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[Another Felix]

Seeing as you didn't buy a sweeping lens after sightstone, you couldn't clear wards to counter enemy vision from two sightstones. Not to mention you seemed to be going for a more damage oriented path rather than utility to help out your team. While your team may have performed poorly, they're not 100% to blame.

I kind of needed to go for damage. The only ones who did anything were Ryze and me. Tristana left base in lane and died about 8 times, never saw her again. And when she did come back, well, look at her build. Lulu was absolutely incompetent, and Gragas was building tank like he's supposed to. Ryze wasn't great, but at least he was trying to play well. Hell he did the best on the team. I wouldn't have been so salty had our adc actually been competent. Lulu against LeBlanc, yes, it's understandable that she would lose lane. It's LeBlanc. Ryze and Tryn went pretty even until their jg ganked (Gragas didn't get a single one), and I fighting a 2 vs 1 because Trist did literally nothing in lane. She rocket jumped onto them at full health and proceeded to simply stand there.

And I kind of forgot about the red trinket.

[Shamitako]

Or you could have gone for more utility to help keep Ryze and Trist alive. Even the worst ADCs can still be of use when their support is able to keep them from dying. And of course Ryze was actually playing well so keeping him alive would have been nice

Also you forgot an item that could have turned the tide of the game if used properly. Never underestimate the power of vision

Not trying to say you're the entire reason your team lost, but you need to stop looking at what your team did wrong and find what you did wrong instead

Literally the only person on that team who has any right to complain is Ryze. From what you've said he had a jungler that didn't gank for him even though he was winning lane, a utility mid that got destroyed in lane, an ADC who did next to nothing, and a support who went damage instead of building the utility needed to help keep him alive (esp. since the aforementioned utility mid wasn't cutting it) and couldn't maintain at least semi-adequate vision control due to lack of red trinket

And even then I bet he made plenty of mistakes himself that if he hadn't made could have let him carry

[Avatar of Grima]

Good vision control is necessary, however you don't have to build damage, if you can build something like Zeke's Harbinger, it would have increased your damage as well as Ryzes seeing as it grants 20 bonus ap once it is charged

[Another Felix]

Finally broke my losing streak. I suppose I should try playing ADC more often. Draven highlights include saving Leona with E from Vayne and TF Ult and proceeding to off TF with Warwick's help, sniping Thresh with axes from the fountain, and watching TF use Zonyha's at half health while Draven stood over him with a spinning ax. Draven taunted and then ended his miserable life, which helped take Baron.

What should my last item have been? If they had a tank I would normally build Last Whisper, but wasn't sure what to do here. Maybe just a second IE?

[anethia]

Finally broke my losing streak. I suppose I should try playing ADC more often. Draven highlights include saving Leona with E from Vayne and TF Ult and proceeding to off TF with Warwick's help, sniping Thresh with axes from the fountain, and watching TF use Zonyha's at half health while Draven stood over him with a spinning ax. Draven taunted and then ended his miserable life, which helped take Baron.

What should my last item have been? If they had a tank I would normally build Last Whisper, but wasn't sure what to do here. Maybe just a second IE?

Get LW anyway. There was still some armor they had that it would help get through, just to ensure you did enough damage; and if they got more armor, you'd already have the LW there. Not to mention it's a core item on ADc's; and would give you more damage anyway considering Thresh gets armor from his souls and base armor on everyone else.

I'm not really big on the whole exact percentage and gold value and shit; so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I still think it would have been worth it. Especially since they had Frozen Heart and Zhonyas; I'm confident it would be at least somewhat gold efficient.

Or a Youmuu's Ghostblade, which is a nice item on Draven and is more effective than LW until they get 51.1 armor last time I checked. Synergises with his kit and a few extra bonuses like the penetration.

[Avatar of Grima]

Get LW anyway. There was still some armor they had that it would help get through, just to ensure you did enough damage; and if they got more armor, you'd already have the LW there. Not to mention it's a core item on ADc's; and would give you more damage anyway considering Thresh gets armor from his souls and base armor on everyone else.

I'm not really big on the whole exact percentage and gold value and shit; so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I still think it would have been worth it. Especially since they had Frozen Heart and Zhonyas; I'm confident it would be at least somewhat gold efficient.

Or a Youmuu's Ghostblade, which is a nice item on Draven and is more effective than LW until they get 51.1 armor last time I checked. Synergises with his kit and a few extra bonuses like the penetration.

Ghost Blades active is nice for the extra crit, however I would say go with Last Whisper and a red elixir if you didn't already have one. Another thing, as ADC, you should switch to blue trinket, it gives vision and helps you snipe targets like dragon or baron if you see the other team starting it

[Shamitako]

So apparently I play really well when I can't see straight

I would complain about my back hurting, but TBH, by the end of the game everyone--even Koggy who fed the shit outta Zed (I told him not to take Ignite... )--was pulling their own weight

I may be the only one who didn't lose lane miserably (two deaths at the end of laning compared to the next lowest at 5) but I managed to help just enough in teamfights to get Trist and Koggy back on their feet and dealing damage... Well, mostly Trist, Koggy did most of his damage with his passive >_>

But the highlight has got to be when I 1v1'd Zed inside my ulti. I flanked their team and just hopped on Zed right after he used his shadow and when he was in just the right spot so that he was isolated from his team. And then I wailed on him

[Avatar of Grima]

So apparently I play really well when I can't see straight

I would complain about my back hurting, but TBH, by the end of the game everyone--even Koggy who fed the shit outta Zed (I told him not to take Ignite... )--was pulling their own weight

I may be the only one who didn't lose lane miserably (two deaths at the end of laning compared to the next lowest at 5) but I managed to help just enough in teamfights to get Trist and Koggy back on their feet and dealing damage... Well, mostly Trist, Koggy did most of his damage with his passive >_>

But the highlight has got to be when I 1v1'd Zed inside my ulti. I flanked their team and just hopped on Zed right after he used his shadow and when he was in just the right spot so that he was isolated from his team. And then I wailed on him

That kog maw build is weird

[Vex]

I got reported for scripting

[Avatar of Grima]

I got reported for scripting

I think I would have reported myself for being madlife. That could be your defense

[anethia]

So apparently I play really well when I can't see straight

I would complain about my back hurting, but TBH, by the end of the game everyone--even Koggy who fed the shit outta Zed (I told him not to take Ignite... )--was pulling their own weight

I may be the only one who didn't lose lane miserably (two deaths at the end of laning compared to the next lowest at 5) but I managed to help just enough in teamfights to get Trist and Koggy back on their feet and dealing damage... Well, mostly Trist, Koggy did most of his damage with his passive >_>

But the highlight has got to be when I 1v1'd Zed inside my ulti. I flanked their team and just hopped on Zed right after he used his shadow and when he was in just the right spot so that he was isolated from his team. And then I wailed on him

what the FUCK is that kog'maw build.

a 40 minute game without upgraded boots and no zhonyas

jesus fucking christ what the fuck

[Shanco]

the sick auto attack resets

You don't actually get an autoattack reset with Tiamat or Ravenous Hydra. You do with Titanic Hydra though, although your situations on which you'd be able to put it to good use would be few and far between. So it would make sense if he finished the item pronto, but you were winning, so who cares.

what the FUCK is that kog'maw build.

a 40 minute game without upgraded boots and no zhonyas

jesus fucking christ what the fuck

I'm more irked by the lack of Archangel's or magic penetration in any form. Just a haunting guise would have done volumes for him.

[anethia]

You don't actually get an autoattack reset with Tiamat or Ravenous Hydra. You do with Titanic Hydra though, although your situations on which you'd be able to put it to good use would be few and far between. So it would make sense if he finished the item pronto, but you were winning, so who cares.

I'm more irked by the lack of Archangel's or magic penetration in any form. Just a haunting guise would have done volumes for him.

i'm more irked by his 101 farm in a 40 minute game.

how

[Shamitako]

I'm mostly irked at the lack of Luden's

But honestly, IDFK what he was doing. At least he did damage ocassionally

[Avatar of Grima]

I'm mostly irked at the lack of Luden's

But honestly, IDFK what he was doing. At least he did damage ocassionally

occasionally, that shouldn't be a word associated with AP Kog Maw

may have been an ARAM but I did build AP Kog

[Dark Desire]

[Avatar of Grima]

this is why you ban Raka

[Ringabel]

My thought after the battle:

[anethia]

bla bla bla nidalee is brokenn bla bla bla well i mean she is op rn bla bla bla bla bla

[Shamitako]

I wouldn't recommend getting both Nashor's and Runaan's

[diana]

you do get them both, though. extra on hit magic damage applied by all bolts, CDR, 80 AP, and a huge dps increase.

[Shanco]

Nashor's still isn't great on Teemo. There's other things he benefits better from - magic penetration, heal reduction, perhaps a Luden's; hell, even Rylai's is pretty good on him because of that damn blind.

If you want damage from autoattacks, you should grab a Lich Bane. You'll want to go Nashor's instead if the other team is considerably beefy and try to rip them apart with DPS.

EDIT: Runaan's is even worse on him, and Nashor's + Runaan's together is extreme overinvestment in autoattacks. Kayle can get away with it because she has range and can kite really well, but Teemo...nope.

[Ringabel]

I'm gonna be honest here. I don't mind the play feedback. But I more wanted talk about my kill count and the other image than the match history one I made and posted. I mean, thanks and all. But I thought that joke image I made was really funny.

[anethia]

[Avatar of Grima]

nice job Box Box