whatever it's called. Only residents or wielders of the gym badge can cross...which must be horrible for business and restocking supplies.

 

(I'm Steven Stone the 2nd. I live and die for rocks like yours)

 

[She says no but...]

 

(Yeah, I met them. They're nice people.)

 

(...DID YOU NOT SEE THE LITTLE GIRL ABOUT TO BE HANGED! I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIED!)

 

(Huh, someone actually taking authority...by making me do it)

 

(That place sounds kind of creepy tbh)

 

(I try to not think about the dead)

 

Okay this is kind of a meh conversation. Meh conversations are needed to fill in spots where not much is supposed to happen. Usually it shouldn't be in the main story as well you are supposed to pay attention. The other thing I want to talk about is actually asking someone to please shrink the bloody text because it is so freaking annoying having to wait for a single word or two to pop up all the time to the point I now skip them. I have skipped 100s of images due to this problem and generally just assume what the NPCs say in these. This isn't anybody's fault, but could someone please invest in editing the text and how it's presented...please. I also know the autoskip thing has been screwing with it lately as well which reminds me...

 

I don't talk about speedup and autoskip much since they have their ups and downs. I think they're needed and a staple in video games due to the concept gameplay > story (I actually argue the other way around if the quality of story reaches a certain point), but these nifty features really do help skip rewatching scenes or catch back up to where you were at since there will be a boss that kicks your ass hard in a video game (like Kingdom Hearts with the whole Riku fight). It's also good to help with lag testing interesting enough. Random fact but to help with lower end computers, I unplug my laptop from the charger which is set to energy save mode...which is how I know if an area is really bad or not. Anyways, Pokemon.

 

(Oh great, it's the third to last person I want to see right now. If you're wondering about the other two, it's Melia and Crescent)

 

(You remind of Barry how you just charge ahead without thinking)

 

(I still wonder how do people travel to Gearen City)

 

(IT WAS THE LADY WASN'T IT. I'LL KILL YOU!)

 

[Insert pic of Commander and Aelita walking to the Nurse]

 

Oh another mini rant that I want to talk about. Romance. It's and easy to learn, hard to master concept. There's this whole craze about dating and getting your favorite girl that's a trend for many, many games and I've seen the whole topics about letting the player date one of them. Fire Emblem Awakening is one of the core games I can point to that have caused a rise in demand, but it's been there since like Gen III consoles and probably further back. Point is that I don't think it should be slapped onto every video game just so that the producers can make an extra 100k (If you want that you'd go Graphics > Gameplay > Story as priorities...yes, I've been around long enough I know what does and doesn't work in the money making world). I would not be against a little romance in Rejuv based on the girls, but pretty much it'd be kept to a scene or two and not be a central focus or selling point. Something like Tales of Symphonia (man, I am using that game a lot recently). It wouldn't be marriage or anything leading but something subtle. If you want me to go into that more, I definitely could.

 

(These guys make Trump look like a humble guy)

 

(They're probably bored and have nothing to do...since they drive everyone away)

 

(I will take all 3 of you down right here and right now if you don't shut up)

 

(It's a shelter from extremists...and somebody forgot to spray the ghost repellent. I blame Mike over there.)

 

(Nurse Joy did nothing wrong)

 

(Oh come on! That was the perfect moment for a burn. She's a purple, physics defying haired girl who's an airhead. Bubble brain is my fave.)

 

(I'm single and alone. I'd rather have your problem right about now. AELITA YOU DON'T COUNT!)

 

[One anticlimatic battle later]

 

(But...I was just getting started)

 

And thus they made a tactical retreat (like little babies)

 

(I think freaks is a better word. They have grey hair and are under the age of probably 18)

 

(You know, how on earth did Aelita decide to only take initiative now when this has been going on for a while. Think of all the children you could've saved)

 

Seriously surprised the hanging thing hasn't come up...it's almost like it was never supposed to happen

 

(I volunteer Mike. He seems like a good guy.)

 

(How can it get worse than murdering people?)

 

(...Why is everyone burdening their problems onto me?)

 

(........I think the reason this is like this is because the Narcissa outside her gym didn't exist before)

 

(Thanks for explaining how to find a one way path)

 

And thus we go find the gym leader...

 

(Or not...)

 

(What is up with these people and threesomes?)

 

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I really like how the inside of the Pokemon Center looks here and wish more PCs had custom designs. Don't know how the whole trees stuff works but I ain't judging.

 

(.........I'm 3 feet away from a girl trained in the martial arts on top of two witnesses right next to me with one being a vendor I bought a lot of items from and likely doubled his income for the month and the other is a traveling breeder. I also have in my hand a powerful swordmaster and a mime who can create barriers. I also have a poisonous flaming lizard, a kung-fu giant panda, a dog made of rocks, and a giant rat who probably has a lot of diseases from living in Gearen. This battle is well into my favor)

 

(*crackling noises* This isn't my first rodeo without Pokemon. Let this be known as the day Commander died trying to teach kids a lesson)

 

(Sadly, that's not my Pangoro)

 

(I think his name is Chuck)

 

(Man, guys around here have it tough)

 

(I came in at the wrong time)

 

(Oh Goldenwood, I wondered what condition it was in)

 

(Well...that's depressing)

 

(I like orbs. They give me new people to use...and a bald man holding a potion)

 

(Wait...that man has hair longer than me. I wonder how long it took him to grow that out)

 

(Shit, I've been detected. Abort the mission. Abort the abort!)

 

(Then why is the door unlock? And why wasn't there a sock on the door?)

 

(I uhh...kind of already knew all of that...except the alien problem.)

 

(How would he...not questioning it...)

 

(It's a giant hole in the wall. How could you miss it?)

 

(Today really is National burden all your problems on Commander Day)

 

(If I see a glowing flasher thing, I'm out yo!)

 

(So I'm a MiB member? I've had weirder jobs so it's cool.)

 

(Name's Commander. I'm a big CHA. That stands for Certified Hobo Affiliate)

 

(I'm actually from Orre. Though I spend a lot of time in Tarnelia)

 

(...Did Team Xen blow it up...again?)

 

(I uhhh....picked the first one)

 

(How do you know there's a threat in Goldenwood Forest?)

 

(I don't know, you tell me)

 

(Yay! I get to fight aliens from other planets now)

 

(I get you. People ask me if I'm blind all the time)

 

(I wish I could see through my Pokemon. I also wish I knew what they were thinking. On second thought, that might not be such a good idea given one's named Joker)

 

(Couldn't you just...take one of those two along with you?)

 

(It's a giant ball on top of a lake. It's kind of hard to miss even for a blind man)

 

(...I may have already defeated it once)

 

(I guess Goldenwood will have to wait. I mean if Aelita dies...I still win!)

 

(I guess we can do that)

 

(This will be a cakewalk!)

 

(THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A CAKEWALK!)

 

I kind of forget what happened in this fight but I was getting my butt kicked hard. I think Walter defeated Araquanid after Ratigan weakened it with Super Fang

 

(Thankfully I had Loewe with me)

 

I don't really remember the fight but it took me by surprise out of nowhere seeing those two Pokemon. It was a fun fight nonetheless but a little overwhelming if you weren't expecting it at all.

 

(Oh I did have a pic of Loewe finishing it off)

 

(I already know where it is....it's not hard to find)

 

(It's a giant Gyarados. The only two people who could tame it are Terra and Saphira)

 

(I assume you're referring to the people who are trying to murder me)

 

And now we get into an epic rematch against the D...

 

(That was anti-climatic)

 

Pretty much what you see here is what happened

 

(How'd you get your hair in a ponytail like that?)

 

(There's werewolves around...I think it'll take longer than you think)

 

(Probably for the best considering where it leads to)

 

(....I want your shades. Give them to me and we have a deal...)

 

(Gotcha. I can't wait to use these babies later!)

 

(It's cool. All I wanted were the shades)

 

(Rangers...does that mean C is actually the Green Ranger?)

 

(See you around Cra...I mean mysterious agent C)

 

And that's a good stopping point. Not a lot to talk about here other than it's a lot of meh stuff. Only really bad thing was honestly how over the top the citizens are to the point you could mistake them for the mob. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this run and somehow I'm surprised I haven't run out of things to put under screen caps yet.

[mario98]

so you talked about the romances, but... whenever theres a thread like that it seems only male people play the game, im male btw, but i always pick the female character and theres just no options for her, like who, ren???????????? plus its a pokemon game with silent protagonist, wtf are people smoking to want romance...go play ORAS and fanfic about female MC and brendan...so yeah, just my 2 cents on the matter

[Commander]

On 10/12/2017 at 1:29 PM, mario98 said:

so you talked about the romances, but... whenever theres a thread like that it seems only male people play the game, im male btw, but i always pick the female character and theres just no options for her, like who, ren???????????? plus its a pokemon game with silent protagonist, wtf are people smoking to want romance...go play ORAS and fanfic about female MC and brendan...so yeah, just my 2 cents on the matter

So here's the thing about the male stuff. The typical gamer in the developers market's eyes is primarily male. The thing about males is that they tend to skew towards well action and visuals over character complexity and lore. Rejuv is designed a wee bit too much towards this so I think people are quick to judge that the purpose of it would be to marry your favorite character, but that's far, far from that idea when I said it could work and I'd welcome it. I just want you to take a moment and forget everything you know about Pokemon and stereotypes while I explain this (I actually went back to Tales of Symphonia and was just amazed at some of the stuff it did).

 

Romance is based around levels of affection going from stage to stage. The closer you get to someone, the more you tend to trust them. This is a useful tool as people are layered characters. The first layer tends to be either one about things they are willing to share with most people or people that they kind of know. The second layer is information they only share with good friends and people they trust. The amount of layers depend on the person but there is one layer that only someone is only willing to share with very close people such as someone who is potentially a lover. You don't hide things from people you love (otherwise that's not true love). There's another possible layer of things you would never share with anyone but that one tends to be hit or miss. I learned this from Sociology \o/.

 

So the thing about Rejuvenation that differs from many fan-games is that you spend long periods of time with certain characters like Venam, Aelita, Melia, and I guess Saki. Sadly, the cast surrounding this pretty much only females (if Ren was more involved and less passive I'd include him but you don't get a lot of time around him) so sadly this would mostly apply to the gals. We could dive more into male options, but that's not the point I'm making. This is a system you would spend time with the characters getting to know them better. Spending time or investing into certain characters really should reward you and it'd kind of be cool to be rewarded with a character who seemed tropey or generic at first to have depth and character. Zelos from Tales of Symphonia is a perfect example and no....you can't have him and Lloyd fall in love with each other (hilarious enough Zelos even makes a joke about it in the sequel). It doesn't have to be written as the girl falling in love with the guy scenario but taking that frame is very useful if your characters feel dull.

 

I said keep the romance moments to the scene or two since the focus should be on character development. Do I think it would be a good idea for Jan to create or work on a system like that? Probably not if my long series of rants are about how weak the story (mostly characters are), but I am not against it because it could actually really help the game with one of its weakest areas. It would also require adding many more little events with more dialogue choices to influence it. It's a lot of effort but planning would be the biggest part since well...characters have layers.

 

I'm also not a ding-dong trying to convince you of anything since most people who pick up a Pokemon game don't care about the story. This just gave me a good opportunity to go more into depth about the concept (still far from a full on discussion). It's also an easy to learn, hard to master concept which is why so many people like yourself hate it or just outright deny wanting anyone to attempt it. And also I wouldn't try throwing the term fan-fiction around especially in a negative sense because by supporting this game you are supporting fan-fiction as fan-games are a part of the same group, just a different medium hence the term fan-game to label it.

 

And just a tad bit of advice which is gonna come off as hypocritical but it is better to focus on trying to find enjoyment in new things or even things you generally don't like than to see something as entirely bad. That's how I can play games that are really bad or have major faults and even enjoy them. It also helps with work when you're having a bad day or have to work a really bad job. I'm pretty critical in this Rejuvenation Run as well I'm fully analyzing it after I played through it. I'm not super focused on this stuff when I'm first playing but I do screen cap things I think would be good to look back on.

 

If I keep this up, the responses will be longer than the actual chapter.

 

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Chapter 23: The rest of these segments don't have shades as I didn't think about that during the time

 

I need to get more creative titles...just like my captions

 

(I would have died laughing if one of those signs said Squidward)

 

(With that vending machine, you could kind of live here tbh)

 

(It's not really an ordinance)

 

(Would the fact you guys are willing to murder children suffice?)

 

(Yes, doing bad things is bad and you shouldn't do bad things as it's bad)

 

Seriously, why hasn't the hung thing popped up at all. It's not even like it doesn't have a good time to be brought up because it really has had a lot of good times and a good reason to push for change.

 

(They burned a building down. That happens like...all the time on Cinnabar Island)

 

(I wonder if there's a bench around because I think I might need it)

 

(That's what happens when you get older)

 

(That's one way to say you're lonely)

 

(So you're a ghost trainer and like opera does that make you the...no...I'll save that joke for later)

 

(Fun fact: people watch opera in different languages than their native one quite often)

 

(Uhhh....kind of?)

 

(I'm not going to question it)

 

(Well that's the fastest we've gotten to a gym battle yet)

 

(And now Aelita is causing us issues...again)

 

(What? Aelita is evolving...)

 

([Plays evolution music])

 

(Congratulations! Your Aelita evolved into a nagging granny!)

 

(Yep, I'm almost positive the elder is throwing a party in Sheridon after getting rid of her)

 

(This is one of the few times I wish the protag could speak...don't I say that a lot?)

 

(You'd think people would've been bothering her more with these issues than just Aelita)

 

(And we could've avoided the earful if Aelita knew how to shut up)

 

(I...the irony here is that she's the daughter of a sensei and should know better)

 

(I...guess that's a suitable response, but a leader can't just instantly make a place change)

 

(Why didn't this part come first?)

 

(Or this one)

 

Kind of think this could've been slightly touched up a bit because I think she should explain that she doesn't hold power over people to control them.

 

(Aren't they already doing that...this storyline just gets more nonsensical by the minute)

 

Okay the problem here is that the events that caused all of this happened a while back iirc and I think it's like years ago and not the point of Goldenwood forest. If it happened then, I could see people rioting a bit, but it does bother me that this is kind of being viewed that the citizens of goldenwood are like wild animals who take action before thinking. Animals. I could see them playing the blame game and being more aggressive but a riot is a tad extreme. Then again, everything so far is very over the top for simple building being lit on fire.

 

(I seriously think this section needs to tone it down)

 

(Last time I tried protecting someone, he died while you passed out on the floor)

 

(You got destroyed in seconds by a Mewtwo...that's definitely accountability)

 

(Oh thank the heavens we're not listening to Aelita. She's highly skilled in passing out)

 

(Yay, gym badge time!)

 

(Oh god it's the man who's wearing the funky beret)

 

I now have pictured Geara as an edgy french guy saying stuff like "Bonjour, motherfuckers"

 

Maybe if I ever do another run through I'll livestream it reading the lines in the voices I did for this run.

 

(Yep...my idea really does connect it all together)

 

(Hey, that's my line)

 

(Ze woman needs to shutteth ze mouth)

 

(Haunzer, make sure ze can speak no more!)

 

('Ey Narcy is a great nickname for her. Thanks, Aelita)

 

(THAT'S NOT HOW THE MOVE WORKS!)

 

([Inhales a deep breath] You are ze Commander, no? Ze came into our home and ruined everything! Everything! How ze appeared I do not know but ze boss iz pissed!)

 

(I'm going to get sick of doing this very soon)

 

(Zey call me Geara; one of ze finest executives of Zen...Zen...ze knows what I speak of)

 

Somewhere a french man is face palming very hard while another is moving me to the top of their kill list.

 

(Wii don't appreciate zor little performance in ze mountain therefore I want to watch you DIE!)

 

And now my entire viewership is probably wondering why they ever took me serious in the first place and are even watching this run for

 

(Ze the place is no more than little ashes no thanks to zoo)

 

(And did ze really think ze could just walk away like little girl all happy and jolly? No! Little girl should burn with mountain)

 

Am I writing a Russian or Frenchmen? Maybe he's both :X

 

(Pretty sure Geara would be choking me if he saw what I was doing)

 

(But I can't bring little girl to mountain because it is too much work. So instead, ze two here shall speak NO MORE!)

 

I'm currently questioning why the hell I even started doing this French thing. But ze shall finish ze scene before ze gives up. Also, I'm not drunk but now I wish I was.

 

(And it shall be YOU who zey blame for ze girls. Ho! Hohohoho!)

 

Also the only thing I know about stereotypical french I learned from Unforgotten Realms.

 

(Oh thank god, somebody's coming)

 

(Oh ze horror! I would take care of these dogs, but ze boss told me "Don't be seen" so zi will activate zi ninja skills. [Randomly puts up one of those fake trees the ninjas use in RSE])

 

(I...I thought your revenge was killing girls...wait, before you go I need to ask: are you gay?)

 

(Zo no! Zi forgot to return my balls)

 

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a DM from Azery cringing really hard about me ruining his favorite character in this game. This might actually top the whole SEC thing as worst chapter I've ever made in the run so far.

 

(Wait! This isn't what it looks like...okay it's exactly what it looks like)

 

(I'm not...they kicked me out of the asylum for a reason)

 

(You guys...wait who's Sariah? I didn't know these NPCs had a name)

 

(I just realized my overworld sprite has no mouth...or nose...no wonder why they're so quiet)

 

(But they aren't dead...nevermind touching people gives you the death penalty here...and stealing too)

 

(Ze lady of luck haz favored me well)

 

(Does this happy me? NO!)

 

Please tell me this is almost over.

 

(Why don't you just hang me on that noose right there? It'll be faster)

 

(I wonder if they realize I have a dog who can control rocks...and entomb them)

 

(Ze chick is obsess with ze nutz of her mind)

 

(Wait za minute, ze said ze was headed to the tower of wisps)

 

(Zho no! Ze stupid haz contained me. Zi forgeth my mission at ze tower of wisps)

 

I'm starting to get the hang of this...which is probably a bad thing. I swear I'm not drunk.

 

(Haz ze time of begonning caused ze memory to fuzzies?)

 

Now I'm just making stuff up

 

(Vi wonder if ze prize of greatness is still in the tower of wisps)

 

(If zoe, Zi shall be jolly for great power I gain for ze hurt I seek thy enemies)

 

This is starting to become fun. Someone please stop me before it's too late.

 

And...crap a whole section got corrupted so you get Commander's abridged version of it after I find it...

 

Not dead yet girl: Yo shithead, I'm dumb enough to speak out now and tell you I heard everything even though you clearly are more than capable of killing me here and right now. But plot armor protects me and is going to let me stop and ruin all your plans.

 

And that's it? Bummer you know what how about one more for good time's sake...

 

Frencera: Ha! Ze little girl thinks ze can put a stop to zwe, but little does zee little girl know I want her to zave ze Commander so Zwi zall be za one to kill zem!

 

This is why I don't write accents on my characters. I'm only going to go a little bit further because I fear the French, Russians, and possibly Germans may be trying to track me down as we speak. But I'm probably not going to do that for Geara in any other chapter because I'd probably run out of things to say (can't say it'll scare away the viewers when there aren't any :P). But let's talk about Geara for a moment. He's basically all edge and nothing else. And since edge is an overused word, I'd best describe him as a character just made to look cool and try to be a badass but in reality is just an over the top emo kid with a lot of daddy issues. I mean he's more interesting to watch than Madelis but he's not an interesting character to dissect or change because there's not much to him unlike Madelis who had a lot of potential. Now back to what I'm doing....

 

(And that's the story of how I lost my virginity)

 

That lines up a bit too well...

 

(Not sure if flirting with me or trying to intimidate me)

 

(We all know how this is going to end)

 

Man, this is giving me flashbacks to Mother 3. That moment was just so sad.

 

(...Is that guy's name Guy or is he just a guy? I'll just call him Jag to be safe)

 

(I'm not crying!)

 

(I'm picturing Mosley now as an 8-year-old honcho in charge of a local gang)

 

(Did...he really fall asleep that fast?)

 

(Instead of a gun though, Mosley uses a giant bear...I'm starting to really think she is a gangster)

 

(Oh hey it's Chuck. Hi Chuck!)

 

(I'd like to see Chuck chuck Jag...I should've named him Chuck, but he did already chuck Chuck)

 

(Yay! I get out of jail free now!)

 

(At least she has manners...for a thief)

 

If this was a Final Fantasy RPG, Mosley would be a thief, Aelita would be a monk, Venam would be a Blue Mage, Zetta would be a Summoner, Melia would be a Black Mage, Ren would be a Dark Knight, I'd probably be a Paladin, and Geara would be a Necromancer. It'd be fun labeling jobs for all the characters in this game. Narcy is a dancer btw.

 

>>>Funny how my story changes later in another chapter

 

(Petition to change its name to Chuck)

 

(Something tells me you shouldn't leave that bear alone with that man...they might lock eyes)

 

(Oh crap, I forgot you didn't introduce yourself yet. I guess I spoiled that one)

 

([Flips hair] Don't kid yourself. Everyone loves the Commander)

 

(So you were spying on me. Why did...oh yeah they're trying to kill you too)

 

(A half-decent person. That's okay because I totally didn't do that at the beginning)

 

(I guess he would be into dead people)

 

(Well dead people can be important)

 

(This is probably the first and only time I'll ever hear that saying. Are you country....a cowgirl gangster. I like it! "You dawg, this hood ain't big enough for the both of us)

 

(Or we could just wait for Ms. Leader of this town to wake up like normal people)

 

(They ain't dead...somehow)

 

(But it's night though)

 

(Who taught you your manners? I want to meet them and...possibly marry them if they're divorced)

 

(Go back to the woods where you belong, Sariah)

 

(Tonight there's a 20% chance of it pouring heretics)

 

(The cowgirl gangster strikes again)

 

(Why didn't she do this when she was cornered?)

 

Yeah, yeah, I also know the Pangoro chased Sariah, but it sounds cooler for Chuck to chuck

 

(Oh Chuck can gladly feast on anyone in this town)

 

(And stealing wouldn't. Huh? You learn something new everyday)

 

(That kind of sounds like Ren's sister...spoilers)

 

(I would guess it was Madame X, but I doubt it'd be her. I don't actually know if this character will even pop up)

 

(Okay maybe we'll meet this character)

 

(Wow this NPC is really nice)

 

(This NPC not so nice)

 

So now after all this time we actually get to see....

 

(A Shadow Pokemon we can't capture)

 

I'm really not a fan of this whole Shadow Pokemon thing because just how irrelevant it really is. I use one Shadow Pokemon on my team and only two in total so far. Some are good, but they are just kind of meh or hard to utilize.

 

As for Mossely, I actually originally thought she was a guy about the player's age and actually really liked the whole idea of a teenage rebel on the run. Kind of a bummer she's just a little girl but she's a tad better than the average character in this game. I like her because she has interesting dialogue and is different, but there's nothing that really wows me. Probably all I gotta say as this ended up being a very weird episode and next time we'll deal with this:

 

(Whatever happened to the shrine...also how did these door even open since there's no power here?)

[DemICE]

Today was a format day. So i sat and read all the part of the run since my last post in one sitting while the whole file transfer and installations were going on.    I wish i had kept notes on which i wanted to comment, because they were too many.  Oh well. Ze latesht zegment made mah night a merry one

 

Well about the Gym Leader position and its duties,  it actually varies between games/mangas/fanfics.   In some, they can count as equal to town chiefs, managing pretty much everything.  In others, they are like what you described.  Either is viable in my book.  And seeing how they are portrayed in reborn/rejuv,  i have the impression that while they do not actually run their towns/disctricts,  they do act as some kind of vigilante force when things out of the ordinary happen.  Venam could be excused for deciding to act upon discovering an unforseen mansion inside her area's sewers, but her character is so messed up that it invalidates everything. 

I still like venam tho lol dont judge me xD

[Zargerth]

@Commander In this chapter, Geara is actually Russian/French man named Gregor (Gregor is actually surprisingly suitable name for plot reasons you'll discover soon enough). All he needs is something to drink while delivering his lines.

 

Team Xen admins are turning out to be a colorful bunch at this rate.

[Commander]

@DemICE Huh, I guess you have a point there. Also there's nothing wrong with liking a bad or bland character (Venam ain't bland...but you know what I mean). Laura from LoH Cold Steel is one of the blandish characters I've seen but she uses a giant sword and is an amazingly good party member which is why I really like her.

 

On 10/16/2017 at 5:18 AM, Zargerth said:

Team Xen admins are turning out to be a colorful bunch at this rate.

We almost have enough to meet all the colors of the rainbow

 

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Chapter 24: Supereara Meets the Badmander

Previously on Rejuvenation, Commander went into a hole. Little did he know Geara already got to it first.

 

Also I did a spin to decide if I'll do normal or Frenchera captions. I'll let the cursing and screaming in the background tell you which one it turned out to be.

 

(Zis place haz forgotten by me in long time)

 

(Za beauty. Zey destroyed it.)

 

If I wrote a fanfiction of Rejuv, I'd probably end up making it so bad, it's good....even though I'm kind of doing that now.

 

(Oho! Ze little baby of ze poor family did not want milking from ze big moma. So zey came here to cry on mi shoulder.)

 

By the way, I have absolutely no idea where these lines come from at all.

 

(Ze baby haz decided to be big boy. Oh, how marvelous. Now zi can make you cry to big moma, no?)

 

(Zee face. It remains unmoved. Zow is zis pozzible? )

 

(It makes ze man in me uncomfortable. Zi needed ze person of adulthood)

 

(But Greaga does not care if little baby walk around ze place so long as little baby no touch Greaga)

 

(Zho gamez we shall play)

 

(Zhi shall be working in zi bottom of my laboratories)

 

I always thought it was spelled labratory. The more you know.

 

(Za iron. Ze call zy name to steam ze perfection zof zis zuit of za plan)

 

I'm just going to point out if I was actually serious about Geara being foreign or weird, I'd probably remove the zes zho ze zho mize but we are being silly here. Something also tell me that Geara will now be the fan favorite of the run.

 

(Zhar-le-la-la-la-la-neh, zu you hear ze magnificent voize of ze overlord?)

 

(Replace shouting with singing here...oh god let's not make a music chapter ever)

 

It was at this moment...I knew I fu..rgot the chapter title. If you know what the title is referencing off the top of your head, I'd be very, very impressed.

 

(Also...nobody cares)

 

(Woman...zee knows not what ze speaks. Now close ze moving walls of impenetration)

 

This was a missed opportunity of having the doors close before Geara got by pissing him off.

 

(Zoon Zi will dig deep down into ze laboratories)

 

Ze rating of zis run haz from suitable for little baby slowly to big sweat of ze manly men. I think I'm in the acceptance stage now...send help.

 

(You can't be a loser if you're technically winning)

 

(Nobody knows what he's really saying either)

 

(Best line in the entire game. Mosley for best character)

 

(Only American Goths trying to be French or me impersonating the former match his description so you're fine, kid)

 

By the end of this run, I will probably offend every possible ethic group.

 

(Oh good adventuring...why is there smoke down here? Did Snoop Dog crash here for a while?)

 

(Because it's totally smart and convenient for an easy way to unlock a security door meant to keep others out)

 

I am glad that the whole pick a side thing is gone and for all the old scenes changed. It wasn't that big of a deal to change though so I get it and don't get it at the same time. The best way to describe this is take some McDonald's fries. Sometimes those things end up being so raw or bad that you can barely eat them. You can put salt on them or add ketchup to make them more edible, but that doesn't mean they're good then. Just more bearable. So that brings in the obvious question of "Why don't people just make new fries?" In a restaurant, that's an easy fix as they'll just give you new ones. In a released game, it depends. Truly fixing a problem requires more than just simple dialogue changes. Character changes are a chain reaction so changing them in one place requires you to change them to match for every appearance. I'll get more into this concept when we get past the gym battle (or maybe I'll forget).

 

(This is a very Sirius diary)

 

(I also forgot these were in but I think this is the second one)

 

(Zho no! Spoilers!)

 

(You know what's really funny, the people of the town should've easily figured this out that a base was here)

 

(I...well technically you could. Pretty sure I linked an article about Radio Control in a COGA)

 

(And suddenly my interest in this died...Cyrus 2.0)

 

(Madman don't have to act insane y'know. I mean I act insane, but I ain't mad)

 

(This is the whole whatever that thing that had a very low chance of creating a black hole that could possibly destroy the earth machine was situation. Someone please tell me what the billions of dollars machine was again. Something to crash particles at the speed of light or something)

 

(And the result was a failure. But your burning desires live on)

 

(Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall)

 

When Rejuv goes really well in a certain direction, there's always something that just brings it all the way back down. All I have to say here is "Really?" If you ever write a plot that has depth and meaning don't have characters do these two things: take over the world and recreate the world to become God. These are not just cliches but honestly are just really stupid. The taking over the world concept is the ideal that someone is so powerful that they can enslave every being in the world. First problem is that the person would need a self-destructive mind and a never ending power hunger. Fancy for generic and predictable unless handled by a really, really good writer. Playing God is a whole different realm. In fact, I've never been wowed by one. It's just a simple "this world isn't what I want so I will make my own". It's not interesting and predictable. You need a lot of time to really work with these cliches to make them interesting.

 

I don't set very high bars for Rejuv, but honestly I know Jan could do better than this. There's so many drives and ideas that could go off of it. Maybe he wanted to turn the distortion world into a paradise of his vision. Maybe Giratina's blood is able to cure diseases or prevent them altogether. I'd even accept something like learning to control Giratina to kill all the terrible people in the world to improve it. I'm actually having a really hard time thinking about stuff since Giratina kind of the Pokemon that almost ended the world in Gen IV. Bleh, let's move on.

 

(Oh yeah I also did all the doors)

 

(I don't remember being able to open this door which makes me...wait a minute)

 

Why are there x marks all over the place? Don't tell me Team Xen secretly was behind this as well.

 

(You do that, kid)

 

(Either Geara was really holding back when choking her or she has built up immunity wearing tight dresses to wake up that fast...then again it's been like 3 weeks)

 

(You guys did destroy the only place to buy stuff in town so...understandable circumstances)

 

(If she starts attacking you, kid, I'm running the heck outta here)

 

(Oh that's a smooth transition. If you were a boy, you'd be getting all the ladies right now)

 

(We don't speak her name)

 

(She's been asleep for weeks...not that I am surprised. A pebble could knock her out for like 4 days)

 

(I'm almost positive it's Snoop Dog's Secret Stash)

 

(Best not to tell her. She might try burning it)

 

(How do you even...Team Xen...I think I might be high man)

 

(There are things growing here that make a lot of green)

 

(Y'know she never did say when the tower burned to the ground)

 

(I found buttons)

 

(It's not even worth the breath)

 

(No, past the impassible Red Door)

 

(That's...the weirdest way to say moma I've seen yet)

 

(Just like me with this game)

 

I don't have much to say as there's nothing really good but nothing really bad here either. Also, I will always now look at this place as Snoop dogs hideout. It's even got moles and rats all over.

 

(I really don't understand this change though)

 

(Ah Eli, I missed your voice so much)

 

(Maybe it's you who has it wrong. Ever though of that)

 

(That guy has more issues than a 72 year old man smoking weed while drinking beer in a speedo chasing after polar bears on a pogo stick in Canada)

 

If you somehow manage to find a picture of that, I will...I don't know change my avatar and username to Princess Daisy for 3-4 Months.

 

(Where the heck did they hide? In a closet?)

 

(Still better than the kids trying to hang a little girl)

 

(I don't like this line. Doesn't really fit here or at least could be better)

 

(Finally a battle. It's been a while since I had one of those)

 

(So this part was fine but...)

 

(It was at this moment...he knew he fucked up)

 

Yep, Walter died and I died very, very slowly to a certain Gyarados.

 

Round 2:

 

 

This strategy was to make sure I could safely switch out Walter/SEC in case the Rhydon and Tangrowth combo is out

 

Walter just kind of Rock Slide killed Gyara before dealing with this pain in the butt

 

Yep, I did it with Loewe the legend

 

(You know, I used to like this, but now it's getting kind of tiring)

 

(Don't you need a Hey first...my puns are getting worse and worse)

 

(These guys are more stally than the Pyrous Mountain grunt)

 

(That reminds me to speak of a scene later on)

 

(Yeah, there's a lot to talk about here)

 

(Still love that face palm animation)

 

(Just like an olympic pole jumper)

 

(Would've used damn here instead of stupid)

 

So here's a thing about Eli and Sharon. We've seen them three times yet they aren't any different before. They even used a gag joke 3 times in a very small time frame (when working with humor, that's a really, really bad thing to try and do). I'm not going to go into humor as I'd actually have to read up on it a bit more to make sure I know what I'm talking about. So Sharon is basically Taka from Reborn. Take though has motives for staying with Meteor despite not wanting to, but Sharon is more explicit she doesn't want to be with Xen or really want to do anything (laziness which the later I'd love to see more in Pokemon games). Seriously, someone should make a paired grunts fight be a scene where the other guy just says "Fuck it" and watch his partner get creamed. So the thing about Taka is that we only see him in 3 major parts of the story (technically 5 appearances) but the last one has a confrontation with Titania which is one of the most controversial things which people feel all over the place for. Personally, the more I look at it, the more I say it's one of the best segments story wise in Reborn. We actual see more to Taka and his internal conflict with Titania being blunt but true to a degree. I can't actually understand Sharon and what she's trying to do. If she was attached to the player I'd understand, but she's really not. I know they're comic relief characters but it's just a repeat of the Xen Lab.

 

(Salutations, person who works at the Wispy Radio Tower)

 

(I'd make a sex joke here, but I've overused them)

 

(...why did I have to make the caption above...cannot unsee)

 

(Now I probably thought of the weirdest Crack Ship for Rejuv to date: Narcissa's Husband x Snoop Dog)

 

I gotta stop with the Weed jokes now. That'd also mean he was cheating on Narcissa for Snoop Dog...which is why...she burned the tower down all along. It all makes sense.

 

(I'm just gonna stop you right there and list off the 100s of people who did things to change the world as we speak. Otto Von Bismarc, Albert Einstein, Donald Trump, Mr. Rogers, Shigure Miyamoto, and the guy who invented Flappy Birds)

 

(You did turn a town into a bunch of terrorists)

 

(Yes, that is correct)

 

(That is false. Some people won't change no matter what)

 

(I...I am going to rant on this)

 

(Oh I am really going to go into rant mode: full ignition)

 

(GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!)

 

So when it says that saying certain words is key, which is from Mark Twain "The difference between the almost right word & the right word is really a large matter--it's the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning." I agree and disagree with that statement. It has to do with impact and using certain words creates a better sensation over using a dull or stale word which leaves no impact. This does not mean using fancy or high level vocab like they teach you in high school. Which is really funny because despite never getting an A in English ever, I usually had the story that was the teacher's favorite when we needed to create a story. That's my way of saying, "Even if it's perfect or better written, that does not mean it's more enjoyable than someone else's."

 

That's what really bothers me about this obsession with words. In fact, you are taught that non-verbal cues are more important than word choice in school. People's actions speak out so much more than word choice. When you talk about someone in the army, you don't talk about the things they say at first, but their courage, strength, and bravery. In fact, you can actually tell a lot about a writer by the things they write in a book. At first it's a bit hard to understand but when you get more used to it you start to get ideas. The secret to getting people's attention and changing the world is an appeal to emotion. Emotion is stronger than reasoning. I could go on, but I want to get to Geara before I go to sleep.

 

(Oh yeah I leveled up Loewe 1 level)

 

(Now he's actually more helpful than he was)

 

(Sadly they are hard to find in this game)

 

(Yes, yes they are, kid)

 

(Mossley...is sadly the most intelligent character in the game so far)

 

You know if Mossley was Melia, she would have freaking fooled everyone. I wouldn't have guessed or expected it. Oh spoilers.

 

(....Why do I have the feeling you're just saying that to make yourself feel better?)

 

(Daddy issues I presume)

 

(If I had a dollar for every pointless line of dialogue telling us where to go, I'd have a big wad of cash right now)

 

I know writing game dialogue is hard, but c'mon. You don't need to state every obvious detail to the audience.

 

(......uhhh yeah we do. The journals said Giratina so obviously we're fighting O2 while using the light arrows to pierce Metal Face...wrong game)

 

I swear if any of these out there things I say exist please show pics

 

(Thank you Mosely, you da best)

 

(Didn't I call you Narcy already?)

 

But before we do that...we have one more journal...which might summon a rant. I don't know.

 

(Oh, this is part 2)

 

(I don't want a perfect world. That'd be too many Subakis to count)

 

(Who the heck even is this guy?)

 

(......Uhhh)

 

That was a little anti-climatic given parts 1 and 3

 

(Looks like the weed is...didn't I say I'd stop that?)

 

(Narcissa burned it down. Calling it now)

 

(You are trapped with a mon that can travel through rifts...You know what, I'll just shut up now)

 

(Can't you also teleport with an Abra or...use a different kind of Pokemon to escape?)

 

(In a realistic situation, I'm pretty sure you could survive this so long as the floors don't collapse on you. Carbon Monoxide rises, right?)

 

I did a quick little estimate and they'd be 30-40 feet underground in an area that likely really couldn't catch on fire. None of the area really looks damaged from fires and mostly just looks like deterioration. Unless a machine went up in flames, they should have lived this. Maybe a nerd could figure it out and bust that one for me. Also Carbon-Monoxide does rise very slowly.

 

(Of course it is)

 

And now for the reason you are all still reading this chapter:

 

(Thinking on it, Giratina does kind of look like a Rooster)

 

(Zat iz not just any Chicken. Zat is Giratina, ze mighty chicken deity of frying)

 

I know I ask for many things, but will someone please make fanart Geara wearing a beret saying one of the stupid things I've said so far. I'd love you forever...and not in the sexual kind of way. I can't help it, I'm sorry dirty jokes just come to me...gdi

 

(Zi already mentioned ze screenie in ze previous screenie)

 

(Ze chicken haz been hostage of man for many a decades. Does ze with fashion sense of chimpanzee know of facts?)

 

(Wait Decades? How freaking old is Narcissa...you mean this whole mess has been going on for more than 20 years...)

 

(Now ze three ladies behind mi will have hearts aflutter az zi tell stories of hearts aflutter)

 

(Zin a time zat ze creator did not specify at all but tiz likely more the 20 years ago, zere was a crazy douche zoo though ze was smart, but had brains of lackings)

 

(Ze name is in all zee bloody books. Unlike ze filth in front of mi, zi can read)

 

(As zi was zaying, zis man was crazy and wanted to do the stupidest of crazies)

 

(Ze wanted a world zat basically was the same except he created it...or zomething stupid like hiz face on everything. Zeriously, ze had za wife who loved zim zo much zee let him spend many a nights in ze bazement of zis place. No man iz zat lucky and zould trade it away or risk lozing wife that good for stupid world he grow bored of in week.)

 

(Ze world would be abzolute dizaster. Even if ze say without gods, ze would have created making zim god. Zoo wrote zis stupid story. zey got it wrongs for many)

 

(Zhen after leaving rock for good, ze learned zof big chicken behind me. Zow ze did not know zof big chicken when everybody know zof big chicken zi do not know)

 

(Zen zomehow ze big chicken lived in town of treeze zat zo not make sense despite being an entity zat cannot leave zis world normally zor freely. Did ze baby forget zuch facts of known by many?)

 

(Ze found chimpanzee girl made ze pleasure of ze night to find ze big chicken even zho it would have been times of easyment to catch big chicken while no one was eyes of gazing)

 

(Zi would stop ze story of awfulness, but now ze have come zu far)

 

I feel like I'm doing more of a fawful thing than anything. You know what, the show must go on

 

(Ze convince ze lover of nightime to sell ze land of now cursed grounds zo zat ze could build tower zat play zitty rap and country music. Zat is combinations of worsenment)

 

(Zat waz all so that people zoo stupid zoo spy on suspicious man could do zupidest zof zings)

 

Did I mention I'm terrible with French?

 

(Zand zomehow zis people of jobs doing never noticed. Zeriously, zow did ze get away with zis zit zen ze waz present-a-not)

 

(Zat iz not nice. Zu stop it right now)

 

(Zat is because I need of ranting like ze baby in ze middle does)

 

(Now zat ze moment of pausing to break and digest zuch pointless of stories haz ended. Ze was a zithead)

 

(Ze captured ze chicken of means zat I cannot comprehend for zutpid zings. Seriously, zow doze ze even capture ze giant chicken without ze corn and ze balls. Zat is biggest mystery in times forever)

 

(Ze world waz pissed at zupid man so ze made barbeque of tower of zitty music)

 

I kind of wish I didn't do the zee thing. Oh well.

 

(Ze music...NO MOAR! Ze tower...NO MOAR! Ze data ze collected...NO MOAR! Ze man...NO MOAR! Ze world rejoiced in zer victory!)

 

(All waz not good. Ze great chicken waz prisoner of lostness for time of unknown due to zitty zory not giving of dates)

 

(Zat was no husband. Zat was prozotutes of research zupidity)

 

(Ze matter of importance iz...NO MOAR!)

 

(Zi have va dizeaze and ze only perscription iz MOAR blood!)

 

(Zat blood iz most specifics of blood. Blood of big baby on ze floor)

 

This is getting edgier than the Last Promise.

 

(Once big baby blood on floor, big baby be...NO MOAR!)

 

(Ze chicken here. Ze be lonely with no mate or fiend to give happy joyfulness of life fulfilled. Ze is princess of beauties)

 

I realized how disjointed this really is and doesn't really flow that well. Then again, Geara is a little messed up in the head.

 

(But ze prinze zall never come. No man shall search for chicken princess for ze bride)

 

That one does exist...

Spoiler

(Please make a bravely third)

 

(Ze chicken and zi share many things. Zi too am va princess trapped in ze castle)

 

If this were an anime, Geara would then be shown in a princess dress.

 

(Ze princess turned in to Dragon Warrior who zall slaughter all in zits path)

 

(Now zi shall give zis dragon princess warrior ze fightiest of fight)

 

(Zat is not zi name, but zis is better name zan current one)

 

(Zu call me zat name again, zur pleasure of ze night shall be...NO MOAR!)

 

(Ze story of tragedy behind ze name iz far too long to speak)

 

(Ze weirdest part of ze story is zat zi not able to release big chicken while big baby took too long to get here and should be more zan capable of zopping me from relezing ze dragon princess chicken warrior)

 

(Now we enter ze battle of ze deaths of babies)

 

I'm just gonna post the pics and you guess what happened:

 

 

 

 

 

Eh, I'll fix those images later if they don't pop up. Basically he got absolutely destroyed hard. The Sharon and Eli fight is hard, but this fight is a disappointment no matter how you look at it. No Pokemon is particularly strong and even Giratina is not all that threatening.

 

(Ze logic. Ze baby broke it)

 

(Baby no match dragon warrior chicken princess. Ze baby must be cheating)

 

(Zi speak of word zat zi do not know)

 

(Zat's it. Ze pleasure are...NO MOAR!)

 

(Yes, not since ze day zat zi do not know how many a days before)

 

(Is anyone else bothered by the giant chicken still moving?)

 

(Yes, give up your French and become American again)

 

(Zour niceness. Zit not good for Gregor.)

 

(Zall I require iz ze crushing of babies from baby smasher)

 

(Funny how she said Gregory up until now and says Geara. Not sure if error or not)

 

(I seriously just realized that Dragon Princess Warrior Chicken matches Giratina perfectly. That's amazing especially when I was just being random)

 

(Zi want nothing of zi pleasure from zu)

 

(KILL ZE BABY!)

 

(Ze baby is ze stubborn one. Ze always stop plans of greatness)

 

(I don't anyone does after this whole chapter either)

 

(Ze great chicken must join ze ball so that zi shall be with people of none...NO MOAR!)

 

(Zis is not ze end of ze tale. Zis is just prologue chapter of zory great zan ze zitty zory of ze zupid scientist of research zupidity)

 

(I wish Mosely spoke more here)

 

(Either her son or an ex-boyfriend. I wouldn't claim either though if I were her)

 

(She is smarter than Aelita and saves us the long ass explanation of torturement)

 

(How the hell does she even know what Mosley is like?)

 

(Mosely was entranced by the giant chicken. Who wouldn't be?)

 

(Or looking at the giant chicken)

 

Seriously, I don't really like that line of having her try to be mature. It's not really needed here.

 

(I think everyone has been inhaling a little bit too much of this smoke now)

 

(Yes, let's end this part soon)

 

(Funny how it's actually evening for me now)

 

(My mom is too sick to cook now. Stupid flu)

 

>>>I was actually really sick when working on this segment and barely could even stay awake

 

(I think this line would be better with just dropping then. Just saying)

 

(FINALLY I AM FREE!)

 

I'm probably not going to make it to Narcissa for Halloween but Geara is Halloween enough, right?

 

So nothing in this area is particularly good or bad, it's just okay. Having large chunks of a game being okay isn't a bad thing as it means there's less griping, but not much engagement. There's just been nothing where I say "Holy crap that was really well done!" Part of it is due to coming after Reborn since it uses some ideas and concepts to run it. The characters aren't intriguing where I want to dig deeper to learn about them. Like if Melia was Mosley, that would have been an absolutely fantastic plot twist. Maybe she was badly hurt but someone managed to use her Togepi to get away. That's a cool thing that really connects the plot more and world more. If you're wondering how I'd fix the whole certain character in next part, I'll get to that.

 

Anyways we get back to Geara. One of the ideas that my mind came up with is that what if the tower burning isn't why the village is all rattled and terroristic, but what if they associate it with another event. While people were fighting to put out the fire, a group of trainers come into town which the townsfolk asked for them to help with the Radio Tower. The trainers instead personally attack the village and set out to capture children residing in it. One of those children just happened to be Narcissa's son, Gregory. That would be a very good reason for Geara's angry attitude and hatred towards Narcissa because in a sense, she did abandon him. I feel something that awful is a bit more justified to make townsfolk be aggressive to outsiders over a terrorist burning a tower down killing people.

[DemICE]

Too bad we live in the age of cliches. Someone must be very original to not recieve the "this is cliche" treatment.

 

World domination is an okay goal for a villain who has managed to get one or more gods in their hands.  Though really when a god can be as easily caught as by throwing a ball at it, it makes me question whoever started calling those legends "gods". Even putting aside the MC who always ends up doing impossible things,  other ingame chars just  catching/controlling them legends all the time in every game really undermines the vibe they should generate. 

At least canon games never did this.  Anyone who tried to use the power of a legend, tried to do it through very special means (red/blue orbs,   cyrus' chain creations from the pixies,  the unova ceremony of the dragons accepting their heroes on their own free will, you catch my drift). Then we venture into the fangames, where..  well you know.

 

[YinYang9705]

well, I didn't find the 72 year old man smoking weed while drinking beer in a speedo chasing after polar bears on a pogo stick in Canada, but I did find an image of a guy cosplaying as alex trebek wearing some underpant that leave little to the imagineation the bulge, it speaks to me

[Zargerth]

On 29.10.2017 at 10:31 PM, Commander said:

We almost have enough to meet all the colors of the rainbow

 

[Sceptilespy]

IDK how i'd feel if Melia was Mosely. I mean, it would be cool. But as we find out later about what she does in her absence, it wouldn't really make sense for her to just be fucking around punching people with a Pangoro.

[Jk_Garchomp]

On 29/10/2017 at 4:31 PM, Commander said:

(That's...the weirdest way to say moma I've seen yet)

 

It's actually how you spell mom in french. I wonder if Jan intended this or actually meant "moma" by that.

[Commander]

On 10/30/2017 at 5:12 PM, DemICE said:

Too bad we live in the age of cliches. Someone must be very original to not recieve the "this is cliche" treatment.

 

World domination is an okay goal for a villain who has managed to get one or more gods in their hands.  Though really when a god can be as easily caught as by throwing a ball at it, it makes me question whoever started calling those legends "gods". Even putting aside the MC who always ends up doing impossible things,  other ingame chars just  catching/controlling them legends all the time in every game really undermines the vibe they should generate. 

At least canon games never did this.  Anyone who tried to use the power of a legend, tried to do it through very special means (red/blue orbs,   cyrus' chain creations from the pixies,  the unova ceremony of the dragons accepting their heroes on their own free will, you catch my drift). Then we venture into the fangames, where..  well you know.

 

Cliche is a very hard to use word due to the fact imagination comes from inspiration. A better word I should use is predictable as if I could tell you everything that'd happen in a scene without even seeing it, then it can be rather dull. Playing god is not this simple subject everybody makes it out to be (Xenoblade is closer, but only a couple games like Xenosaga really get it right) as it requires a lot of layers of character in very few words or actions. Why make a new world to rid of what? Why destroy the old one? How will this be accomplished? How will the world be maintained? If these questions cannot be answered, then it simply is a character driven by madness with little or no reason. That's a core problem with many "Comic book villains" as I'll call them. They aren't interesting and are a waste of breath.

 

Now we jump back to legendaries which the hacking community really went the wrong way with them. Legendary Pokemon simply are stories of the past passed down about these Pokemon who are so rare that some don't believe they even exist. It's the equivalence to stuff like the Egyptian God Ra or the Sphinx. The Pokemon games are built and function around these stories which many of the crime groups underestimate their power (Mostly Archie and Maxwell in this category). I stand firm with this ideal which is why I don't really involve legends all that much. I know the revolution storyline I did mostly because I was asked to. Even then they weren't merely tools and were really involved. For fun challenges or post game stuff I'm fine with bosses having legends since it technically is post story and really doesn't matter as much.

 

But the other misconception is putting the fact that Legends could mean more than powerful Pokemon. In the original 2 generations, legends and myths kind of were whether you wanted to believe it or not, but pointed towards being true. Mewtwo was made in a lab, the tower was burned down likely with Ho-Oh reviving the three dogs, and Lugia definitely had powerful wings, but the dex entry likely was exaggerated. So having trainers use legendaries in battle isn't the end of the world, but over the generations, GF has been upping the importance of their lore (then ruined it with Ultra Beasts which are just strong Pokemon who match legendaries in strength).

On 11/1/2017 at 9:25 PM, YinYang9705 said:

well, I didn't find the 72 year old man smoking weed while drinking beer in a speedo chasing after polar bears on a pogo stick in Canada, but I did find an image of a guy cosplaying as alex trebek wearing some underpant that leave little to the imagineation the bulge, it speaks to me

...I'll let the viewers decide whether or not that counts, but I really do keep to my word.

On 11/4/2017 at 5:55 PM, Sceptilespy said:

IDK how i'd feel if Melia was Mosely. I mean, it would be cool. But as we find out later about what she does in her absence, it wouldn't really make sense for her to just be fucking around punching people with a Pangoro.

I'm guessing you don't know what "the ripple effect" is. It's very similar to the "Butterfly Effect". When you take a stone and throw it into the pond, it creates ripples. These ripples do not stay in place but slowly spread out until they eventually vanish. This happens whenever you make a change in the story as it effects other parts of the story so if I changed one part, I would make sure it was coherent and fixed other parts to smooth it all out. I'm not really aiming for coherency here (I mean Geara is a French man with a Russian dialect), but just naming things that could have been done.

On 11/5/2017 at 5:56 PM, Jk_Garchomp said:

It's actually how you spell mom in french. I wonder if Jan intended this or actually meant "moma" by that.

You learn something new every day. And suddenly that made me think of Frencheara who make me think of this guy

 

Spoiler

(Pride Troopers are basically a not as cool Ginyu Force)

 

Something something moving on to the chapter

 

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Chapter 25: The PhantRen of the Opera

 

(What even is this? It looks like Rice and Spinach. I don't even get a drink)

 

(Can I have what she's eating instead?)

 

(I'd make a joke about Ilyana here but I don't even think anyone here knows who that even is)

 

(Well she's a strong independent woman. You have to know these things when you live alone)

 

(...And she was a wife as well)

 

(...I completely forgot about this)

 

I'm just going to say that this string of dialogue really is a nice touch that adds to Narcissa's character.

 

(Yes. Yes it is.)

 

Okay this is a good point to talk about something that I have kind of been hiding a bit. Chapters are obviously being delayed due to various reasons as I have school and I just started working. The biggest reason for the delay was that I got really, really sick a couple days to the point I kept passing out and sleeping which made me need to catch up on school work. I can't promise this won't be delayed for various reasons (and one some people may like and be happy about), but unless I say this run is canceled it will be ongoing. I am laying off of COGA's for the rest of the year though...which is two months. I'll leave those a surprise. Also if I feel a little grouchy, that's probably due to the fact that I still have this dang cough (and I'm stuck in a crappy hotel with very little lighting until February). I'm better now, but there's a lot of stressful things in the background.

 

 

(Hello character who contributed nothing helpful to the plot so far)

 

(Can it be canon that she was in a two month coma?)

 

(She has no idea how long she's been out...isn't this the second time this happened?)

 

I swear Aelita is the Yamcha of Rejuvenation. She does nothing but gets defeated easily.

 

(Umm...I'm pretty sure your father wants to see you not almost die at this point)

 

(I'm pretty sure he's thinking "why didn't I raise her better?" right now)

 

(I actually really like this line as well)

 

(The French aren't easy to defeat...or was that the Russians?)

 

(...I want to like you, Aelita, but I just can't)

 

(Can I have a team of Mosley, Nim, and Ren? I think we'd accomplish a lot more together)

 

(The problem of why I am still playing this game)

 

(Oh boy, here comes the meeting room thingy)

 

(...And this is new)

 

(Pretty sure this is Jan's thought process when changing this)

 

(Jojo's Bizarre Adventure in a nutshell)

 

(Aelita...actually helping? That's new)

 

(Hey Aelita, do you want this food? I swear I thought I saw it move just now.)

 

(Hmmm...I'm interested)

 

(I...can't remember if this was stated in the original or not.)

 

(More good dialogue)

 

(Well probably due to the fact foreigner's aren't welcome)

 

(Seriously, this is good stuff)

 

(No, we're making an anime)

 

(...Something tells me years were spent making this)

 

(Oh good, I can become a celebrity now. Also, I probably should start stabbing this food with a fork before it escapes into the wild)

 

(Oh good, that's something I'm good at)

 

(So basically a gym battle where I humiliate you in front of the entire town. I like this idea)

 

(I know you're flattering me so I'll just go along with this....and it's working)

 

(My thoughts on this exactly)

 

(Yes, let's get the show on the road...though it probably won't top the French man himself. That was a show)

 

(This food...it is speaking to me now)

 

(Didn't you need to get home like two months ago?)

 

(I'd like you to live too, Mosley)

 

(Whelp good-bye best character in the game)

 

([Googles nomadic] did not know the word meant that...probably won't ever use it though)

 

(I'm surprised she didn't ask what a nomadic is)

 

(Hey, why don't I get gifts? I did all the hard work)

 

(Something tells me it will all be gone before she arrives home)

 

(...Food solves all problems in the world. The more you know)

 

(No Mosely, you're the best)

 

(I probably won't see any of you for a long time...hopefully Aelita is included)

 

(Yes, yes it must)

 

Suddenly...

 

(I'm boxed in here...get it...no need to get boxy on me now.)

 

So I really, really liked this change in the game as it actually implements more of Narcissa's character into the actual game rather than just have her serve as an obstacle to progress. Her character is a lot more involved compared to a lot of characters who usually are just there and are interchangeable. That's actually an issue with big cast stories as often one is either forced to say something to be relevant or just blends into the background. This is one of the few times this really didn't happen and I though even Aelita was done just fine. I want more of these kinds of scenes because they are even interesting to reread to see what I forgot. And yes, I did just praise Rejuvenation on story. And yes, this kicks the hell out of the original idea of this section.

 

And now a word from our sponsor...

 

(I mean...he does make the game so that does count, right?)

 

I just gave myself a mini heart attack as I accidentally closed out of this thread. Everything I okay though.

 

(.....That exeggutor pic is the scariest thing I've seen so far this year)

 

(Eh, she's probably like Shade...did you know Shade likes music?)

 

(Supporting the strong independent woman idea I brought up)

 

(Did she build this on an Indian Burial ground or something?)

 

(Well duh. Field effects always make the stab of a leader stronger)

 

(Even though they're hindered, Dark Types are still very useful here)

 

(Seriously wish this had an epic animation because that is a cool name for a move)

 

(And it sounds epic)

 

(One of these days GF will make a sound type a real thing)

 

(Or you could bring a normal type Pokemon...hint hint)

 

(Flash is a good move. I'd demonstrate it, but I'd then be banned from Reborn)

 

(So it'll basically be Keta's field...but I don't have Flash...because that takes effort)

 

(Basically that's EZ mode, but we don't do EZ mode around here...except when dealing with Batman)

 

(I did know this actually)

 

If you want to know my favorite type, it's actually Psychic but I tend to use more fire types...and the only Psychic type in my top 10 is Alakazam. I loved spamming Psybeam in Pokemon Stadium as well. That and Psychic looked awesome in it.

 

(I...forgot these were called Janograms...was that ever even mentioned in the game?)

 

(But we're all dead on the inside)

 

This is gonna be really random, but I really don't have a good place to put it. Something that keeps me playing this game or retry it is actually the community around it. It's always been very, very supportive of Jan especially when things go bad or hair is pulled (like certain leaders being laughably broken) it really has been fun looking at it and some of the things going on. I don't think Rejuv is superior to Reborn like some people believe, but I certainly can understand why people enjoy it more. And also, this run is way more popular than I even pictured it being and way more support than I imagined. That really does make spending a few hours one each chapter worth it and going through 100s of pictures again.

 

(...even the potted plants are gold. I swear King Midas was your actual husband)

 

(No, we still got a few screen caps to go before then)

 

(I told you)

 

(I also like this as it shows a bit of anxiety which a lot of people do have before they perform)

 

(And...there's a voice I haven't heard in a long while)

 

(Not as big of a plot twist as Link appearing in a Mario game. I salute you if you know which game that happened in)

 

(No, I just went the other way around)

 

I actually do like the nice touch of how they changed Goldenwood forest to reflect why the player couldn't go that way.

 

(THAT IS NOT IRONY)

 

(Making Ren eat his own words...+10 points for Narcissa)

 

(Man I wish Ren was more involved in the story because he's more interesting than a lot of characters)

 

(Well that's any dream of a Pokemon trainer so...it's understandable)

 

(I probably would've wrote it like "After working so hard trying to rid the black of this town, you succumb to it." Same message though)

 

(Damn, I wish I had images of the old version of this because the difference in quality is very, very visible)

 

(But Narcissa saw through his clever disguise and she crushed Bruce Ren in-between her thighs)

 

The references just keep getting older and older. I'm also probably going to have to call this the Silly Adventures of Commander through Aevium with a side of Rants.

 

(Still think I like clever disguise over actions here)

 

(I realized Jan likes doing a black border around his characters while I tried to avoid doing that with mine. Just an interesting observation)

 

(Even Ren is in disbelief. It's like that moment when the hero says something the villain wasn't expecting...can't think of a good one off the top of my head)

 

(...But there's more seats than people in this town...she's lying)

 

(Oh, Narcissa you clever girl)

 

(I just realized...how old is Narcissa? How old is Geara? And why do girls have gray hair in this town?)

 

(Brains aren't really your strong suit, Ren.)

 

(Playing Ren like a fiddle since Version 9)

 

(I'm going to have to explain something really clever about this since this is a type of scene I've wrote before and why it's golden)

 

(The ticket is a lie. If you haven't figured it out)

 

(So we're racing each other...at least he isn't Barry or I'd lose instantly. That boy can run)

 

(So a VIP ticket. Sound lit.)

 

(It's so hard to keep quiet about what's happening)

 

(I also realize this is a Black vs White situation. Gotta love how coincidental this situation really is)

 

(Seriously, where the hell have scenes like this been in the game so far)

 

(Except plot conveniences)

 

(You realize all I care about is getting this snag machine fixed and y'all are just getting in the way of that)

 

(It's no biggie. I do kind of want revenge for the fence thing. If he saw what I went through, he'd kick his own ass for me)

 

(...That's not how conversion works. It's done by diving or multiplying by 10...I really have got to stop this)

 

(It's funny how true this is right now)

 

Seriously, I will get to this explanation at the end of this scene but that pic sums up what exactly just happened.

 

(You realize I'm like the slowest protagonist you could ask for. It'd be a miracle if he doesn't beat me to it)

 

(Again, this is going to take a paragraph to really explain but just looking back, I really did not appreciate this scene like I should have)

 

(Eh, I'd flip those around honestly. It's a little more complicated than that)

 

(Err...the only person who can fix someone is themselves. Outsiders can only help with it)

 

Okay, so now I finally get to talk about Ren who in my honest opinion is one of the most underrated characters who got an absolute amazing rewrite here. So the old Ren was kind of an ass who was very self-centered and threw morals out the window. This new Ren is much, much more interesting and is honestly really kind of sad. So we can't write up Ren's entire backstory, but we do know he probably didn't have a very good childhood. He was different from everyone due to questioning the norms. This led to him leading a very isolated life which likely pushed him to running away. In fact, he probably was thinking he wasn't very good at anything. It's when he met Melia and Venam that really changed him. They were very different to the point he could really relate to them which he enjoyed their company. He now felt like he had a purpose and found his paradise. That paradise was completely crushed with the death of Melia. That's when he discovered his true purpose in life. He knew he was different and Melia and Venam helped build up his confidence to fulfill his purpose: changing his hometown. It was the only thing left he could save so it had to be him to save it. It's the only thing that could keep him going in life. That fixation slowly blinded his morals as he believed the player would remove his only purpose in life which is why he blocked them off. He never had any ill towards them or hated them. He was just desperate to keep doing the only thing he knew how to do.

 

This then leads to this whole scene with Narcissa saying that he's blind to what he's doing. He's so fixated on trying to help Goldenwood that he blindly fell for Narcissa's trick which any person thinking would've figured it out. It didn't matter as all he was thinking about was fulfilling his purpose. It's the only thing he has left so he'd be willing to take any chances to save it. That's why he acted the way he did. Which leads back to the fact he's doing all of this because of the death of Melia. That was one of the very, very people he truly cared about and now they're just gone. This has a bigger impact on him over Venam as Venam had other people to go to (like her friends she lost) but Ren has nobody. Venam then pushed Ren away instead of trying to help him because he really needed help leaving Ren to fend for himself. So in a since, he's terrified and lonely with the only thing he knows how to do is change Goldenwood.

 

It sounds like I'm circling, which I am. Ren is one of the few characters that actually has more layers than meets the eye. That makes him a much more interesting character to analyze. It also made me realize how much of a dick some characters were really being to him. Narcissa is understandable because she doesn't understand he's suffering through a huge loss (which he has bottled up inside of him). My only gripe is that I wish this was more explained rather than implied information because damn it makes Ren a 3 dimensional character since the events do develop him as a character. He's also probably one of the most consistent characters in the game.

 

So something else I should mention....

 

I didn't capture any pics of the puzzle. Honestly, it's interesting. I don't exactly hate it, but...I can't really say I loved it. It's definitely one of the more unique gym puzzles for a game and probably my favorite idea for a puzzle from both Reborn and Rejuv, but the fact you have to redo the whole thing is kind of burdening and it's pretty long. It's kind of like that food that tastes weird so you eat another bite and can't stop eating it because of that taste. Better than the old gym puzzle (which this kind of is a remake of that).

 

(I won't lie...the props are pretty cool)

 

(If someone rewrote this as a musical, I'd love you forever)

 

(I...just remembered something interesting)

 

If you guys really like something like this, look into Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky. There's actually a play in the game which is really, really good. It's one of my favorite scenes in the game because it's a full on play and not just a scene. You rarely see that in RPGs. (Yeah, yeah we all know about FFVI who did the whole singing thing)

 

(*Gasp* Is Bandit Keith making a guest star appearance?)

 

(Nope, it's Sariah's sister)

 

(I...always pictured Narcissa being a bit pessimistic or sarcastic. Even if it's acting, feels weird seeing her cheery)

 

(Huh? I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a monologue. Would've been cool, but not expected in something like this)

 

(If you wanted to make my jaw drop, write this in Shakespeare style.)

 

(Close enough)

 

(I feel like I'm missing a few pics but we get the general message)

 

(The birds aren't as reliable as the trees. But the winds know all)

 

(Okay, which one of you opened the thousand year door)

 

(Or maybe Groudon is bothering civilians again)

 

I really should make a list of games, movies, animes, and cartoons I referenced. Also while I'm working on this, I'll try thinking up RPGs that use plays/operas.

 

(Are your hemorrhoids doing the Harlem Shake?)

 

The first game in that series I referenced kind of had one, but also Chrono Trigger had two performances.

 

(I kind of am slightly bother by how her crown isn't attached to her head. Minor complaint)

 

Paper Mario and TTYD are pretty much plays especially the latter.

 

(I told you Snoop Dog was the true villain here)

 

Fire Emblem Fates does one as well

 

(The tower of flames...my favorite Miitopia attack)

 

Tomadachi Life doesn't count because it's not an RPG

 

(RIP Snoop Dog. You brought happiness to many...I think)

 

Avatar the Last Airbender had one for a recap episode...not an RPG though

 

(Seriously, I love these cardboard cutouts)

 

Pokemon XD had that whole Crabby and Juggler show

 

(Oh ze horror. Ze zupid scientist ez dead)

 

Pokemon B/W had the musical thing...not as cool as the movies though

 

(RIP...I forget his...oh yeah it's Sirius)

 

FFIX was amazing with those plays. There was even a sword fight minigame. Playing that on an emulator without a controller was interesting.

 

(Did jan just make a rhyme? I have a feeling too much thought was put into this and I love it)

 

Gold and Silver technically had the Kimono Girls

 

(Become a strong independent woman?)

 

That cuphead game had a boss who was basically a play

 

(It was probably Melia's fault. Just guessing.)

 

Trails of Cold Steel does have one as well.

 

(Charlotte? Too soon?)

 

(That's...a very sad life. A tower being your life's work and pride. Then again, the Eiffel Tower is literally just that minus the fire)

 

A Hat in Time also has a boss in the form of a play...I will keep going as long as there are screen caps of this play

 

(I forget if those were real moving fires or just paint)

 

Mario Rappids also had that amazing boss level of one. Google it if you haven't seen it.

 

(It's...organization XIII!)

 

Funny thing about KHIII. I had zero interest in the game until I heard how it's much more like KHII. I saw some of the gameplay from 2.8 and I'm actually very interested in it now. Yeah, yeah, not part of the RPGs stuff but just wanted to mention that. Did I mention I loved playing KHII? That game was part of my childhood and I don't care if the story is bad or messy. Not a big fan of the side stuff...getting off topic now. Back to the game at hand.

 

(I would die laughing if it was Crescent who did it and she saw this being insulted by who played her role)

 

Eh, I ran out games to name off the top of my head. Twas a good try though.

 

(Every time I see the word Judgement, I think about Kratos in the Symphonia anime bonuses)

 

>>>JUDGEMENTO!

 

(That looks like a hex maniac)

 

(She's scary)

 

(Ze tower ez NO MOAR!)

 

(And the beacon of hope is gone)

 

(...I know it's not supposed to be funny but thinking about what happened it kind of is)

 

(I...don't have much to say)

 

(Mysterious figure...best villain in the game)

 

(Again, mysterious figure for best villain)

 

(Bye best villain of 2k17)

 

(Reminds me a bit of Hades from Kid Icarus)

 

(Ze woman ez crazy)

 

Sorry, I can't help it but do Frenchera with anything Goldenwood involved. I swear it won't appear in the Blacksteeple segments...okay, I can't promise that.

 

(Who are you and what have you done with Rejuv...to make it better?)

 

(Geeze, this chick has a lot of lines)

 

(I really want to see this play scripted in dialogue just to see how many lines rhyme)

 

(...Kind of like Petalburg from Paper Mario...wait that's TTYD)

 

(Businessmen in a nutshell)

 

(...This isn't the plays fault but every time I see this I can't think how ridiculous it kind of is)

 

(You know, the mysterious figure kind of was Grunty from Banjo Kazooie)

 

(Ah the great Isolation Ordinance of 1992. Such a tragic day in Aevium)

 

(So they are basically declaring they are their own country here)

 

(That's...a very long time)

 

(I don't know if this is part of the play or not, but it's cool)

 

(Probably talking about Sirius...or Gregory)

 

(Huh, makes sense why she's mad at this time and spiteful)

 

(And I really like this line)

 

(...You've done a terrible job as leader)

 

(Is it the pizza man?)

 

(Aye! Finally we get to see Bandit...)

 

(Run Bandit Keith, Run!)

 

>>>Mosely reminded a bit of Bandit Keith for some reason

 

(Aelita is many things, but boring isn't one of them)

 

(Aelita is actually doing something. That's a first)

 

(Wait...I didn't know Aelita was a good actor. Apparently getting a lot of concussions does that)

 

Yes, I will ride the concussion joke to the ends of the earth as it is a nonsensical cliche so many writers use.

 

(Her values have no weight. Just take it from the expert)

 

(I really can't help but smile every time I see a rhyme. It's not needed but is amusing seeing how much thought went into this)

 

(This is also probably going to be the only highlight of Aelita)

 

(By the way, I also learned that Aelita is very good at memorizing lines)

 

(Y'know, for everything being gold, you'd think the pictures would be as well)

 

(Either that or Aelita is the improv queen)

 

(She also is more stubborn than a Snorlax on a bridge)

 

(Girl fight \o/)

 

(...........If the fate of the world weighed on Aelita, we'd be doomed)

 

(Especially since she's a fighting type trainer facing a ghost type...but Scrappy is a thing)

 

(Seriously, I want to know how much time Jan put into this whole idea alone)

 

(Something tells me Jan may have been reading Shakespeare before doing this)

 

(O_O I don't like this play anymore)

 

(Aelita, you can take this one)

 

(Aelita...you aren't helping)

 

(Please tell me I don't have to kiss you at the end)

 

(If that's true, either way I lose).

 

So minus the plot convenience of Ren and Commander arriving at the same time here...we'll let this one slide because magic could make that easily happen or intentionally happen since the rules of this place aren't normal. Perhaps it was intentional by Narcissa even.

 

(Mommy, that exeggutor is looking at me funny)

 

>>>IT HAS NO EYES!

 

(Remember that long talk I had, does Ren seem like a mindless character now?)

 

(Only because the plot demands it)

 

(Can't really be friends if I'm the one who abandoned you...technically by plot demands)

 

(Ren wants to win by....DETERMINATION!)

 

BTW if you guys had a hell of a time with Sableye, here's a solution for you:

 

(Seriously, this bear is underrated. Pancha best bear)

 

(Btw, I don't have any fairy type moves. Curses! Why can't Mr. Mime learn Moonblast)

 

(Oh I have a lot to talk about with this one. A lot)

 

Ratigan weakened it so that I could finish it off with priority.

 

The rest of the battle was more or less Walter...being Walter

 

 

 

 

 

So interesting fact about Ren's Geninja: It's actually twice as strong as Luna's in HC. Luna is an opponent in the 60s while Ren is in the upper 30s. That in my opinion is an example of doing way too much for an opponent who isn't even the big boss. The other Pokemon are fine, but does he really need a Greninja with a Life Orb, Scald, and Gunk Shot? Literally, it can't get much stronger than that.

 

>>>Apparently people say it's much worse later on so I may have spoke too soon

 

(Now I get to something very interesting)

 

(In one sense, someone could say he's snapping back into reality)

 

(He's actually acknowledging our deeds as well)

 

(And everything is starting to make sense)

 

(Okay, it didn't change THAT much)

 

(...And hanging a little girl wasn't enough to change it. That'd change any town.)

 

(That Slowbro looks like it's eating Cotton Candy)

 

(If you say yes, you basically watch as he shatters himself. If you say no, you basically rid him of his purpose in life. Neither option is really a good pic).

 

I doubt it changes anything, but I did say no because he's being self-destructive to himself.

 

(Yep. He already knew what I was going to say).

 

Something I want to comment about before we see the rest is that basically everything he knows is completely stripped from him. This basically just leaves him as an empty corpse having nothing to fight for or any motives. This is what really separates Ren and Fern:

 

(She's a gym leader. It's in the title to give me hell)

 

(Foreshadowing much?)

 

>>>Didn't Geara try ripping one of her Pokemon to shreds?

 

(This right here is him releasing some of his frustration on the player)

 

(It's this line right here)

 

Despite everything that has happened to him, he's willing to put the town's happiness over his own rooting for the player. He literally did everything to try and stop the player so that he could get something fulfilled or gain a sense of purpose, but even when that is stripped from him, by the one person who was there when it all happened, he still roots for them. He could easily have blamed the player for all that happened especially since he was there with Melia at the time. He doesn't though...he blames himself. He probably also clings to the player a bit since that's all he has. So now he basically walks out of there an empty shell. It really makes you go "What if Ren traveled with us?" instead of what happens. Yeah, I know what happens during Terajuma but I'll save that discussion later. It does lead into an upcoming scene, but we'll have to find out about that later.

 

I know what you're thinking "Commander, why would you end right before the gym battle? There's not that much stuff left." There's almost 200 pics left. I'm not kidding. Anyways, I know people are first going to think that this is an offensive comment but this section doesn't deserve to be in Rejuvenation. If you've seen that 100s of times I've ranted on Rejuv's story, then this will click a lot more. There's really not a character here who does a bad job or I want to face palm by their actions...even Aelita manages to be a good character. You see the history of Ren and Narcissa and how she knows how Ren was and still kind of is. There's character depth. And the whole play scenario is very unique and very fun to relook at. Sure I could criticize the sense and flow of the actual play, but I think the effort there really eclipses any faults. Even without the play, the changes to Ren greatly improved him as a character. Sure I could be looking more into his character than there actually is, but it's one of the few I can actually do that. Keta was very inconsistent, Madelis has no personality, and Venam has 0 development.

 

So yeah, this is basically me saying "This is what I'm looking for" since all I've been doing is just complaint after complaint. Which brings me back to characters. An occurring theme with Rejuv is that past events become very irrelevant instead of connected together. What even is the importance of the Shadow Xen Lab or Wispy Tower in the long run? I'm trying to think of...Alm. Alm from Fire Emblem Echoes is absolutely perfect. Something about Alm is that he's willing to take the risk of saving someone over taking the most successful route to victory. He does some really dumb things at the start being inexperienced (like attacking bandits that outnumber him) which this ideal clashes with one of the best written character in FE history, Clive. Just watch all the scenes line up at the end when Clive finally confesses he was wrong even admitting he'd let his fiance die if it meant success. Anyways if there's any old characters you'd like me to analyze deeper, I'm willing to do that next chapter except for Melia, Aelita, and Agent C(ooker).

[YinYang9705]

>ultimate showdown reference 

how old is that animation....holy shit its almost 12 years old, man how time flies

[DemICE]

18 hours ago, Commander said:

But the other misconception is putting the fact that Legends could mean more than powerful Pokemon.

I found out/remembered that there is this new "quote this"  option when i highlight a text, so it was so easy to do this!
So the thing with legends is that the "uber" ones do have to be leagues above the rest pokemon in power,  since they have power over core features of the worldl. They need to have power to create and maintain those features, and also to defend them when the need arises. I can't imagine a weak pokemon being responsible for the time and space of my world...

18 hours ago, Commander said:

I'm better now, but there's a lot of stressful things in the background.

If keeping a scedule on stuff like this run, and other things you have started in this forum stresses you, maybe you do need to slow the pace a bit and relax, and the outcome might be even better in the end.   Also i got a nasty cold and raised temperature atm so yeah you re not fighting alone there.

18 hours ago, Commander said:

(.....That exeggutor pic is the scariest thing I've seen so far this year)

... It's not like you are used to seeing my discord avatar these last months xD

18 hours ago, Commander said:

(Flash is a good move. I'd demonstrate it, but I'd then be banned from Reborn)

 

18 hours ago, Commander said:

(Even Ren is in disbelief. It's like that moment when the hero says something the villain wasn't expecting...can't think of a good one off the top of my head)

18 hours ago, Commander said:

Okay, so now I finally get to talk about Ren

Maybe you are the only one in the community who sat down and analyzed Ren in his head, let alone in a thorough post. I was not really one of those super Ren haters, but the general reception of Ren by the community was one of complete hate, and not because of the things he did to the MC but because of his character design in general. Maybe this will nudge the more open-minded ones to not always criticise things at face value.

18 hours ago, Commander said:

(Seriously, I love these cardboard cutouts)

What i love is the irony of creating fake drawings in a game consisting of drawings xD

 

18 hours ago, Commander said:

I know people are first going to think that this is an offensive comment but this section doesn't deserve to be in Rejuvenation

I can see where you are coming from, but I'd argue saying a contradictory statement,  that Jan, seeing the effort he puts in the newer versions of Rejuv, does not deserve having half baked parts like the mansion  and Blacksteeple in his game,  especially when the concept for these parts does have potential. What i like tho is that revamps are happening, and usually they are for the better. Mansion did improve compared to before, but it simply wasn't enough to take it out of the bottom of the barrel.

Edited November 8, 2017 by DemICE

[Commander]

On 11/7/2017 at 11:08 PM, YinYang9705 said:

>ultimate showdown reference 

how old is that animation....holy shit its almost 12 years old, man how time flies

2000-2003 was when I was really into youtube (and google video. Who here actually remembers that or the fact youtube had a star rating?) Gotta keep the classics alive.

On 11/8/2017 at 3:33 PM, DemICE said:

If keeping a scedule on stuff like this run, and other things you have started in this forum stresses you, maybe you do need to slow the pace a bit and relax, and the outcome might be even better in the end.   Also i got a nasty cold and raised temperature atm so yeah you re not fighting alone there.

 

Maybe you are the only one in the community who sat down and analyzed Ren in his head, let alone in a thorough post. I was not really one of those super Ren haters, but the general reception of Ren by the community was one of complete hate, and not because of the things he did to the MC but because of his character design in general. Maybe this will nudge the more open-minded ones to not always criticise things at face value.

 

I can see where you are coming from, but I'd argue saying a contradictory statement,  that Jan, seeing the effort he puts in the newer versions of Rejuv, does not deserve having half baked parts like the mansion  and Blacksteeple in his game,  especially when the concept for these parts does have potential. What i like tho is that revamps are happening, and usually they are for the better. Mansion did improve compared to before, but it simply wasn't enough to take it out of the bottom of the barrel.

It's not really keeping a schedule but more like "Oh, I have free time. I could play [Insert Game Here], work on the outline for a rewrite of one of my old pieces, or get to work on this Rejuv run." I tend to rotate them but it's usually just a whim. This isn't like 2016 where things got really, really bad. If people think I'm cranky and mean now, you should've seen me a year ago at this time. Yes, this is actually "Nice" Commander (and not very stressed). As for how harsh I am with comments and remarks, I've been like that since 2004. Maybe I'll get into that story one of these days. (Which relates to many of the unusual things I do when I give feedback).

 

As for Ren and the community, I think it's more that people are way too quick to judge his character. Old Ren was bad so people aren't willing to move on and accept that Ren might be a good character. Think of it more as a community influence rather than the game. So many people are gonna be offended by this, but so many people are closed minded so doubtfully anything I say will really change people's overall opinion on anything. LoZ Wind Waker is easily one of the best examples of this. So many people bashed on the game simply due to the change of art style. Look where we are now with BotW.

 

I can usually excuse a bad part of a game when judging an overall game because people do make mistakes and bad decisions, but there's just so much about the story that's just dull and...forgettable (or unforgetable in a bad way) that it just leads to issue after issue piling up (leading to a dog pile). I'm sure if Jan started from scratch on a new game, it'd be significantly better or at least fix more of what I'm complaining about. So far it's an enjoyable game, but nothing I'd really hold a torch to or reference for. I'll get more into that at the end of this segment.

 

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Chapter 26: This is a very late Halloween gift, but alas I hope you enjoy it anyways

 

Btw here's a pic of the team because most of y'all probably forgot what I had (I know I did):
 

 

Not really something I'm complaining about in Rejuv specifically but moreso Pokemon in general is that levels end up being heavily lopsided due to how the experience and battle systems work as it's by individual Pokemon. I understand what they were trying to do with the Exp share thing but that doesn't work without a cap. If you have something like HC's level limiter, the newer exp share system actually would work great and just cut some fluff that we call grinding. For Marianette I had to really kind due to that Bewear but the only time I really did grinding in this segment actually was to evolve Loewe. He really needed it. Also as another rule of thumb, I don't ever used Inverse candies. It's a waste of good exp that could have been used on a different Pokemon. Just wanted to clear that up about my playstyle and why things look the way there are.

 

>>>I need to make a Commander was right segment as the Exp All plus level cap is really well recieved

 

Also, this episode did get delayed due to the Beta of E17. There was also something else that I was tinkering with to get working and I'm debating whether or not to reveal a bit of it early. You'll see what I'm talking about later. I hate being secretive about it, but I don't want to make false promises then not be able to showcase it. Just know that this thingy also takes up my time too. Oh yeah, COGA's probably are going to be discontinued so that I don't juggle three things at once (this run is going to temporarily slow down until around winter break where I'll try to update). I probably said this stuff, but may as well say it again so that people know that I'm not dead, just slower than a turtle relay race.

 

(As a president with an epic voice once said "Change [moment of pause] is good")

 

(It's terrible. I hate when I get pennies back and wonder where I lost them at. Making me lose my moolah.)

 

Fun fact: I have accumulated in a coin bag $45 worth of change for like the past 8 years. It pretty much just sat there too. Not as bad as my grandpa's ex/not ex girlfriend who had over 20 years worth of nickles and pennies worth $50. Nickles and pennies. Let that sink in.

 

(Probably on how much money they spent on a pizza just to tip the guy)

 

(Ye because we be broke)

 

Oh yeah, I'm planning on getting Yo-kai watch thinking about money. I'm not really digging the whole USUM thing which will be the first mainline games I skipped since Crystal. Yes, I bought a version of each new game of the series until this one. Gen V is where I really started loosing interest in the series...I'm really on a train ride of derailment today. I'm not a big fan of GF and their design choices lately, okay?

 

(Jokes on them...they don't have either of those now)

 

Was gonna make a joke about that with me...but I probably used it somewhere. Seriously, I wouldn't want to be friends with a single resident in this place other than Ren. While you could say Narcissa is nice, she's also a bit stuck-up and snobbish. We'll get into her character analysis soon.

 

(SHE SHOULD NOT LOCK THE OPEN DOOR! (RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!))

 

No folks I am not drunk right now, this is just how I normally am.

 

(I thought this was supposed to be a motivation speech, not the main antagonist giving an overview of their plan before a climatic battle.)

 

That actually reminds me of something that Reborn does better than Rejuv. Rejuv has the villains give a speech to really explain stuff to the point it's a bit nonsense. Reborn is actually really good at balancing that as most of the against the player cut down the chase to the battle. There are some exception like ZEL in Obisidia (who needs to explain some vital info and the player isn't a threat at the time) and Solaris Underneath the Stairs (you weren't a threat to him either). I'm not pointing Jan specifically out on this but so many games do that I feel like it's a nice thing to point out. Great piece of advice to avoid it is that you didn't write the segment right if the villain has to explain everything, not just the scene.

 

(Maybe we should have let Ren face her)

 

Can someone tell me what happens if you say yes to Ren? I assume he just says he knows he'll lose anyways and walks away. Though if he said he had to go back and heal his pokemon, that'd probably be one of the biggest dick moves the player could do to him. I ain't seeing how that pans out after dealing with the damn frog.

 

(Brave probably isn't the best way to describe me, but 'tis a play so I will play the Gallant Knight of Bel Air)

 

You thought I was done offending people but we are just getting started.

 

(Yo dawg, we gonna slam down some beats of honor)

 

Before you say anything, do you know what Will Smith playing a knight sounds like? I didn't think so.

 

(Oh snap! They didn't tell me I'd appear without a costume. Uh...I do kind of blend in so the probably won't recognize a white haired man...wearing a fancy coat...and white boots. If they light torches, I'm getting the heck out of town. Also if I win, I'm getting the heck out of town)

 

(Ah yes, they wish to see our duel of funk)

 

I'm sorry, but now I'm picturing that instead of a gym battle, we determine the fate of the town with a dance off. I'm actually picturing the Pokemon dancing off against each other even. Narcissa probably would beat me, but my team would cream her's in a dance battle. All of mine have legs...most of hers don't.

 

(I'm just going to smile and look pretty pretending not to be pretending I'm Will Smith)

 

(If I lose, does that mean I can actually progress the plot forward)

 

(Didn't...I already do that beating Geara and Ren...and my gambling buddy. We go to the club every Tuesday now)

 

And now you're going to have to let me remember all the details because it's been a few months since I did this. I would take notes, but...I'm busy not trying to lose to even think about that (I wish making a battle log wasn't a pain in the ass with essentials...or maybe I'm doing it wrong)

 

(So the sprite is new and I'm not sure how I feel about this one...mixed feelings here)

 

(That thing hurts like hell)

 

So what took me by surprise was Gengar actually having Sludge Wave. I know I switched out from Joker who set up a light screen...and tanked a hit, but it was either at Gengar or some other time. Ratigan was hit hard by a crit sludge wave but I was able to do some damage with a retaliate sucker punch here. She then switched out to Mimikyu when it was in the red.

 

(This is why Loewe is the best)

 

I think I sacked Pangoro here so that he'd break the disguise. Ratigan served a more important purpose with Sucker Punch. Not sure who knocked it down into the mid HP but it wasn't Loewe. Loewe finished it off with Razor Shell. (Gotta work that sword hand).

 

 

This is where I used Ratigan to Sucker Punch to knock Chandelure down into the killing range where Walter knocked it out with an accelorock. He then took down Gengar with the same move knocking two more Pokemon out.

 

 

I don't really remember Rotom all that much so I'm guessing SEC just spammed Flame burst or something to KO it. Kind of did some scary damage there.

 

 

Loewe managed to take Spiritomb (the one Pokemon it would have been nice to have Pangoro alive for) down with Razor Shell as it lowered its defense.

 

 

Now this is where my brilliant plan went into play. So I used Loewe's turn to heal Joker up. It went south when Ghostly wail proc'd a def up on Loewe meaning Walter didn't do that much damage. I sent in Joker to set up Light Screen and he managed to get some hits in (I think he also did serious damage to gengar but it's hard to remember this battle other than the Sludge Wave crit nearly screwed me over). I then sent out walter who got one rock slide that didn't do much damage before dying. I then had SEC who dealt the finish blow.

 

 

Yeah that Missmagius hurts but Joker let her live thanks to light screen.

 

Sorry it's a jumbled mess but it was my first attempt and I wasn't expecting to win and it came out as a surprise. I honestly think this battle was just right unlike Marianette. All of the mons were threatening but nothing was too threatening to overwhelm the fight. You could make a comment how I had two dark types, but they really didn't do all that much (I could've easily won without them). Kind of funny how Joker who I thought would be worthless turned out to be very important in that battle. Light Screen saved my ass from taking so much damage as it kind of negates the field boost.

 

And moving on...

 

(You mean I can finally move on from this game...YES \o/)

 

Yeah we aren't even close to being done concluding this chapter. Just a warning.

 

(...I think you mean the world of memes, scumbags, and Taco Bell)

 

What? I really want some Taco Bell. It's the only "Mexican" food I can eat without a burning sensation later.

 

(I wouldn't say missed is the best word to put their)

 

(Oh the real kicker is about to come up)

 

(And it's everyone's favorite random NPC)

 

(It's Pokemon. Even the best trainers can get swept by a Magikarp)

 

>>>There's a video of a guy who beat Cynthia with a Magikarp

 

(I deserve the credit for that win because you haxed me)

 

(THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO ANYWAYS BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO BLOODY DO)

 

This line of dialogue right here is why I hate the Goldenwood Villagers. They aren't being disrespectful, they are committing bloody terrorism on the region at this point. There's just too much emphasis on them being so violent. If you want to see a game that does Goldenwood right, D Block from Xenogears is a good example. It's such a unique place that's both a prison and a community. It really nails the feeling of being a prisoner and helpless even. Trails of Cold Steel's entire story runs on a conflict but that is very political and rather hard to explain in a paragraph. I think FFIX also does something similar but that's heavy spoiler territory. The thing is that most of these relate to politics, not to strategy...Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem runs on this concept which you could point out any game (Tellius is the...I already explained this...man my memeory is bad today). I think we get the bloody point at this point.

 

(And cue the real kicker)

 

(I'm just gonna let Narcy handle this for a minute)

 

(Gotta love how Narcy is acting)

 

(And there it is. This is the rant we've all been waiting for)

 

Yes, literally a bunch of kids are acting all edgy and commit crimes due to an incident they never even saw or experienced. It's kind of like teenagers today hating banks simply because the great depression happened. That girl also has to be 14-18 years old so the events of the tower likely happened 16+ years ago. Probably 18. Yes, they have been like this for 18 years straight. Sure maybe if it happened a year or two ago I'd let it slide, but 18 years the league has been letting this stuff slide putting young trainers in a very dangerous situation. The big issue is that all residents act like this other than Ren (and Narcissa to a degree). One single person was not okay with this in an 18 year time period.

 

I did kind of avoid a what I would do here, but I kind of have the answer now. Instead of making the NPCs violent, I'd focus on making them cold hearted and rude as a forefront over violent. However if you talk to some NPCs again, you'd notice a pattern that the NPCs are facing an internal conflict. They believe it's right to push others away and keep them out of the village as they are bound to be hurt by them again (or pressured to acting mean due to peer pressure) but they know doing so is wrong and really hurting the outsiders. For example the lady who hurts your Pokemon, talking to her afterwards makes her feel bad as you're still being nice to her and she gives you a hyper potion. The girl who did something bad to the guy who liked her could have a second set of dialogue (talking to her a second time) saying something like "He was a very sweet boy who even gave me a nice bouquet of roses. Did he really deserve...getting that?"

 

You'd think it'd take a long time to implement something like that, but it's actually not that hard. I think it's actually more important than what is said in the story and impacts it more. Tell me which you think is more interesting: a town full of people cruel to outsiders due to an incident a long time ago or a town full of people cold and cruel to outsiders, knowing it it wrong and even questioning it, but keep doing so simply because of it being the norm and how the city runs. Everything else about this storyline would be exactly the same with the latter, but this scene right here would change a bit. Let's continue on a bit before I explain the key difference.

 

(Well she is a big part of the problem with this section)

 

(Let me just get a dictionary out for a minute)

 

Xenophobic: fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.

 

Yes. It's fine for some people like Sariah to exist but everybody acting like that to an extreme degree is a little over the top.

 

(Meanwhile, Commander is singing Shake it Off in his head)

 

If I was in that situation I totally would sing that song exiting the stage while doing this:

 

Spoiler

(Sariah deserves that treatment so hard)

 

(Who wants to bet she doesn't even know one of their names)

 

(That's not how vengeance works)

 

I'm sorry but how do you do positive vengeance. Oh well let's worry about that later.

 

(As a wise monkey once said "The past can hurt, but you can either run from it or learn from it")

 

>>>Buffoon, not a monkey

 

(I'm starting to understand why Sirius wanted to build a new world now)

 

(Congratulations, you have promoted yourself to second worst character in the series)

 

(And...oh god is this going to be a Friendship is magic episode)

 

(Irony of a foreigner telling a citizen to GTFO)

 

(She's the Knuckles of Rejuvenation)

 

>>>At least she don't chuckle

 

(You threw a man in jail for no reason and no trial...even if he kind of deserved it after the whole Part 3 segment)

 

(And the other great thing about this segment)

 

(Yes, the irony in here is this)

 

I really do wish the town concept was expanded upon over simply being treated as a hivemind that feels the same. More on that at the end of this segment

 

(They'd probably just ignore you or say "Go away!")

 

(Pretty sure deserved and desired are two different thoughts. What they desire is getting a gym badge and getting the hell out. What they deserve is a hello or something for visiting)

 

(Working at a customer service desk in a nutshell)

 

(Remember folks, this is a process that's been going on for 18 years)

 

(And we're almost done...nope no we're not)

 

(I'm pretty sure this was mentioned earlier. Oh well)

 

(...This would be that moment when Commander would give her a funny look. That's just a weird thing to say even for someone like me for a spooky based town)

 

Oh yeah I do get to bring up Reborn again. I don't think it's really all that well done but Reborn does have history and lore placed into the game in North Obsidia but trainers do comment on how the ward communities work and function such as Peridot's train tracks separating two groups. It's kind of a hit or miss with RPGs as some do it and others just make towns serve as stopping points. Unova is the most interesting Pokemon region imo, but Johto has the best lore and community. Lot of things are overlooked from Johto.

 

(Now this is going into Cheese City)

 

(I liked it up until the ending. Gotta love when an ending ruins a game)

 

(Well at least 18 or so years)

 

(Well we did have a nail biting finish with that battle)

 

(Also, I'm sad those aren't cardboard cutout trees but what can you do)

 

Oh yeah I never mentioned this little nice touch but you are supposed to use flash to purify the field which is symbolic of purifying the town in the process.

 

(The one thing Aelita is good at: acting.)

 

I kind of wish the acting trait was brought back and used more as it is an interesting detail about Aelita and the fact she can learn lines fast.

 

(She was surprisingly good at it whether or not it was improv)

 

(YES! LET'S FINALLY GET OUT OF HERE!)

 

(Seriously, why couldn't they just build a gate behind the gym or something? It'd make everyone's lives a lot easier.)

 

Skipping Aelita's dialogue as it's pointless to bring up.

 

(You know some people think Giratina is the devil of Pokemon so...that's kind of morbid having a statue of it.)

 

(And it's badge time)

 

(I misread that as Phangasm Badge. Interpret that however you want)

 

(And now it's talk time)

 

I'll explain why a town facing moral conflicts if much more interesting over what we have now even though the story does not change at all. Instead of being something that is forced upon them, it is more like a final push to change things for the better. It gives this town a feeling that they have a conscience. It's not really about being realistic because well what we have here is realistic but explained and presented poorly. That change makes it feel like a happy ending to this segment rather than a simple "get over yourselves" thing. Sure some dialogue would be altered (I'd probably have Narcissa ask Sariah if she really enjoys hurting people and seeing them suffer. I'd actually then have Sariah leave saying that there's somebody she needs to find and apologize right away). And this wouldn't hurt Ren's character, in fact, I think it would greatly help him and see that maybe the way he's handling this is wrong (as their are other people like him). Just my thoughts. The main storyline is overall fine, but it just has to do with the residents of this town that hurts it. It's appalling that Jan did so many changes really improving the main story and it still gets dragged down by a consistent problem. It even hurts a little bit. But now we need to move on.

 

Oh god I realize what this part is...

 

(Ze time flees me like ze babies who brought me here only to make me suffer.)

 

(Ze logic of ze place ez bananzas with nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Ez fitting place for king of darkness, but like it Zi don't)

 

(Damn ze babies and crazy bitch. Damn zem all.)

 

(To be crushed by ze babies ez worse zan ze place I am trapped)

 

(When Zi make ze entrance of epicness, Zi will make ze babies wish zey went crying to big mama instead of messing with ze Great Geara)

 

(What ez zis. Zat sound ez familiar, but it makes me want to zee crushing of baby Seels)

 

(Zese people. Zey are cray cray with zer logic.)

 

(Zese people. I think I know zem.)

 

(Zits ze professor and uhh...ze one guy with za mohawk zoo ez zuper important. Zi think zih name zis Carl)

 

(Zis crazy bitch dragged me in zere)

 

(How did ze two of you get in zere. Oh...Zi think Zi understand. Ze two of you zar in a relationzip. Throw ze worry fists away az I will not speak words to ze boss. Zhe would kill me if I spoke of such logic zof underzanding non.)

 

(But ze two of zu should not hide for zo long. It zis too long zat we worried you abandoned us. But ze boss will be happy to know zu are alive and well)

 

(Ze boss also mention zu went off ze grid. Zat ez and amazing trick)

 

I have no idea where I'm going with this but zat ez how zi roll.

 

(Zi do not want to know what zat means)

 

(Well az long az you're happy, ze Geara ez happy)

 

(Wait so zu went into zis place without knowing of a way out. Zu are dumber than ze scientist with za plans of zupidity.)

 

(Zi have a crazy idea. Zu zee, zi have zis giant chicken god of doom thingy zat can travel between dimensions. Maybe ze can do that do another world where ze can zen warp us back to ze world we love. Zhy are zu looking at me with ze face of disappointing glares. Fine. Zhen we zar stuck zer for centuries of boredom)

 

(Zhi am not going to zay anything else az zu will just zay it is the work of toddler with brain spazzes)

 

(We wait for ze miracle of ze gods to come to us)

 

(Zi have concluded zat all zientist are people with ze brain power of za mankey)

 

(Zi wonder how long it took you to make zat conclusion)

 

(Zat ez rude. Geara ez fun person to be around and ez ze bestest of animals who party)

 

(Zi am offended and zi demand an apology preferably with a gift.)

 

(Zi zee how zit ez. Zu two are mad zat I crashed zur romantic night. Zat's okay, Geara forgives zu).

 

I don't even question where my mind goes with moments like these. But sorry if these caps aren't up to par because bloody hell is this section full of flat dialogue. You know when a character says something that gives you goosebumps or you can't get out of your head both good or bad, none of that has really been present in this chapter. I also just feel I'm out of it today and I have no idea why. Sometimes it happens and you just gotta keep moving forward. Still not as bad as the SEC segments.

 

(Now zat we cleared ze air, what should we do now? Sitting like dog ez not a thing zi like doing.)

 

(Ze chicken god ez ze best az ze brought za woman to ze festival of sausages)

 

(zhough ze ez crazy, but zi cannot be picky in a world like zis)

 

(Hello, little girl. Do zu want to know a secret?)

 

I'm picturing this becoming canon because bloody hell it works out way too well here:

Spoiler

(Geara is lead signer, Jenniper on Drums, and Zetta on base)

 

 

And that's what my team looked like after Narcissa. Yes, it takes that long before you can look at your team. I was a tad overleveled but mostly because Walter was an Exp hog. Can't help it because he's pretty good.

 

(I love how that rope is still there.)

 

(And now we get to have more fun with Commander)

 

(We could have avoided this entire situation if Ren told us how to get through here. Literally, that's all he needed to do)

 

(And now I'm stuck with blockhead again. Something tells me she'll be the death of me.)

 

(It is when you're at the bank)

 

(And that actually makes sense. You should keep Aelita with you though)

 

(Pretty sure we don't so far in the game. I don't really know and wouldn't surprise me if we didn't)

 

And now I get to...

 

(Don't interrupt me, women)

 

...........

 

I don't have that image. This is the glorious moment that I have no idea what she said so we're going to assume it's not very important.

 

(It took 4 months to actually get to this point. Little is an understatement.)

 

(I kind of realized...how old is Narcissa? She has to be around 40-45 given the whole tower thing. 34 would be the youngest possible age she could be. She old.)

 

>>>I think Aelita is taking a little too much inspiration from Celica

 

Now I get to talk about Narcy. She's actually pretty decent as a support character with my only gripe being I wish she was a little deeper given her relation to Geara and Ren as she knew them for a very long time. In fact, she should be very familiar with a number of townsfolk in this place. As a support character, she doesn't overstay her welcome and I'd be okay if she completely disappeared from the story after that. The sad thing is that she stands out more as she has a bit of a personality, an actual interest in stuff, and has a bit of history other than the tragedy stuff. She was also a fresh change of pace being a voice of reason in a crowd of chaos.

 

Now we get into one of my least favorite changes...

 

(If you changed that N to a D, you'd fit the character to a T)

 

(I know. I never thought I'd make it this far.)

 

(And I get to say this...)

 

If you though my analysis was far-fetched, this kind of more or less confirms his state of being. It's sad as he's one of, if not the only, to actually keep to a consistency like this.

 

(I'm kind of wondering if this would have been the same result even if Ren was the one to change the town)

 

(Well you don't have anything you can really look forward to or go anywhere)

 

(THIS BLOODY PART!)

 

I'm going to let the scene play out to explain why I really understand this scene and it works well, but I really dislike it.

 

(Oh joy how I have not missed you)

 

(Ren no!)

 

(Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.)

 

(Stalking is the word you're looking for)

 

(Has Crescent even made any movements in the game so far? Like walking movements. Seriously, I don't even remember.)

 

(Like why the heck are you standing on a roof? Why do people like doing that? Seriously?)

 

(I wouldn't follow a mysterious stranger I know nothing about, Ren. Bad idea.)

 

This really, really doesn't affect this part so much, but bloody hell does it actually ruin a very interesting analysis meant for later on Ren. The problem with Crescent is mostly due to the fact she disowns any characters actions or feeling of accomplishment/development. She doesn't help build any characters up and more or less actually deconstructs them. Of every character in the game she's interacted with, name one character besides Ren who actually improved because of her. Ren is a slight exception because she actually set him up for the Melia death...which everyone more or less forgot and got over it.

 

So the one thing to cover on Crescent is that well either she or that Gothitelle...I don't know how that stuff works gives her a way to basically steam roll anybody allowing her to basically be a mastermind/god here. I know I said this before but having a character who is nearly faultless doing so much for the story is just boring if not irritating. If she actually showed some more personality, I'd be a bit more for her character. For example, if she actually had a bit of humor or wasn't taking any characters seriously, she'd be a bit more interesting to watch and her actions would be a bit more forgiving. There's also the whole no rhyme or reason why she appears at certain moments and not at others where we're in just as much danger if not more.

 

This problem then stacks up with Ren's character as since he kind of lost everything, he's a broken puppet that's very easy to play with. Instead of actually making some interesting choices which honestly I would be all for THAT event happening on his own terms, it really hinders his character and development so much as he's just...Crescent's toy. Imagine that scene with instead of Crescent, Ren caught a hold of a random grunt saying that they should have a little chat outside of the city with Crescent just merely watching. It'd make what he does a little less obvious and questioning his moral compass. Just my thoughts.

 

As for the overall segment, I thought it was fine with a lot of little ups and downs, but still overall good. Sure I don't like certain things like how over the top extreme the villagers are, but the changes really brought out more to the characters for once. And yes it is okay for a character to start out boring or bland, but avoid doing it to too many. Margulius from Xenosaga, one of my favorite villains, I really disliked in the first game, but the second and especially the third game made me absolutely love him. I get that it's really hard to show emotions in an RPGmaker game, but I think Jan really should make more use out of the emotions system he implemented. Notice how a lot of RPGs use many of those effects throughout the story to express people's thoughts. But yeah, this is the overall minimum quality I tend to expect from a RPG (I'm picky, but can you blame me as they are so goddamn long).

 

As for the next part, it might be a while as I was doing a bit of sidequesting (nothing too major or interesting right now), but I probably won't start working on it until late December or January as there's other stuff I need to get done. Have a nice day and thank y'all for reading. Oh yeah, I skipped this segment as well but I actually missed this until and had no idea you could access it that early:

 

(The name's Commander. Got it memorized?)

[J-Awesome_One]

1 hour ago, Commander said:

Can someone tell me what happens if you say yes to Ren? I assume he just says he knows he'll lose anyways and walks away. Though if he said he had to go back and heal his pokemon, that'd probably be one of the biggest dick moves the player could do to him. I ain't seeing how that pans out after dealing with the damn frog.

He basically says you're lying and that there's no way you mean that.

[DemICE]

2 hours ago, Commander said:

(Working at a customer service desk in a nutshell)

So much this!  I'm between happy that i meet yet another one that knows the pain, or sorry.

3 hours ago, Commander said:

Sometimes it happens and you just gotta keep moving forward.

Well az long az you're happy, ze Geara ez happy    ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

 

Now concerning Crescent, i can understand that Jan tries to mix up magic, with Pokemon.  The result is that at some point, some broken magicians would appear. The problem is not the existence of magic and humans that can use it. The problem is that because this is pokemon, in the end, it won't even matter, and everything will end with just a pokemon battle. Like with Angie. Pretty anticlimatic. Other similar  examples?  Yu-Gi-Oh.  "Ohh im an all powerful ancient spirit that has numerous ways to fuck you up but noo lets duel with this marketed card game." And lose. And call it a day.      

 

Also don't feel that bad about updating speed.  I will be perfectly honest and say that i didn't expect you to update this during e17 beta testing xD