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Doku

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Hello!

 

First time poster long time lurker and such. Started playing this game a bit ago and have enjoyed the crap out of it! However i got a team together, and while i have been able to clear the content it'd be nice to see a few fresh faces or at least better round out the team as this team tends to get me in trouble quite a bit. (my god the soft resets and the memorizing of movesets >.<)

 

Funny enough, i picked torchic as my starter but never used her because i found blaziken to be a bit op the last legit pokemon game i played (at least in the beginning. maybe not anymore?) My team has changed a few times (mainly i had a Camerupt for the longest time till he started getting ohko'd. level 55 was as high as he got) but the following has been my staple for a majority of the game. I just got fly, and ive been picking up the event pokemon i now have access to so im aware im really far in the game but still wanna swap it up a bit.

 

My box is... giant and filled with stuff just ready to go. Im willing to start breeding i just cant make any decision :(. Any suggestions to jump start the pokemon addled mind?

 

My team:

 

Gardevoir- Synchronize  

Modest 252 spA/252 speed/6def

psychic

Future Sight

Wish

Moonblast

 

Golem - Sturdy

Careful 208 hp/252attk/50spd

Steath Rock

Rock Blast

Stone Edge

Earthquake

 

Roserade - Natural Cure

Timid 252 spa/252 speed

giga drain

spikes

venoshock

stun spore

 

Magnezone - Sturdy

Modest 252 spa/252speed

discharge

magnet rise

zap cannon

Flash Cannon

 

Empoleon - Torrent

Modest 252 hp/252spa

Water Sport

Surf

Brine

Dive

 

Arcanine - Intimidate

Lonely 252 atk/(every thing is jumbled after atk)

Heat Wave

Fire fang

Outrage

Close combat

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Doku said:

Funny enough, i picked torchic as my starter but never used her because i found blaziken to be a bit op the last legit pokemon game i played (at least in the beginning. maybe not anymore?)

It's considered the most broken starter in pretty much any game if it has speed boost.

 

I would consider replacing Empoleon with another Water type with more coverage (since it's best moves aren't really available).  Tentacruel is a basic Special choice to provide additional Poison coverage, while Crawdaunt provides physical Water/Dark coverage with Dragon Dance for boosting.

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4 minutes ago, seki108 said:

It's considered the most broken starter in pretty much any game if it has speed boost.

 

I would consider replacing Empoleon with another Water type with more coverage (since it's best moves aren't really available).  Tentacruel is a basic Special choice to provide additional Poison coverage, while Crawdaunt provides physical Water/Dark coverage with Dragon Dance for boosting.

Yeah she had speed boost and it just felt... crazy op to just leave her on the field in the beginning of the game.

 

Empoleon was used as coverage for the fire gym as I had no water types at the time (was using Forretress, and that turned out real well) and for its bulk. If i remember correctly Tentacruel will fill the same slot?

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1 minute ago, Doku said:

Empoleon was used as coverage for the fire gym as I had no water types at the time (was using Forretress, and that turned out real well) and for its bulk. If i remember correctly Tentacruel will fill the same slot?

Pretty much, as Bulky special attacker (with potential as a Toxic Spike layer and Spinner).   Without Flash Cannon, Scald, or Ice Beam, Empoeon only has 'meh' STAB Water moves without much type coverage.  You're probably ok otherwise, aside from lack of flying or dark coverage (at least with the mons you listed).

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1 hour ago, seki108 said:

Pretty much, as Bulky special attacker (with potential as a Toxic Spike layer and Spinner).   Without Flash Cannon, Scald, or Ice Beam, 

How do you get Scald on Tentacruel? I read a little on the breeding section about needing Ep 12 to do so since we dont have access to the proper TM yet?

 

I imagine tentacruel would look like this:

 

modest 252 spa/252spd

Rapid spin

toxic spike

hex?

scald/hydro pump

 

What about Rotam-Wash? would he serve much the same minus Rapid spin but adding volt switch?

 

Also, i feel like Golems only purpose in life right now is to set stealth rocks and die. Is there another Stealth rock user i could swap in thats less ohkoish?

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Just now, Doku said:

How do you get Scald on Tentacruel? I read a little on the breeding section about needing Ep 12 to do so since we dont have access to the proper TM yet?

 

I imagine tentacruel would look like this:

 

modest 252 spa/252spd

Rapid spin

toxic spike

hex?

scald/hydro pump

 

What about Rotam-Wash? would he serve much the same minus Rapid spin but adding volt switch?

 

Also, i feel like Golems only purpose in life right now is to set stealth rocks and die. Is there another Stealth rock user i could swap in thats less ohkoish?

I didn't.  I was just saying that Empolion basically has no really good moves right now without those three moves (it's basically the worst starter).  I just recommend replacing it with a better water mon.   You can do TM breeding in an earlier episode (or on Reborn Hardcore).

 

Rotom Wash is good for electric coverage, though we don't have Volt Switch yet (and it doesn't learn it naturally).

 

A bulky Mamoswine is my Stealth Rock user sometimes, though it was still great before the Stealth Rocks.  You get to keep Earthquake and even add Ice coverage (though you lose other Rock coverage).

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39 minutes ago, Doku said:

How do you get Scald on Tentacruel? I read a little on the breeding section about needing Ep 12 to do so since we dont have access to the proper TM yet?

 

I imagine tentacruel would look like this:

 

modest 252 spa/252spd

Rapid spin

toxic spike

hex?

scald/hydro pump

 

What about Rotam-Wash? would he serve much the same minus Rapid spin but adding volt switch?

 

Also, i feel like Golems only purpose in life right now is to set stealth rocks and die. Is there another Stealth rock user i could swap in thats less ohkoish?

Swampert is a good water pokemon that can learn stealth rock and it has only one weekness.

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