J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 1:41 PM, Jess said: On a scale of 0 to OVER 9000, how game breaking would it be to use Shedinja as a starter? Especially for the first few Gyms! Expand Pretty sure either Emolga carries acrobatics or Bitzle carries Flame Charge. Florina can either set up a sandstorm or poison or leech seed you. Plus, her Cradily has Smack Down I believe. But if it out speeds, then it could be game breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:00 PM, Awesome_One said: Pretty sure either Emolga carries acrobatics or Bitzle carries Flame Charge. Florina can either set up a sandstorm or poison or leech seed you. Plus, her Cradily has Smack Down I believe. But if it out speeds, then it could be game breaking. Expand Well, gotta avoid supereffective moves and entry hazards. Julia's two voltorbs and Helioptile can do nothing vs Shedinja. So, you can easily waste Julia's potions as you set up with Silver Wind or something. Or, you can spam Spite/Sand attack/Mud Slap to get them to kill themselves through Struggle, or get their acc to -6 and switch in something that can use boosting moves, granting yourself an easy switch in. Florinia will be harder, indeed, forgot about Sandstorm/Leech Seed, but still, Maractus and Cacnea can do nothing to Shedinja, which can easily waste Florinia's potions this way. And don't forget the super-annoying Confuse Ray/Heal Block combo vs Cradily. Needs luck with RNG, but can just fuck up its stalling for 5 turns and then you can wear it down. Brute force Shedinja never works, apart from using a Ghost Gem supereffective Shadow Sneak occasionally. As always, you need strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:13 PM, Jess said: Well, gotta avoid supereffective moves and entry hazards. Julia's two voltorbs and Helioptile can do nothing vs Shedinja. So, you can easily waste Julia's potions as you set up with Silver Wind or something. Or, you can spam Spite/Sand attack/Mud Slap to get them to kill themselves through Struggle, or get their acc to -6 and switch in something that can use boosting moves, granting yourself an easy switch in. Florinia will be harder, indeed, forgot about Sandstorm/Leech Seed, but still, Maractus and Cacnea can do nothing to Shedinja, which can easily waste Florinia's potions this way. And don't forget the super-annoying Confuse Ray/Heal Block combo vs Cradily. Needs luck with RNG, but can just fuck up its stalling for 5 turns and then you can wear it down. Brute force Shedinja never works, apart from using a Ghost Gem supereffective Shadow Sneak occasionally. As always, you need strategy. Expand Damn... I feel like I just lost a battle to you. xD Yea. You're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:15 PM, Awesome_One said: Damn... I feel like I just lost a battle to you. xD Yea. You're right. Expand I had honestly forgotten about Florinia's annoying Sandstorm and Leech Seed though... xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:17 PM, Jess said: I had honestly forgotten about Florinia's annoying Sandstorm and Leech Seed though... xD Expand Haha. It's cool. xD Now people can play safer if using Shedinja. Btw, why in the heck does Shedinja have ANY Defense or Special Defense stats? I never understood that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:19 PM, Awesome_One said: Haha. It's cool. xD Now people can play safer if using Shedinja. Btw, why in the heck does Shedinja have ANY Defense or Special Defense stats? I never understood that. Expand To make noobs invest EV in them for utility builds. No idea... It's a Pokemon mystery! Should've set them to 0 or 1 like its HP... Would've been more logical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:21 PM, Jess said: To make noobs invest EV in them for utility builds. No idea... It's a Pokemon mystery! Should've set them to 0 or 1 like its HP... Would've been more logical! Expand Exactly! Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:23 PM, Awesome_One said: Exactly! Haha. Expand It's like how none of my Bugs can learn Fly apart from Volcarona. Cause butterflies and dragonflies aren't able to fly. Game Freak logic xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:24 PM, Jess said: It's like how none of my Bugs can learn Fly apart from Volcarona. Cause butterflies and dragonflies aren't able to fly. Game Freak logic xD Expand Wait wait. Vocvarona can learn Fly?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) On 6/9/2017 at 4:27 PM, Awesome_One said: Wait wait. Vocvarona can learn Fly?! Expand Yes! Only Volcarona and (!?) Genesect from Bugs can learn Fly. Edited June 9, 2017 by Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:28 PM, Jess said: Yes! Only Volcarona and (!?) Genesect from Bugs can learn Fly. Expand I did not know this. How does Volcanrona fly?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:42 PM, Awesome_One said: I did not know this. How does Volcanrona fly?! Expand With his/her wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:43 PM, Jess said: With his/her wings Expand You mean those 6 orange things on his sides are wings?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:44 PM, Awesome_One said: You mean those 6 orange things on his sides are wings?! Expand *Nods. And very beautiful too. Fat yellow Barney aka Dragonite flies, I don't see why Volcarona wouldn't! xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 4:46 PM, Jess said: *Nods. And very beautiful too. Fat yellow Barney aka Dragonite flies, I don't see why Volcarona wouldn't! xD Expand Lol. But his wings look like wings. I thought the orange things on its sides were just there to make it look more cool/pretty. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zellorea Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 1:41 PM, Jess said: On a scale of 0 to OVER 9000, how game breaking would it be to use Shedinja as a starter? Especially for the first few Gyms! Expand Over 9000. Which is why he will not be one of the three. I will get him when I am able to (So at byxbysion wasteland) On 6/9/2017 at 6:02 AM, HongaarseBeer said: You should use Duskull, he's cute Expand I agree, and I used Dusknoir in my main playthrough and loved it! But I can get him relatively early, so I decided against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongaarseBeer Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 6:11 PM, Zellorea said: I agree, and I used Dusknoir in my main playthrough and loved it! But I can get him relatively early, so I decided against it. Expand Too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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