Shanco Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Ryan C here. In light of realizing that I didn't do a monocolor this weekend like I had planned (it was supposed to be black), I had decided to celebrate the coming of winter with this team. I thought of this song, done by one of my favorite bands ever, the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Cool winter song to sing along as you read this. Hehe...get it? Cool? Yeah, Roo the Baka would be proud. (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Snow Warning EVs: 200 HP / 52 Atk / 172 Def / 84 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Ice Shard - Wood Hammer - Substitute => Swords Dance (Summer) - Leech Seed => Ingrain (Summer) Weather lead. What, you think I would name this team "All HAIL team #8a" for nothing? Anyhow, this set runs the SubSeed strategy and works with Abomasnow's decent defenses. Ice Shard is priority and bypasses Abomasnow's bad Speed, which leaves a bit to be desired. Have you ever seen Abomasnow's Wood Hammer? Heh heh heh heh...it hurts. Not even joking. It does a lot of damage. Substitute and Leech Seed work well together, especially in a lead spot where it might scare Tyranitar and Politoed away. (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Overcoat EVs: 252 HP / 20 Atk / 236 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Brick Break - Dragon Dance - Wish => Toxic (Wish is actually from Gen 3 and thus not compatible with Overcoat) Bulky attacker. "Do you have a weather-resisting ability?" "Do you have an awesome defensive typing?" "Congratulations, you've made the team." This one has some unique commodities that set it apart from other Dragon-types, as defensive Dragons are pretty darn awesome. Dragon Clawis its STAB, and Brick Break hits everything the other fails to hit well for neutral damage or better. Dragon Dance allows me to focus more EVs on defensive stats. (F) @ Focus Sash Trait: Snow Cloak EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Taunt - Hail => Destiny Bond (Summer) - Blizzard - Shadow Ball Utility sweeper. Froslass provides some kind of entry hazard setter while having some hax factor. Taunt stops stuff like Stealth Rock which can really ruin my day. Destiny Bond is a life-saver (how ironic). Blizzard works well with the Hail. Shadow Ball is the secondary STAB that punishes Espeon for stepping in Taunt's way. (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Super Luck / Justified EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Sucker Punch - Night Slash - Superpower - Megahorn Scarfer. I wanted the Adamant Nature to unleash full power even though things like Jolteon will outspeed it even without the scarf. Hell with it. It's about the POWER!!!! Sucker Punch is STAB and helps guard against Absol's poor defenses. Night Slash is the main reason I considered Super Luck as an ability over Justified, but not the only reason. Superpower takes care of coverage woes. Megahorn is another way to deal serious damage, though without the drawbacks of Superpower. Back to the abilities, which I'm looking for your input on. Super Luck is a nice ability, and I'd rather have that on Absol as Night Slash is dangerous; however, it can become completely null sometimes because if you have no luck, you don't have super luck. Meanwhile, there's also the option of making Absol into a wanna be Muskedeer with Justified. Great ability for switching Absol in for Froslass, but most Dark-type attacks aimed at Froslass would probably be Pursuit. Well, sometimes I do get a Crunch or Dark Pulse thrown at me. But either way, it, like Super Luck, can come up flat, although Justified's more of a sure thing. I dunno. You guys tell me what I should do. (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Ice Body EVs: 100 HP / 252 SAtk / 156 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Blizzard - Autotomize - Hidden Power [Fighting] - Protect / Substitute Sorta bulky sweeper. This Pokemon combines the heal factor of Ice Body with some prevalent overall stats and an okay movepool. Blizzard needs no explanation. Autotomize serves as a double purpose, but it will mainly be for the Speed boost. Hidden Power [Fighting] adds five to the list of types that Vanilluxe hits super-effective and gives it a more reliable option in other weathers. The last move is a toss-up which I am looking for some input on, but in either case it will be used to get an opportunity to heal Life Orb damage. (M) @ Life Orb => Leftovers (mistake fixed) Trait: Steadfast EVs: 252 Atk / 44 Def / 212 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Drain Punch - Swords Dance - Will-O-Wisp - Psycho Cut / Shadow Sneak Offensive supporter. Gallade also gets resistances to help counter the fact that three Pokemon are weak to Fighting, and three are weak to Rock. is the STAB to counter the Life Orb damage. Swords Dance jumps on the defensive stat-ups, but I'll usually wait until I get a specially focused Pokemon or burn the opponent with Will-O-Wisp. I'm thinking about both Psycho Cut and Shadow Sneak. Which one should I choose? Below is the importable. Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Snow Warning EVs: 200 HP / 52 Atk / 172 Def / 84 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Ice Shard - Wood Hammer - Swords Dance - Ingrain Shelgon (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Overcoat EVs: 252 HP / 20 Atk / 236 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Brick Break - Dragon Dance - Toxic Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash Trait: Snow Cloak EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Taunt - Destiny Bond - Blizzard - Shadow Ball Absol (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Super Luck EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Sucker Punch - Night Slash - Superpower - Megahorn Vanilluxe (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Ice Body EVs: 100 HP / 252 SAtk / 156 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Blizzard - Autotomize - Hidden Power [Fighting] - Protect Gallade (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Steadfast EVs: 252 Atk / 44 Def / 212 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Drain Punch - Swords Dance - Will-O-Wisp - Psycho Cut First 5 battles (in tier BorderLine unless otherwise stated): 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Have at it! Edited October 29, 2012 by rc52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) I've played Abamasnow before in my weather days. Trust me, you would rather Sword Dance over Sub. Obama here has good typing resistence although it would seem frail. SD supports Life Shard and Wood Hammer a lot too. Replace leech seed with ingrain, it's unlikely anyone would stay in unless they are confident of taking Obama in one hit, thus making setting up difficuit. On Froless, it would seem better if you took out hail and gave it destiny bond. Only half of your team benefit from hail and it isn't even offensively. Besides hail would shave Leftovers off. What's the HP EVs for if you put a sash on it? Might as well as invest it into it's already deadly SPATK. You really ought to have a spinner. I would recommand Delibird cause it's... white? Life orb and hail against Gallade? Instant gg. I may not seem like it but I used to build Hail teams. Have fun! Edited October 29, 2012 by Summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yeah, you seem more like a sun guy, seeming as you normally go by Sawsbuck on the server I've always been skeptical about letting Abomasnow set up. I will give your suggestion a shot, though. Froslass's bad set was a by-product of making Froslass into an offensive utility. Let's get that fixed... Delibird is cool. One problem. It's Ice/Flying. I don't think it'd be good to use except on the main mono-white where I'd run Volcarona. Shit. I meant to give Gallade Leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Spikes is sooooo overrated, especially on a more frail Pokemon. Already replaced Hail with Destiny Bond anyway. Already replaced Wish on Shelgon. Crunch doesn't do a whole lot for it, at least not as much as Toxic. Alright, Shadow Sneak it is, then. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Cryogonal works if you want a white-ish Spinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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