Poison Monotype run of Reborn (Latest Defeated Leader: Amaria)

[RhythmMelody]

3 hours ago, Jess said:

Aster is almost as scary as Orderly John now.

Thanks!  No idea! But I'd probably have issues with Water. Mostly because I find Water types a bit boring, and secondly, because I'd have issues with Fern, Julia and Florinia in early game to the point of wanting to quit. I think it would get easier from that point on, but being weak to Fern isn't something I'd be willing to do.

 

You can catch a Skorupi in Byxbysion Wasteland.  

 

Actually Julia isn't a problem in a water run and Fern and Florinia are neither. Mudkip and Lightningrod Goldeen vs Julia and Ducklett and Wingull against the latter. 

[Jess]

48 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Actually Julia isn't a problem in a water run and Fern and Florinia are neither. Mudkip and Lightningrod Goldeen vs Julia and Ducklett and Wingull against the latter. 

I agree that you can defeat Julia with Marshtomp. However, I don't really like any Water starter apart from Froakie and Oshawott (and Popplio, which is unavailable yet), and they don't really stand a chance vs Julia. Froakie can, with Protean, but isn't really tanky/strong early.

Yes, Lightningrod Goldeen is a must as well.

 

Wingull might be Panpour actually (depends on RNG, similar to the Pachirisu/Zigzagoon quest). And Ducklett is unavailable pre-Julia and Slums, so you'd have to face Fern at least once without it. Also, vs Roselia neither Wingull nor Ducklett stand a chance.

But even with manageable battles, I'd never do a Water run, cause I'd probably abandon it in the middle because of excessive boredom.

Edited July 31, 2017 by Jess

[RhythmMelody]

4 minutes ago, Jess said:

I agree that you can defeat Julia with Marshtomp. However, I don't really like any Water starter apart from Froakie and Oshawott (and Popplio, which is unavailable yet), and they don't really stand a chance vs Julia. Froakie can, with Protean, but isn't really tanky/strong early.

Yes, Lightningrod Goldeen is a must as well.

 

Wingull might be Panpour actually (depends on RNG, similar to the Pachirisu/Zigzagoon quest). And Ducklett is unavailable pre-Julia and Slums, so you'd have to face Fern at least once without it. Also, vs Roselia neither Wingull nor Ducklett stand a chance.

But even with manageable battles, I'd never do a Water run, cause I'd probably abandon it in the middle because of excessive boredom.

 

Thats too bad ofc, that you don't like the Water starter that have the best start in Water mono run xD 

 

I don't think it's too much work to softreset for Wingull, if one seriously wants one. And actually I never had any real problems with Ferns Roselia as far as I can remember. Dunno why everyone is so afraid of it. I think Ducklett and Wingull should be able to take care of it. 

And I don't mind you not, this way I can do a water mono run someday without having to compete with you, which would result in a heavy loss for me  

[Jess]

2 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Thats too bad ofc, that you don't like the Water starter that have the best start in Water mono run xD 

 

I don't think it's too much work to softreset for Wingull, if one seriously wants one. And actually I never had any real problems with Ferns Roselia as far as I can remember. Dunno why everyone is so afraid of it. I think Ducklett and Wingull should be able to take care of it. 

And I don't mind you not, this way I can do a water mono run someday without having to compete with you, which would result in a heavy loss for me  

You can't really softreset for Wingull. Gotta start the game again. Which I'd never do (maybe I'd do it for Pachi instead of Ziggy, even though I like both).

I've got traumatic experiences from his Roserade at Route 1. This thing can outspeed anything that speed-ties or is slightly faster than it. Also, how thefuck did Fern's Budew not know Extrasensory, but his Roserade does... But again, he is the kind of guy who would abandon his starter after breeding a stronger version of it. Who EVER does that to his/her starting companion?!

[EndearingCharacterTrait]

25 minutes ago, Jess said:

But again, he is the kind of guy who would abandon his starter after breeding a stronger version of it. Who EVER does that to his/her starting companion?!

If I recall it actually changes from female to male at one point...so yeah he replaced it 

[Jess]

3 minutes ago, EndearingCharacterTrait said:

If I recall it actually changes from female to male at one point...so yeah he replaced it 

I really wanted a Physical Bulbasaur with Curse bred on it in my Poison run. But couldn't say goodbye to Narcissus and box him.  

 

I guess I experienced feelings that Fern hasn't ever felt!

[St0mpa]

31 minutes ago, Jess said:

Who EVER does that to his/her starting companion?!

umm look at my dark run. The only reason I haven't replaced my Greninja is that it doesn't really learn any good egg moves to replace it with I have replaced the other 3 of my original 4.

[RhythmMelody]

49 minutes ago, Jess said:

You can't really softreset for Wingull. Gotta start the game again. Which I'd never do (maybe I'd do it for Pachi instead of Ziggy, even though I like both).

I've got traumatic experiences from his Roserade at Route 1. This thing can outspeed anything that speed-ties or is slightly faster than it. Also, how thefuck did Fern's Budew not know Extrasensory, but his Roserade does... But again, he is the kind of guy who would abandon his starter after breeding a stronger version of it. Who EVER does that to his/her starting companion?!

 

I change my starter on regulary basis. Though thats because I don't like most of the starter Pokemon and just use them as tool ^^'

[Jess]

19 minutes ago, St0mpa said:

umm look at my dark run. The only reason I haven't replaced my Greninja is that it doesn't really learn any good egg moves to replace it with I have replaced the other 3 of my original 4.

I'm sorry to say, but you're in Fern category now  

 

4 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

I change my starter on regulary basis. Though thats because I don't like most of the starter Pokemon and just use them as tool ^^'

Starter is the ace of the squad. The first buddy. Except for the case of custom runs, when sometimes a starter doesn't fit the theme.

[RhythmMelody]

2 minutes ago, Jess said:

Starter is the ace of the squad. The first buddy. Except for the case of custom runs, when sometimes a starter doesn't fit the theme.

 

Not for me. As I said, I don't really like the starter. Sadly most of the Pokemon I would love to have as my ace, aren't strong and /or useful enough to be an ace.

 

EDIT: Which is what I really like about the Anime, where even "weak" Pokemon can be strong.

Edited July 31, 2017 by RhythmMelody

[Jess]

Just now, RhythmMelody said:

 

Not for me. As I said, I don't really like the starter. Sadly most of the Pokemon I would love to have as my ace, aren't strong and /or useful enough to be an ace.

Give some examples  

[RhythmMelody]

Just now, Jess said:

Give some examples  

 

Vaporeon, Umbreon, Shedninja, Miltank, Ursaring, Alomomola, Diggersby, Klefki and to some degree seviper, sableye, absol and mawile. (I dont wanna use Megas)

[Jess]

2 hours ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Vaporeon, Umbreon, Shedninja, Miltank, Ursaring, Alomomola, Diggersby, Klefki and to some degree seviper, sableye, absol and mawile. (I dont wanna use Megas)

Vaporeon, Umbreon, Diggersby as well as Absol and Mawile are good enough to be permanent members in a squad.

And Vaporeon can easily be an Ace, as a bulky wall that hits hard.

[RhythmMelody]

Just now, Jess said:

Vaporeon, Umbreon, Diggersby as well as Absol and Mawile are good enough to be permanent members in a squad.

And Vaporeon can easily be an Ace, as a bulky wall that hits hard.

 

Of course they are good enough to handle themselves and they sure as hell can be a permanent member of a squad. But thats not what being the Ace is about.

And I'm with you when you say that Vaporeon is bulky and can hit hard, but it's still no Ace for me. For me Ace means, that the Pokemon is without question cut above the rest of the team and as much as I love Vaporeon, it is not cut above the rest of almost any squad. Maybe it's just me, but for me the Ace is the strongest Pokemon in the squad. Doesn't matter because of it's raw power or because the tactic of the team sets up so the Ace can wreck havoc. But in the end the Ace is the one Pokemon that'll make your enemy shit his pants  My opinion on this though, in pure stalling team the Ace might as well be the most tanky Pokemon I guess.

 

But thats the one thing I like more or less more than anything else about the Anime, because the Pokemon aren't bound by stats there. A Caterpie can win against Team Rocket just with a String Shot, Pikachu can easily take on foes like Onix or Raichu and Psyduck goes BOOM on anything stupid enough to stand in its way. There is (usually) none that just spams one legendary or semi-legendary Pokemon after the other and thats what's great I think.  

[Jess]

1 minute ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Of course they are good enough to handle themselves and they sure as hell can be a permanent member of a squad. But thats not what being the Ace is about.

And I'm with you when you say that Vaporeon is bulky and can hit hard, but it's still no Ace for me. For me Ace means, that the Pokemon is without question cut above the rest of the team and as much as I love Vaporeon, it is not cut above the rest of almost any squad. Maybe it's just me, but for me the Ace is the strongest Pokemon in the squad. Doesn't matter because of it's raw power or because the tactic of the team sets up so the Ace can wreck havoc. But in the end the Ace is the one Pokemon that'll make your enemy shit his pants  My opinion on this though, in pure stalling team the Ace might as well be the most tanky Pokemon I guess.

 

But thats the one thing I like more or less more than anything else about the Anime, because the Pokemon aren't bound by stats there. A Caterpie can win against Team Rocket just with a String Shot, Pikachu can easily take on foes like Onix or Raichu and Psyduck goes BOOM on anything stupid enough to stand in its way. There is (usually) none that just spams one legendary or semi-legendary Pokemon after the other and thats what's great I think.  

Yes, I agree. To be honest, I'm not familiar with the "ace" pokemon definition, mostly because I enjoy having everyone in the spotlight at some point. There are fights when a Volcarona will be useless and it will get carried by a level 1 Paras. (I've actually done that)

This is what I dislike about competitive battling. When I'm trying stuff and wanna have fun and hit 5 tryhards in a row with the entire collection of legendaries.

Where's the fun in winning like that? Brute force, zero thinking. Just outspeed and spam your best attack.

 

Anime is really underrated imo. It was the thing that inspired the field effects. And it needs to get more credit about that!

[seki108]

6 minutes ago, Jess said:

When I'm trying stuff and wanna have fun and hit 5 tryhards in a row with the entire collection of legendaries.

Pretty much why I don't use Showdown.  Sure, Reborn's server is good from what I've seen, but most of the time every team I face just spammed most of the Psuedos, Mythicals, and Legendaries that were available (mostly stuck with UU, but a few times in OU).  Even using normal mons in the same tier can only be so effective against a lighting bruiser.........or maybe I just suck.

[RhythmMelody]

6 minutes ago, Jess said:

Yes, I agree. To be honest, I'm not familiar with the "ace" pokemon definition, mostly because I enjoy having everyone in the spotlight at some point. There are fights when a Volcarona will be useless and it will get carried by a level 1 Paras. (I've actually done that)

This is what I dislike about competitive battling. When I'm trying stuff and wanna have fun and hit 5 tryhards in a row with the entire collection of legendaries.

Where's the fun in winning like that? Brute force, zero thinking. Just outspeed and spam your best attack.

 

Anime is really underrated imo. It was the thing that inspired the field effects. And it needs to get more credit about that!

 

I would lie if I said I wouldn't be a friend of good ol' physical power, but yeah. The overuse of legendaries is terrible and no fun at all. That is actually the greatest thing about Reborn, that it forces you to not rely on Ubers. And of course a Lv. 1 Paras can carry a Volcarona in one special situation, but to be an Ace in general I'd say is to be reliable in just almost any situation, by simply being stronger than anyone around you.

 

I would rather say certain aspecs of the Anime is underrated. Overall I'm no fan of it either (Satoshi wtf go kill yourself you stupid shit for brains eternal 10-year old). But yeah, it sure as hell has aspects that are just great.

[Jess]

4 minutes ago, seki108 said:

Pretty much why I don't use Showdown.  Sure, Reborn's server is good from what I've seen, but most of the time every team I face just spammed most of the Psuedos, Mythicals, and Legendaries that were available (mostly stuck with UU, but a few times in OU).  Even using normal mons in the same tier can only be so effective against a lighting bruiser.........or maybe I just suck.

The last week I played random battles in Gen VII. My team had Jirachi and Roserade as its best 'mons. And I had t face a Mega Salamence and a Buzzwole. As you can understand, I didn't count on my luck for anything for the rest of that day.

 

@RhythmMelody I actually respect Ash. Good strategist, with a moral compass and supportive. Battling-wise, his decisions aren't always the best, but they are the best if you consider your 'mons to have feelings. He's a great character imho.

Edited July 31, 2017 by Jess

[RhythmMelody]

5 minutes ago, Jess said:

 I actually respect Ash. Good strategist, with a moral compass and supportive. Battling-wise, his decisions aren't always the best, but they are the best if you consider your 'mons to have feelings. He's a great character imho.

 

Nope, no way. I can't respect Ash. He may have his good sites, I won't deny them, but he's just too stupid. At the beginning of each season he just goes back to being a total moron and decides to do shit he should have learned not do (or the other way round he doesn't do shit he should do) already in the first season. For some reason he unlearns basic knowledge like that there is love between male and female. Just to name a few things. Though I'll admit that I'm neither a fan of the typical shonen protagonist nor young characters in general, so my dislike for Ash might have something to do with this. I'm a really big fan of James from Team Rocket though, looking at the aspect of moral compass, supportiveness and actually more or less anything  too bad, that Team Rocket were made to be the dumb joke they are.

 

[Jess]

4 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Nope, no way. I can't respect Ash. He may have his good sites, I won't deny them, but he's just too stupid. At the beginning of each season he just goes back to being a total moron and decides to do shit he should have learned not do (or the other way round he doesn't do shit he should do) already in the first season. For some reason he unlearns basic knowledge like that there is love between male and female. Just to name a few things. Though I'll admit that I'm neither a fan of the typical shonen protagonist nor young characters in general, so my dislike for Ash might have something to do with this. I'm a really big fan of James from Team Rocket though, looking at the aspect of moral compass, supportiveness and actually more or less anything  too bad, that Team Rocket were made to be the dumb joke they are.

 

I raged a bit when Ash tried to catch a wild Deerling without battling it first to weaken it down. Of course, it deflected the ball, and he never caught it. So, I missed the chance to see my favourite Pokemon starring in the anime series. I'll never forgive Ash for this.  

Also, James is awesome. Funny, a tad evil, but not enough to hate him, and highly sentimental. Had a lot of fun and emotional moments with his life-flashbacks!

[RhythmMelody]

9 hours ago, Jess said:

I raged a bit when Ash tried to catch a wild Deerling without battling it first to weaken it down. Of course, it deflected the ball, and he never caught it. So, I missed the chance to see my favourite Pokemon starring in the anime series. I'll never forgive Ash for this.  

Also, James is awesome. Funny, a tad evil, but not enough to hate him, and highly sentimental. Had a lot of fun and emotional moments with his life-flashbacks!

 

He did that with Pidgeotto too and I'm pretty sure he also tried to throw a Pokeball with out fighting for his snivy.

 

He's not only awesome by likeliness, I think he's just a really great character in whole. The concept of his, the background, his quirks and everything is just perfect. It's just really sad the Anime made Team Rocket into a running gag. I would have much prefered if they were depicted as strong and dangerous as they really are. 

[Jess]

3 hours ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

He did that with Pidgeotto too and I'm pretty sure he also tried to throw a Pokeball with out fighting for his snivy.

 

He's not only awesome by likeliness, I think he's just a really great character in whole. The concept of his, the background, his quirks and everything is just perfect. It's just really sad the Anime made Team Rocket into a running gag. I would have much prefered if they were depicted as strong and dangerous as they really are. 

With Pidgeotto, it was reasonable. Caterpie, the first 'mon he captured, was caught this way because it was too weak, making him believe he would catch every 'mon this way. But then, it was just stupid.

 

Also, in the last 2 seasons, Team Rocket stopped getting launched and gained a more serious approach, which I enjoy.

[RhythmMelody]

1 hour ago, Jess said:

With Pidgeotto, it was reasonable. Caterpie, the first 'mon he captured, was caught this way because it was too weak, making him believe he would catch every 'mon this way. But then, it was just stupid.

 

Also, in the last 2 seasons, Team Rocket stopped getting launched and gained a more serious approach, which I enjoy.

 

Yeah, but you'd think even a ten year old won't ever forget the very first lesson he's taught in the aspect of Pokemon. But Ash forgets all the time anything he learns. 

 

I read about that, didn't watch those seasons. But yeah, that's pretty much what I wanted as far as I know about it. Happend since one of the movies I think.

[Jess]

1 minute ago, RhythmMelody said:

 

Yeah, but you'd think even a ten year old won't ever forget the very first lesson he's taught in the aspect of Pokemon. But Ash forgets all the time anything he learns. 

 

I read about that, didn't watch those seasons. But yeah, that's pretty much what I wanted as far as I know about it. Happend since one of the movies I think.

It isn't that Ash "forgets". It is that every new anime season has to introduce new fans to the basics. Mostly because Pokemon mostly target kids of about 10 years old (like the character), who aren't patient enough to watch the whole series to catch up. It isn't an anime like Naruto, or One Piece that have  a more grown-up target group.

So Ash is "forced" to forget. It's like how Pikachu gets a level reset at the start of every season. It's not possible to defeat Darkrai in one's season ending, and tie in power with a Bunnelby when next season starts.

Take some stuff of the anime with a pinch (or a ton) of salt. It will help you enjoy it more.

[RhythmMelody]

3 minutes ago, Jess said:

It isn't that Ash "forgets". It is that every new anime season has to introduce new fans to the basics. Mostly because Pokemon mostly target kids of about 10 years old (like the character), who aren't patient enough to watch the whole series to catch up. It isn't an anime like Naruto, or One Piece that have  a more grown-up target group.

So Ash is "forced" to forget. It's like how Pikachu gets a level reset at the start of every season. It's not possible to defeat Darkrai in one's season ending, and tie in power with a Bunnelby when next season starts.

Take some stuff of the anime with a pinch (or a ton) of salt. It will help you enjoy it more.

 

I fear I'm seriously no good at taking stuff with pinches or tons of salt ^^'' I'm not that much enjoying anime/series to begin with, so it's even harder if I dislike the main character  specially when he's as dull as Ash, even though I'll admit that it's true, that he is forced to forget. Didn't think about that till now.

 

Edit: Funfact, I'm no fan of the Naruto or One Piece anime either  

Edited August 1, 2017 by RhythmMelody