X% Hype!!! [E18 Dev Discussion Thread]

[ShadeStrider]

I like Fern more than I like Florinia. 

[Commander]

27 minutes ago, Egzample said:

Guys, from minor tweaks, would it be possible, to make the area near the sister's cottage burnt after we burn the field in-battle? Just the strip between the fighters. Personally, I like such small details, but I'm not sure how much of a work effort it would take.

While it would be possible, graphics would have to be made and every tile would have to be an event. That many events could end up making that area lag quite a bit. But there is the whole meta joke about how fields don't affect the overworld. There are fields that do affect the overworld such as the sableye event, Serra and Adrienn's gyms, and Telkinite Cave.

 

8 hours ago, Khaisz said:

Tempted to fill out the form, But I'm not sure exactly what I would be doing as a Beta Tester, I assume play the game, but what more?

20 hours ago, Commander said:

I do want to say the early access does come with a little price. If you aren't willing to give roughly a paragraph long post of feedback as well as report I'd say 10-30 bugs, I wouldn't apply to beta test. A bug is simple stuff like tile errors (aka tiles you shouldn't be able to walk on but can or tiles that you can't walk on but should), typos, crash errors, sprite errors (I'm going to check if those certain mega sprites are fixed like Mega Sceptile), and anything that doesn't look right. It's not a lot of work, but that's kind of the minimum of what Ame is looking for when accepting people. That and...people who wouldn't leak or spoil the game.

Funny how the answer was only a few posts above the question

[Egzample]

42 minutes ago, Commander said:

While it would be possible, graphics would have to be made and every tile would have to be an event. That many events could end up making that area lag quite a bit. But there is the whole meta joke about how fields don't affect the overworld. There are fields that do affect the overworld such as the sableye event, Serra and Adrienn's gyms, and Telkinite Cave.

Yeah, I know that, was just wondering what it takes to make one of these areas. On the technical side, what about places like Shade's gym? Lighning the area doesn`t need an event-tile?

[murcrow]

5 minutes ago, Egzample said:

Yeah, I know that, was just wondering what it takes to make one of these areas. On the technical side, what about places like Shade's gym? Lighning the area doesn`t need an event-tile?

Not really, the darkness is a separate thing. The tiles are already there, they just have an overall map dark sort of effect that suffers the event

[ShadeStrider]

 As for the Subject of Beta testing.... I'll just wait for the community release.

 

 

Geez, Alpha testing was shorter than I thought it would be. Am I dreaming?

[wcv]

1 hour ago, ShadeStrider said:

 As for the Subject of Beta testing.... I'll just wait for the community release.

 

 

Geez, Alpha testing was shorter than I thought it would be. Am I dreaming?

I'll be the first to admit I don't know precisely how the whole thing works, but perhaps its not done. Could be that Ame got a list of issues to work out that was posted, and has now mostly fixed those, but more will come up and Alpha will last longer. Could also be that I'm totally wrong and it is almost done.

[Tacos]

3 minutes ago, wcv said:

I'll be the first to admit I don't know precisely how the whole thing works, but perhaps its not done. Could be that Ame got a list of issues to work out that was posted, and has now mostly fixed those, but more will come up and Alpha will last longer. Could also be that I'm totally wrong and it is almost done.

From the Development Blog:

 

"The application will be open for just a couple days, and beta testing will begin on the weekend!"

 

[wcv]

Just now, Tacos said:

From the Development Blog:

 

"The application will be open for just a couple days, and beta testing will begin on the weekend!"

 

Ah, didn't see that. But this is why I don't claim to be an expert on...well...anything come to think of it.

[Khaisz]

4 hours ago, Commander said:

 

Funny how the answer was only a few posts above the question

oh I kinda missed that post, well I'll see what I can do if I get accepted, After all I did find one tiny tile bug once in a E16 public release that let me walk on the handrails in the train station.

[Tacos]

2 minutes ago, Khaisz said:

oh I kinda missed that post, well I'll see what I can do if I get accepted, After all I did find one tiny tile bug once in a E16 public release that let me walk on the handrails in the train station.

That's a public release though.  The majority of bugs get sifted through at that point, so you aren't going to find many.  Alpha and beta on the other hand... there can be a lot.

[Khaisz]

9 minutes ago, Tacos said:

That's a public release though.  The majority of bugs get sifted through at that point, so you aren't going to find many.  Alpha and beta on the other hand... there can be a lot.

Well I can just do my best in finding them if I get accepted I guess. Alpha had 350 or so bugs when Dev Blog first updated, and if I assume Beta has the same amount and we are 70 people testing, I would have to find at least 5 bugs I guess?

[Jess]

5 hours ago, Commander said:

Funny how the answer was only a few posts above the question

Well, don't be salty/uppity. He probably just missed it. It's not that your post was pinned or something and he should 100% read this before anything else. Try being more patient/tolerant towards people, it's nice.

[Commander]

1 hour ago, wcv said:

I'll be the first to admit I don't know precisely how the whole thing works, but perhaps its not done. Could be that Ame got a list of issues to work out that was posted, and has now mostly fixed those, but more will come up and Alpha will last longer. Could also be that I'm totally wrong and it is almost done.

Well sometimes a bug sometimes gets missed even after it's reported as it's honestly very difficult to test everything or even remember to change and fix 300 or so things. I know one bug that made it into the E16 beta was the charmander one making Charmander completely unobtainable. Another one was this weird goomy glitch that only happened to certain save files for some odd reason. Most glitches are easy fixes and can take probably half a minute. The AI likely is very stable since the base to work off of wasn't glitchy or crashed a lot once E17 community was released shaving off the bulk of time compared to last time.

 

49 minutes ago, Khaisz said:

Well I can just do my best in finding them if I get accepted I guess. Alpha had 350 or so bugs when Dev Blog first updated, and if I assume Beta has the same amount and we are 70 people testing, I would have to find at least 5 bugs I guess?

I do want to correct myself on something as you don't need to do anything but just play the game. It's just that when you see something odd, you should report it. If there are no bugs, that'd be amazing and nothing would need reporting (though feedback is always nice). That's very unlikely as most people usually experience at least 4 or 5 in the beta hence where the number came from. I simply said it that way because when choosing between two people who'd you pick: a guy who is going to say nothing or someone who is going to give helpful information or find mistakes and errors. E17 besides AI was pretty error free for me. I do have 5 bugs I'm going to check and see if they're fixed during the beta phase. But if I was going to take a wild guess, I'd take a shot in the dark and assume there are going to be 150-200 bugs found.

 

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Also, I cannot fathom how a single line spoken from me just simply pointing out the fact that I could quote myself from not that long ago to answer a question can be turned into me being "salty" or something. Snarky, maybe, but who honestly cares. If you guys get mad or upset over that when I wasn't even insulting anyone, I don't know what to tell you. But in all honesty if you are on the line, just fill out the application anyways. It's better to have too many than too little in a case like this. Worst case scenario is you have to wait a month week to a week and a half to play the game.

[Khaisz]

@Commander

Mkay,well I sent one in, let's see if I get accepted and how it goes if I do get accepted. 

I been considering starting a new savefile and test the starting area if I get accepted. 

 

Also, just to mention, I didn't find you salty or anything, I just made a simple mistake of not looking before asking which was my own fault. After you mentioned that you had said it I went back and it's kinda silly that I managed to miss a post that was like 3 posts above ame's answering just what I asked.

[BRS swag]

I thought I'd enroll myself but I'm very busy due to internship....................man, this sucks. I'll just wait 2-3 weeks then.

[Zander]

Oh wow the next episode is coming out in a month fully ready? Damn I literally just finished all the side quests until episode 17 or at least ones I could spot anyways. So in September there's the new episode. Would say can't wait but I'll have to hope that I actually get an internet connection on my pc again. Good luck to the development team.

[ShadeStrider]

So Beta Testing starts tomorrow. While we are waiting for the community release, Let's discuss the most important and interesting piece of Dialogue in the entire game. 

I even have appropriate discussion music. Since I've been comparing Lin to Sephiroth, I felt this is appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjD4zbkmNc

 

[kithas]

Isn't Lin just playing with Titania and the MC as she always does? If not, I think it's bc the MC is acting right into her plan. 

[Zander]

1 hour ago, ShadeStrider said:

So Beta Testing starts tomorrow. While we are waiting for the community release, Let's discuss the most important and interesting piece of Dialogue in the entire game. 

I even have appropriate discussion music. Since I've been comparing Lin to Sephiroth, I felt this is appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjD4zbkmNc

 

We basically collect all the bracelets and gems and stuff which Solaris needed to open the gate below Obsidia ward. So she probably feels like we are basically working for her because we will be easy to convince or beat.

[Commander]

7 hours ago, Zander said:

Oh wow the next episode is coming out in a month fully ready? Damn I literally just finished all the side quests until episode 17 or at least ones I could spot anyways. So in September there's the new episode. Would say can't wait but I'll have to hope that I actually get an internet connection on my pc again. Good luck to the development team.

I don't want to say that it's going to go one way or another, but my experience with the game was much, much smoother compared to other beta tests. I'm very confident it's going to be released in August. Even if it does take an additional month, I kind of think most people will go "it was worth the wait" this time around. I don't want to play any strings or tease as I feel it'll dampen the experience so please don't egg anything else out of me or anyone else. Actually, I guess there is one thing I can say:

 

It might be a good idea to work on that Pokedex.

[Zander]

24 minutes ago, Commander said:

I don't want to say that it's going to go one way or another, but my experience with the game was much, much smoother compared to other beta tests. I'm very confident it's going to be released in August. Even if it does take an additional month, I kind of think most people will go "it was worth the wait" this time around. I don't want to play any strings or tease as I feel it'll dampen the experience so please don't egg anything else out of me or anyone else. Actually, I guess there is one thing I can say:

 

It might be a good idea to work on that Pokedex.

Yeah I'm not the type of guy who likes spoilers on the game so I don't ask beta testers about the story at all. I don't even watch my favorite youtubers play the game if they start before me because I want a first hand experience. This game is just so engrossing that it's always worth the wait. I always wait for version X.1 instead of X because usually all the bugs are completely fixed and there's smooth gameplay. So maybe it'll be September for me anyways. Thanks for the heads up though, appreciate it.

Oh and is 180 pokemon in the Pokedex enough or a certain number would be better?

[Capll]

Oh, so the episode progressed this far, nice to know. Good job as always.

[Kamu]

4 hours ago, Commander said:

so please don't egg anything else out of me or anyone else.

 

I'm going to take this as a subtle hint

 

[ShadeStrider]

10 hours ago, Zander said:

We basically collect all the bracelets and gems and stuff which Solaris needed to open the gate below Obsidia ward. So she probably feels like we are basically working for her because we will be easy to convince or beat.

To be fair, Eli already has one of the gems, and He's working for team meteor. So, The MC really only needs the pendant.

That being said, wouldn't Lin... know not to underestimate us, since, we are taking the league challenge, and have proven to be stronger than DJ Arclight and Victoria. Is she being overconfident? We only need 2 badges before we reach the point where we can use Level 100's, but even then, It's not unreasonable to take on a team of Level 100s with a team of level 90s.

 

As for convincing us, we are supposed to side with the people in reborn. Will they make it a player choice?

 

Furthermore, wouldn't it be easier to take it from DJ Arclight or Victoria, since they aren't as strong as the player?

3 hours ago, Kamu said:

 

I'm going to take this as a subtle hint

 

Making the mother of all omelettes here, kamu. Can't fret over every egg.

[Zander]

57 minutes ago, ShadeStrider said:

To be fair, Eli already has one of the gems, and He's working for team meteor. So, The MC really only needs the pendant.

That being said, wouldn't Lin... know not to underestimate us, since, we are taking the league challenge, and have proven to be stronger than DJ Arclight and Victoria. Is she being overconfident? We only need 2 badges before we reach the point where we can use Level 100's, but even then, It's not unreasonable to take on a team of Level 100s with a team of level 90s.

 

As for convincing us, we are supposed to side with the people in reborn. Will they make it a player choice?

 

Furthermore, wouldn't it be easier to take it from DJ Arclight or Victoria, since they aren't as strong as the player?

Wouldn't Lin know to not underestimate us? I think you mean the opposite way by actually meaning that shouldn't we underestimate Lin. If you remember, Ame got clapped by Lin and her Hydreigon. Ame was the CHAMPION of Reborn. If she didn't stand a chance then us as the player will have a huge problem too. And if we get to side with team Meteor then I'm saving the game right there and doing both the routes. Don't care about morals, Lin is awesome enough for me to want to work with. And she has my favorite Pokemon of all time, Hydreigon. Also us as the player have the pendants and we haven't given it to Victoria or Arclight so I don't think they'll be much involved.