Chengro Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) So...since the episode 17 development seems to going smoothly, what was your biggest accomplishments in episode 16? For me I traveled through the whole Reborn map with itemfinder and mined every single mineral I can find, to be able to obtain those damn Heart Scales, and also I have first time in my entire life tried EV and IV trained Pokemons. To be honest, before I played this game, I did not even know that EV and IV existed. Here is my main team: Lol, yeah I know, those IVs not nearly perfect and the items are quite weird to. However I am satisfied, I spent alot time to train them because I did not have a good Ditto, it was fun i guess. Also, free to drop some tips for my items or EVs Edited September 2, 2017 by Chengro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairFamily Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 To me it would deafeating Adrienn with my stall team which focusses around toxic spikes. Defensive mons tend to be not good in doubles because of focus (and less toxic spikes victim) and the field heavily disrupts my strategy. Luckely I prepared for this match in E15 and my team pulled through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Uhhh... Joking aside, I'd have to say I didn't really accomplish that much in this episode compared to the last but I'd to sadly say 6-0ing Adrienn with a Metagross. Without it Xe wiped me out almost effortlessly with Gardevoir. There was a lot of little stuff to do and find which was fun (even if a bit of it was broken in the beta). It was a fun one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0mpa Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 A little bit of advice for EV spreads. There are 3 types of standard spread; Wall/Tank, Fast sweeper, Bulky sweeper. For a Wall/Tank spread what you want to do is have 252 (max) HP and then 252 in 1 of the defencive stats (this is to either help is weakness in a stat (like defence on chancey/blissey) or to further increase a defence (special defence on an umbreon)) and then the final 6 ev's in either the other defence stat or in its attacking stat. For a Fast sweeper you want 252 in speed, 252 in its attacking stat and the final 6 is HP. For a Bulky sweeper you want 252 in HP, 252 in its attacking stat and the last 6 in either of the defences. The reasons for this is though split defences/HP may sound nice in alot of cases they just don't hold up as because you split them you aren't great in either just alright in both and as later game gym leaders have propper EV training very often the split defences just aren't enough to withstand attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojama Yellow Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 actually finishing the game (or everything that was done of it already) was enough of an accomplishment for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Arcana Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I'm only two badges in, but I think beating both leaders on my first shot was pretty good. I did only win with one Pokémon with minimal HP each time, but that 7HP was the different between victory and loss. I doubt I'll continue my streak, but it's fun while it lasts. Also, PWNing those steel gears of sadness with a team of 4 members, all with a 12ish level shortfall (and no fire type). I was so proud of those guys when we pulled through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Casual Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) For me, I have two big accomplishments. Spoiler The first was finally beating Samson's stupid fighting team! I like going in under leveled, as it often adds a challenge. As such, my Pokemon were ten levels under his. He kept destroying me, and I needed a way to beat him. Because of this, I decided to lead off with Leavanny and go for Nature Power, which turned into Acrobatics. This brought his first Pokemon down to red, allowing me to bring in my Noivern. Noivern then proceeded to use Air Slash with a Metronome equipped in order to decimate everyone, while also flinching the Lucario to secure the win. That felt awesome, as I really had to think how I would win with that team. The second accomplishment was against Adrienn. My team was bad against the Fairy type, as I had a Scrafty and Noivern on the team. Because of this, Scrafty was benched for Bronzong. Once again, everyone was ten levels under. I started the fight by having Noivern use Hurrican to change the field. Bronzong would then go for Trick Room. This made Heavy Metal Bronzong and Magnezone the fastest on the field, allowing them to decimate with Heavy Slam and Flash Cannon. When Bronzong went down, I just had to use Discharge while Swampert went for Rock Slide. It was another instance where I had to use what I had on me in order to win. Since then, my team has been trained up, but I was really proud of my team both times. Edited September 3, 2017 by Filthy Casual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengro Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 13 hours ago, St0mpa said: A little bit of advice for EV spreads. There are 3 types of standard spread; Wall/Tank, Fast sweeper, Bulky sweeper. For a Wall/Tank spread what you want to do is have 252 (max) HP and then 252 in 1 of the defencive stats (this is to either help is weakness in a stat (like defence on chancey/blissey) or to further increase a defence (special defence on an umbreon)) and then the final 6 ev's in either the other defence stat or in its attacking stat. For a Fast sweeper you want 252 in speed, 252 in its attacking stat and the final 6 is HP. For a Bulky sweeper you want 252 in HP, 252 in its attacking stat and the last 6 in either of the defences. The reasons for this is though split defences/HP may sound nice in alot of cases they just don't hold up as because you split them you aren't great in either just alright in both and as later game gym leaders have propper EV training very often the split defences just aren't enough to withstand attacks. This actually makes sense but feels like it requires some game knowledge which I dont have. Next time when struggle with the Gym leader i will try do in this way, thx. 7 hours ago, Filthy Casual said: For me, I have two big accomplishments. Hide contents The first was finally beating Samson's stupid fighting team! I like going in under leveled, as it often adds a challenge. As such, my Pokemon were ten levels under his. He kept destroying me, and I needed a way to beat him. Because of this, I decided to lead off with Leavanny and go for Nature Power, which turned into Acrobatics. This brought his first Pokemon down to red, allowing me to bring in my Noivern. Noivern then proceeded to use Air Slash with a Metronome equipped in order to decimate everyone, while also flinching the Lucario to secure the win. That felt awesome, as I really had to think how I would win with that team. The second accomplishment was against Adrienn. My team was bad against the Fairy type, as I had a Scrafty and Noivern on the team. Because of this, Scrafty was benched for Bronzong. Once again, everyone was ten levels under. I started the fight by having Noivern use Hurrican to change the field. Bronzong would then go for Trick Room. This made Heavy Metal Bronzong and Magnezone the fastest on the field, allowing them to decimate with Heavy Slam and Flash Cannon. When Bronzong went down, I just had to use Discharge while Swampert went for Rock Slide. It was another instance where I had to use what I had on me in order to win. Since then, my team has been trained up, but I was really proud of my team both times. 14 hours ago, FairFamily said: To me it would deafeating Adrienn with my stall team which focusses around toxic spikes. Defensive mons tend to be not good in doubles because of focus (and less toxic spikes victim) and the field heavily disrupts my strategy. Luckely I prepared for this match in E15 and my team pulled through. Yeah Adrienn was hard, ge was actually one of the toughest Gym leader for me, the reason why I was able to win against him is because I somehow flinched him 3 times in a row with rock slide. But that was when my EV and IV were completely garbage. Cant wait to face the new gym leader 8 hours ago, Star Arcana said: I'm only two badges in, but I think beating both leaders on my first shot was pretty good. I did only win with one Pokémon with minimal HP each time, but that 7HP was the different between victory and loss. I doubt I'll continue my streak, but it's fun while it lasts. Also, PWNing those steel gears of sadness with a team of 4 members, all with a 12ish level shortfall (and no fire type). I was so proud of those guys when we pulled through! Wow, even that I took fire type as starter I could not beat the Florida in first try nice job. You probably will struggle with some gym leader later on in the game for example the third leader, poison type, that person made my buy alot revive candies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengro Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 14 hours ago, Commander said: Uhhh... Joking aside, I'd have to say I didn't really accomplish that much in this episode compared to the last but I'd to sadly say 6-0ing Adrienn with a Metagross. Without it Xe wiped me out almost effortlessly with Gardevoir. There was a lot of little stuff to do and find which was fun (even if a bit of it was broken in the beta). It was a fun one though. Lol is Metagross that strong? Time to fins out when we are able to face Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEL Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Demolishing Victoria's E16 team with a Klinklang was pretty nice. Spoiler Type disadvantages stop mattering with Shift Gear + factory field boosts for your attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seel The Deal Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 20 hours ago, St0mpa said: A little bit of advice for EV spreads. There are 3 types of standard spread; Wall/Tank, Fast sweeper, Bulky sweeper. For a Wall/Tank spread what you want to do is have 252 (max) HP and then 252 in 1 of the defencive stats (this is to either help is weakness in a stat (like defence on chancey/blissey) or to further increase a defence (special defence on an umbreon)) and then the final 6 ev's in either the other defence stat or in its attacking stat. For a Fast sweeper you want 252 in speed, 252 in its attacking stat and the final 6 is HP. For a Bulky sweeper you want 252 in HP, 252 in its attacking stat and the last 6 in either of the defences. The reasons for this is though split defences/HP may sound nice in alot of cases they just don't hold up as because you split them you aren't great in either just alright in both and as later game gym leaders have propper EV training very often the split defences just aren't enough to withstand attacks. Actually, it's pretty common to run defense/special defense EVs rather than HP on a fast attacker spread (especially if it's a revenge killer) since you take one more switch-in to die from hazards. ANYWAYS my accomplishment was a no-damage Adrienn fight - lead with Tailwind/Defiant Braviary and Defiant Bisharp, both opposing 'mons miss, I get up Tailwind, and via Intimidate boosting my attack stats from Defiant I just OHKO'd xyr entire team with Slash (Braviary) and Iron Head (Bisharp). Only other 'mon to get off a move was Whimsicott because Prankster + double targeting Mawile, but the Tailwind it used (somehow) wasn't enough for it to outspeed me with its 126(127?) base speed on the next turn? Eh, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0mpa Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 22 hours ago, Seel The Deal said: Actually, it's pretty common to run defense/special defense EVs rather than HP on a fast attacker spread (especially if it's a revenge killer) since you take one more switch-in to die from hazards. That is not quite true. It is done that way because the pokemon in question at its level has an odd ammount of hp. So if the pokemon had odd hp you would put the last 6 points in a defence if the poke had even hp you would put the points in hp to make it odd. With the exception of belly drum berry holding users as they want belly drum to do exactly 50% of their hp to trigger the berry healing (they want even hp). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seel The Deal Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, St0mpa said: That is not quite true. It is done that way because the pokemon in question at its level has an odd ammount of hp. So if the pokemon had odd hp you would put the last 6 points in a defence if the poke had even hp you would put the points in hp to make it odd. With the exception of belly drum berry holding users as they want belly drum to do exactly 50% of their hp to trigger the berry healing (they want even hp). As far as I know, a 'mon with an odd number of HP IVs at level 100 will always have odd HP uninvested. Unless you need 30 HP IVs for Hidden Power or, as you said, even HP for Belly Drum + Sitrus users, it's better to invest in Defense/Special Defense. That's why I didn't go into as much detail as you did - the exact mechanics only matter for a handful of 'mons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Arcana Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 6:47 AM, Chengro said: Wow, even that I took fire type as starter I could not beat the Florida in first try nice job. You probably will struggle with some gym leader later on in the game for example the third leader, poison type, that person made my buy alot revive candies I think my new best accomplishment is beating him on my first go, without losing a single team member, despite the corrosive field being up. I do have a Meowstic and Donphan though, so I know that helped a lot. Shelly will probably slap me though cx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anstane Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Eh...maybe not "This Episode", but getting through E16 content with my Ice Mono with almost no trouble was quite nice. Shows that it's not having a hard time despite people insisting on it being horrible. For more explicit "This episode", my Water Mono run was successful, despite some notable hiccups (Fern, Fern, Fern, Fern, Ciel and Fern.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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