Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Yes, because it's a crime that fire starters are bipedal. It should be outlawed. I've talked about this before but I really don't understand why people shoot themselves in the foot with a railgun by disliking a mon they would otherwise like just because it's not a quadruped. The gen 6 starters were based on classic and popular RPG classes, the Rogue, the Knight and the Mage, and I don't see Greninja and Chesnaught serving as a mage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRS swag Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 So the shining armor of the otter finally broke. See ya oshawott. May you become a Samurott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 You killed the mage first. How is the magic shield supposed to work without them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Dorcas said: can yall stop bulbasaur and mudkip are like my favorite two starters Yes! The war must end! It shall serve as a reminder of the mutual destruction that two powerful sides can do to each other. We must move on from this atrocity an work together in peace! (and pledge Mudkip as best starter) @NickCrash Can I borrow one of those for Mudkip? 2 hours ago, Zarc said: Looks like anti cyndaquil are arrived. There are equal of cyndaquil haters as lovers. And considering hurt = -2 , and heal +1 it's over i guess. Never give up! Cynda can make it if we just believe! 41 minutes ago, Thiazzi said: Believe it or not, it is really coincidence, although I wouldn't mind if I could hurt Mudkip too (I really don't understand why people like Cyndaquil and Mudkip so much) Cuz everybody liekz Mudkip and Cynda is adorable. @Wolfox I don't hate any of the fire starters just for being bipedal, I actually think being bipedal worked in favor of the Gen I, Gen III, and Gen IV fire starters, but Incineroar should've stayed on the ground. It's supposed to be a tiger, so why make it stand on two feet? It's just plain stupid. " Oh.. but it's supposed to be a wrestler." We have too many god damn firefighters! It's like GF realized this and changed it to dark at the last second. Incineroar worst starter. Also, brings me to the question, would you consider Typhlosion bipedal or not? @BRS swag "This is already over. There is no need for your shining armor here." - Titania So Titania hates Oshawott confirmed. Got it. This is for Zarc, Sayia, and all those that are losing hope for our little one! -2 Totodile +1 Cyndaquil Bulbasaur: 16 Cyndaquil: 15 Totodile: 15 Mudkip: 14 Turtwig: 9 Chimchar: 5 Piplup: 20 Chespin: 19 Rowlet: 15 Popplio: 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayia Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 @Dragoknight I appreciate you healing Cyndaquil, but leave Totodile alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 That's honestly an answer I hate coming from the people saying Incineroar should have stayed a quadruped. "Because it's a tiger and tigers are supposed to walk on 4 legs!". so are foxes, pigs, and lizards, but it's not a problem for them? The big reason (I belives, don't quote me on this) that we've had 3 fire fighting starters is that it's the easiest to combine those two. Fire is usually a badass and offensive type, and so is fighting. they're the two most offensive types in the entire game and combine they do a lot of shit right. You show me a gen where the fire starter was the bulky one if the trio. I can tell you that the only one coming close is Emboar, but Serpirior is actually the Bulkier starter in gen 5. If you don't like a mon it's fine, but just don't say "It should have been this because of this and this" because GameFreak did what they did for a reason. Just trust that they made the right one and try to like a mon despite your first impression. I used to hate the Popplio line but now it's my favorite starter line in general. Just look beyond the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) @SayiaOh.... okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Edited January 22, 2018 by Dragoknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, Wolfox said: Yes, because it's a crime that fire starters are bipedal. It should be outlawed. I've talked about this before but I really don't understand why people shoot themselves in the foot with a railgun by disliking a mon they would otherwise like just because it's not a quadruped. The gen 6 starters were based on classic and popular RPG classes, the Rogue, the Knight and the Mage, and I don't see Greninja and Chesnaught serving as a mage. It's not just the bipedal part. I don't like anything about it's design. The bipedal part is just getting old that's why I also mentioned that. I know what they're supposed to represent but for me personally the mage failed hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 that's fine, but don't use the Bipedal quadruped as an excuse, because, as I've said in the past, just disliking a mon over that is just a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I didn't use it as an excuse. I stated it as a part of the general reason why. Don't just jump to conclusions while disgarding 3/4 of the other reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 @Wolfox Yeah, I second Chim. I think Incineroar would look better as it currently is as not bipedal, but overall I just don't like it. When your riding fighting types for 4 gens, you gotta step it up. While I'm sure GF could very well make an interesting bipedal 'mon (I think Charizard, Blaziken, and Infernape look better bipedal), I just think it went terribly with Incineroar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I understand we've had enough bipedal fox pokemon. For me, Delphox has a nice design. I don't compare it to the likes of Alakazam (simplicity due to gen1) or Zoroark (for whom illusion should also appear on the design), simply because we shouldn't. Incineroar takes a step further into this, and for me looks like a cross-breed between an Arcanine and Machamp. The fact that it's unoriginal is what repulses me. I would prefer a tiger pokemon being quadripedal (even tho I already got that from Lando-T), but this doesn't seem like they tried, or had alternative designs. Some GF artists have been consistent in creating the worst ones, and Incineroar looking like they do is probably that kind of fault. Anyway, let's move on. Delphox was cool, Infernape was cool, Charizard was cool, Typhlosion was cool (it's quadripedal - it's just standing up like dogs do). Emboar is the 3rd of its line, so since it's not awesome, it's defacto bad. @Dragoknight Sorry. Mudkip is 5th in my list of preference, right below Piplup. It's has a wide fanbase. It will survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I'm not 100% sure if you all know this, but the Manga/Anime/Name of Tiger Mask carries a lot of weight in Japan. To the point where real live wrestlers have taken up the mask and name like the character in the Manga. With that said, don't you think that if the creator of Incineroar let his fandom of that speak a little. I mean he was finally allowed to create a Tiger Pokémon and Tiger Mask was the first thing that came to mind. And, seeing as it carries so much in Japan, the people behind gen 7's acceptances accepted it, as it allowed them to mix their culture and WWE in a mon. so what if it looks like a fighter, it does look cool and Menacing but Friendly, right? I've talked about people hating Incineroar just because it resembles a fighter in the past, as well, and I'm still baffled that that's another reason people shoot themselves in the foot with. if you don't like it, fine. I can't force you to agree with me. but at least try to understand the reasons Gamefreak has for their choices instead of just saying "It's wrong, it should have been this and that and RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH" because that get's old really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) @Wolfox Ummm..... I think Incineroar is an ugly pokemon for my own reasons. I understand the inspiration behind it, but to me, the design falls flat. Can we just agree to disagree? And please don't lump me up with the blind haters. Edited January 22, 2018 by Dragoknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 cyndaquilers picked a fight with bulba-warriors, that's all there is to it!!! nothing personel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Unless I know the reason someone hates a certain mon I do group them there because I don't know their not. An example is @Jess. Xe hates Incineroar because it's too edgy. But others I've spoken to just say "because it's not a quadruped". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 honestly, it's hard to hate staters, i only really dislike 3 or 4, and usually because they're either overrated or don't live up to their potential(and none of them is alive). the rest am either neutral or actually really like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wolfox said: Unless I know the reason someone hates a certain mon I do group them there because I don't know their not. An example is @Jess. Xe hates Incineroar because it's too edgy. But others I've spoken to just say "because it's not a quadruped". Well thats the problem. The main reason I hate Incineroar is because it goes from this: to this: i.e. cute to wtf just happened. Now if a more vicious looking 'mon like Mightyenaevolved into it then I would like it much more. But it ruined my cute 'lil baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I actually dislike Torracar. it just doesn't look nice to me. Incineroar looks awsome to me tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 @Wolfox And to each their own. please don't judge me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I won't. I can't force people to agree with my opinions nor should I try to. I can get pretty vocal about it when I can't wrap my head around things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Sorry.... I didn't mean to start anything by it. Can we go back to the pixie hurt n heal where we agree Celebi is the best pixie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 didn't joni that one cause i don't care about any of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Onion beats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 May the Onion Lord reign supreme!.... Oh shit! I've crossed the beams! We're all doomed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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