Shamitako Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 All of her moves scale off AP. Many AP items also offer CDR and mana regeneration. AP Sona is really good. All but one of Shaco's abilities scale off AP, same for Kennen. Many support items offer CDR, AP, and useful actives to help make up for their lack of built-in utility, Meanwhile they both provide plenty of damage even without going for a damage core Kennen is meh without a Kalista because he's literally a less reliable Annie. And Shaco is meh because his built in utility is extremely lacking, consisting of only a slow and a fear AP Sona is great so long as you're not taking up the support slot to do it Don't complain about people doing the exact same thing you're doing. Playing a non-meta build on a meta champ is no different than playing a non-meta champ with a meta build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Ya know, fek Kindred top with Rek'Sai :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 This run last night led to this. I'm getting my plat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 "They're not just oranges, they're blind global ults to steal 2 dragons" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 And people say Kindred is a better laner than jungler. The best thing was when Heca and I offed Ryze top (Sadly Heca did not survive) and Kassadin tried to chase me. We were both low and he teleported under our turret, and I likely would've died had I not popped my ult. Instead of waiting for it to end and heal then teleporting, he walked out of it into turret fire and died. Again, just because pros do stuff doesn't mean solo queue players should copy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foovy10 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) tfw when lucian says rekt-tangle when he wins a teamfight and then I say give me a sec and 2 minutes later I steal baron #RektPlusRektEqualsRektRektRekt Edited October 24, 2015 by foovy10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 tfw when lucian says rekt-tangle when he wins a teamfight and then I say give me a sec and 2 minutes later I steal baron #RektPlusRektEqualsRektRektRekt For once the BM gets punished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I need to work on stealing monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foovy10 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I need to work on stealing monsters. well i was a jungler and had smite to make it easier but its not that hard if you do it right. Being able to notice how much consistent damage is being done everyone 2 seconds (for example) to baron is very smart and already makes it easier since you know about what time when to throw a spell or to flash smite. Or you can just look at the health bar and if you have smite flash into baron pit when it has like 200 more health then the dmg your smite does(1000 smite dmg=1200 baron health) and usualy enemies panic and throw out tons of spells so you should be able to get it but dont expect to live unless your team is there. but if you try to steal with out a smite you either need to do tons of damage or the enemy jungler has to miss his smite. the best example of this ever Edited October 24, 2015 by foovy10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 well i was a jungler and had smite to make it easier but its not that hard if you do it right. Being able to notice how much consistent damage is being done everyone 2 seconds (for example) to baron is very smart and already makes it easier since you know about what time when to throw a spell or to flash smite. Or you can just look at the health bar and if you have smite flash into baron pit when it has like 200 more health then the dmg your smite does(1000 smite dmg=1200 baron health) and usualy enemies panic and throw out tons of spells so you should be able to get it but dont expect to live unless your team is there. but if you try to steal with out a smite you either need to do tons of damage or the enemy jungler has to miss his smite. Stealing objectives is actually quite easy, eye the health and how much your smite does. I've done the baron steal with a few different champs, the hardest is when you are ADC, possible but very difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 My best steal was Dragon as Tristana, or Baron as Nunu, but the latter isn't that uncommon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Build path Semi blind dragon steal from udyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 that video isn't a great example, better is a clip from gravity at the end of the split where move steals like 3 times in one game-- that one's not best because santorin holds his smite and piglet hits a big one out of blind luck. i changed my client language and the korean gods have given me the power to play like shit but still not lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 that video isn't a great example, better is a clip from gravity at the end of the split where move steals like 3 times in one game-- that one's not best because santorin holds his smite and piglet hits a big one out of blind luck. i changed my client language and the korean gods have given me the power to play like shit but still not lose Oh, hey Dyrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foovy10 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) i picked that video for a few reasons 1. that was fucking amazing 2. that was blind 3. piglet noticed how much damage they did over time before they cleared the ward so he knew when to fire. 4. same reason as 1. and how did you change the language? Edited October 24, 2015 by foovy10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 yeah but it didn't fit the smite contest you were speaking of. still a good video though, as salty as i am as a tsm fan there's a program you can use but i went into game files and changed the entire client Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 yeah but it didn't fit the smite contest you were speaking of. still a good video though, as salty as i am as a tsm fan there's a program you can use but i went into game files and changed the entire client that is the best example of how to change language. TSM vs OG is a good example of smite battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foovy10 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) I wish i had final boss or bad santa veigar D: Edited October 25, 2015 by foovy10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 2 DCs 1 Kench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroWraith Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 "It's all skill". Also, I love this Blitz <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Kindred does not need Devourer. They scale up enough with stacks for the late game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Kindred does not need Devourer. They scale up enough with stacks for the late game. How many times are you going to say they don't need devourer? Because it's like the 3rd time you have said this, we get it.That being said devourer is magic damage when you have an all ad team so there maybe instances when devourer would be a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Kindred doesn't really need Devourer, per say, but with Warrior her damage is at risk of falling off late game unless she gets absurdly fed. Devourer is more reliable in the late game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar of Grima Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Kindred doesn't really need Devourer, per say, but with Warrior her damage is at risk of falling off late game unless she gets absurdly fed. Devourer is more reliable in the late game. if you can get to late game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 s, for sneep snop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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