darkwatcher Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Is it compulsay to lose to that hiker to obtain beldum? i never lose a battle in this game so it kind of sad if we really have to lose to him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongaarseBeer Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, darkwatcher said: Is it compulsay to lose to that hiker to obtain beldum? i never lose a battle in this game so it kind of sad if we really have to lose to him.. You must lose to someone, doesn't matter if it's a hiker or a wild battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Kinda hard to never lose a battle in reborn even without getting beldum, but yeah you gotta black out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwatcher Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wolfox said: Kinda hard to never lose a battle in reborn even without getting beldum, but yeah you gotta black out in episode 16, you become the champion because Xe ask you to and you randomly lose to random pokemon... it kind of weird xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 you think Cynthia never lost a battle? or Steven? or f*cking Lance or Alder? or even Iris and Diantha? every champion loses from time to time on their way to the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongaarseBeer Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, darkwatcher said: in episode 16, you become the champion because Xe ask you to and you randomly lose to random pokemon... it kind of weird xD I wouldn't pay too much attention to it if I were you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Alder loose a battle ? XD , ooops. More seriously , yeah it's kinda impossible to never loose a single battle on reborn , even with a cheated team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwatcher Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Pμrple said: Alder loose a battle ? XD , ooops. More seriously , yeah it's kinda impossible to never loose a single battle on reborn , even with a cheated team well, i always prepare, futher more , this is the second time i play this. I lost my previous save so i have to play all over again and this time, i kind of prepared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 @darkwatcher good luck to you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 3:22 PM, darkwatcher said: well, i always prepare, futher more , this is the second time i play this. I lost my previous save so i have to play all over again and this time, i kind of prepared Well, video or it didn't happen. It's impossible to win everyone first try in Reborn. I call bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmMelody Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Jess said: Well, video or it didn't happen. It's impossible to win everyone first try in Reborn. I call bs. I call bs in normal runthrough. But I'm pretty sure if one is dedicated and tweaks ones team everytime 100% before going against anyone, I'd say it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, RhythmMelody said: I call bs in normal runthrough. But I'm pretty sure if one is dedicated and tweaks ones team everytime 100% before going against anyone, I'd say it's possible. Must have an extreme form of OCD to 100% change your team every time to fully counter the opponent. I still call bs. Have run through reborn four times, and every time someone gave me trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jess said: Must have an extreme form of OCD to 100% change your team every time to fully counter the opponent. I still call bs. Have run through reborn four times, and every time someone gave me trouble. and even if you change your team every time, there's hax that can stop you. and even if you know every boss battle of reborn 10%, one minor missplay and you lose. winning everything in this game in 100% not possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmMelody Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Just now, Jess said: Must have an extreme form of OCD to 100% change your team every time to fully counter the opponent. I still call bs. Have run through reborn four times, and every time someone gave me trouble. One doesn't need 100% changes, but I think each Gym leader is possibly deafeted with the right 1-3 Pokemon. I'm always having trouble too, but mostly because I often refuse to use certain Pokemon for various reasons. And except for Pulse Swalot there wasn't a single fight I did not win on first try at least once. Thus I conclude if one seriously wishes too, it is possible to play the game without losses. Though you won't get Beldum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wolfox said: and even if you change your team every time, there's hax that can stop you. and even if you know every boss battle of reborn 10%, one minor missplay and you lose. winning everything in this game in 100% not possible I agree with this. 4 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said: One doesn't need 100% changes, but I think each Gym leader is possibly deafeted with the right 1-3 Pokemon. I'm always having trouble too, but mostly because I often refuse to use certain Pokemon for various reasons. And except for Pulse Swalot there wasn't a single fight I did not win on first try at least once. Thus I conclude if one seriously wishes too, it is possible to play the game without losses. Though you won't get Beldum This MIGHT be possible, with a whole load of luck, but, even so, the mentality that "oh, they want me to be the successor of the champion's throne, so I must never lose a battle" is just not realistic or correct. You go to the top just because you have experienced defeat many times and kept getting on your feet and climbing. Not because you never lose. Edited August 3, 2017 by Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmMelody Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Just now, Jess said: This MIGHT be possible, with a whole load of luck, but, even so, the mentality that "oh, they want me to be the successor of the champion's throne, so I must never lose a battle" i just not realistic. You go to the top just because you have experienced defeat many times and kept getting on your feet and climbing. Not because you never lose. I never said anything about the mentality behind that, I was just talking about the possibility of never losing. Of course one has to lose first to learn, but that is looking at reality. Reborn is a game and one can easily look up oppenents and their tactics before battling enemies and use experience from already finished run through. I had over a dozen runs where I played up to Radomus before even finishing the episode even once because I always started a new run to try out different tactics and trying to find the 'perfect' game. Of course I fucked up dozen and hundreds of times, so even if I did manage a run where I wouldn't loose a single time, I wouldn't be at the top because I never lost. I would be there because I lost often, but in another run through. So what I want to say is: I don't think it is wrong to aim for the 'no-loss' run through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RhythmMelody said: I never said anything about the mentality behind that, I was just talking about the possibility of never losing. Of course one has to lose first to learn, but that is looking at reality. Reborn is a game and one can easily look up oppenents and their tactics before battling enemies and use experience from already finished run through. I had over a dozen runs where I played up to Radomus before even finishing the episode even once because I always started a new run to try out different tactics and trying to find the 'perfect' game. Of course I fucked up dozen and hundreds of times, so even if I did manage a run where I wouldn't loose a single time, I wouldn't be at the top because I never lost. I would be there because I lost often, but in another run through. So what I want to say is: I don't think it is wrong to aim for the 'no-loss' run through. Even if you know the strategy and movesets and 'mons the opponents use, even if you get a perfect team to beat them everytime, one miss or different move choice by AI, one randomly inflicted Freeze, or Paralysis, or flinch, or crit will make you lose eventually. It is not possible to go undefeated through the game in my opinion. Also, this isn't an actual run that can be made in Reborn. In Pokemon Red, maybe. But "not losing" isn't something that makes your run special. It is close to nuzlocke, but far from it as well. Nuzlocke depends on bond creation with your 'mons, not on dumping them everytime to get different perfect 6. Anyways, pointless conversation, let's accept our opinions are different and end it here. Edited August 3, 2017 by Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmMelody Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Jess said: Anyways, pointless conversation, let's accept our opinions are different and end it here. Guess so. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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