Alisae Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Ye its night don't post I'll do flips and all of that stuff when I get back from class (4-5 hours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Votecount 2.6 Newt (7) - Meteor Admin Divergent, Venus, Lord Drakyle, Bazaro, NickCrash, Alistair, LykosHand Meteor Admin Divergent (1) - Newt Not Voting (3) - Amine Chankey3ft7, DigitalAmber, Paul25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Welcome to the End Day Update! 1-shot Tracker - 201$ 2-shot Doctor - 250$ 1-shot Doctor - 251$ 1-shot Cop - 500$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Newt was lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie. NickCrash is the new Marketplace Owner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Okay everyone is updated now its night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I just wanted to say That I am The best jester you will ever see Even though I was not a jester, but shhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Lord Drakyle was shot night 2. He was a Vanilla Townie. The following abilities are up for auction now! 1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Day Vigilante 2-shot Tracker 1-shot Roleblocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I suppose you will be wanting to hear my final words? hmm, well here it is. In my hand is a cup of tea, I am sipping from it while I judge you all. Now I will return to the peaceful realm of death I am in, where no one else to bother me is, enjoying my tea. You may continue whatever it is you...do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (○-○)/... Alright, play time's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Here are the players who voted against innocent Jace: Meteor Admin Divergent, Alistair, Lord Drakyle, Paul25, Newt, LykosHand, Bazaro, Amine Chankey3ft7, Venus And the players who voted against innocent Newt: Meteor Admin Divergent, Venus, Lord Drakyle, Bazaro, NickCrash, Alistair, LykosHand Drakyle is dead and confirmed innocent. I'm aware of my own innocence, and Lykos (in spite of his vote) advised against lynching Newt in a rather genuine manner. I'm giving him towncred, although he's not completely off the radar. That leaves us with a list of 3 potentially guilty players who willingly eliminated 2 townies in a row: Meteor Admin Divergent, Bazaro, Venus. I'm willing to bet at least 1, probably 2 of them are mafia. All 3 would be surprising because I trust our mafia friends to be smart enough to not put all their eggs in the same basket. For this reason, other players such as Paul25, Amine and Nick remain mildly suspicious. Nonetheless, I suggest focusing on Divergent, Bazaro and Venus for the time being. @Mafioso Divergent, @Bazaro, @Venus I would greatly appreciate reports on your past actions, such as bidding, and your current reads on other players. If you're innocent, your help is needed more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Alistair I have little confidence right now because I wholeheartedly believed Jace and Newt to be mafia on both days I started a lynch on them :/ But I'm not giving up yet, although my mistakes are getting us closer to LYLO. Here are my statements for now: (1) You can't remove those who didn't vote for Jace on D1, considering that everyone else who didn't voted on Newt instead, whom we all know is innocent, so we're all reasonably suspicious. Similarly, you can't remove those who didn't vote for Newt last day because they chose the safe way and didn't vote. (2) I got the 1-Shot Doctor and protected Amine last night to no avail. It's weird the mafia didn't target him after he claimed watcher; something we could look into but I'm not putting too much of my hopes on it anymore. (3) Reads: 9 Players Alive - 3 of which are Mafia Townreads: - Alistair: You have given good contributions and you have been decently scumhunting. I appreciate the vote on me last phase because it means that you're actually trying for something, unlike others who simply sheeped along. - LykosHand: Initially a scumread, I think I have been merely been prejudiced and grasped at straws for making him out as mafia. I think that the willingness to vote for me and ask for Newt's innocence is good and contribution has been decent. - Divergent: As much as I don't trust my reads quite so, unfortunately, I am still town. Maybe Townlean: - Amine: He has been inactive for the most part, but his inactivity is justified with his honesty in previous matters; I think the comments he made have been genuine thus far. - NickCrash: He's made an effort in the game to analyze things; although, he hasn't been scumhunting much, I think the efforts he exerted are decent. - Paul25: He has tried to contribute at least; not too confident with his reads, but I feel that the notion of scumreading himself feels genuine and he seems to be honest all game. Scumreads: - Venus: I realize I've been townreading him all game when all he's been doing is just follow on my votes in both days; perhaps trying to buddy me, so that it's hard to doubt him. He has hardly contributed to the game unlike his town counterpart which comes up with wicked theories and is risky. - Bazaro: Decently inactive, feels suspicious that he didn't bring up the "vote for me" scenario again in D1; easily sheeped to my votes and hasn't provided much in the way of game progress - Digital Amber: I don't remember any of his posts at all; seems to be laying back in the background, either sheeping on votes or missing out on voting to avoid suspicion. I don't want to start a lynch I might regret... again, so I'll just go and say I'm hardly sure if my reads are accurate. It's up to you guys to judge correctly; better that way, rather than following something blindly. [Vote] Venus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 btw, I just updated the op now with a section to show who's alive, and a section to show who died and what their flip was. Hope this is helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Alisae that's really helpful. I've been using a notebook to write down all this, but you just made it easier. Alright something about @Mafioso Divergent's note is correct: I am not scumreading enough. Truth be told, I am not good at it yet. This (and Circus Maf) are my first mafia games on this server, and I am more inclined to trust hard evidence than try to read between the lines on what people write. In other words, it will need practice, so don't expect that to be too effective from my part, or interpret it as scummy behavior. I was expecting Drakyle to be mafia, so I am somewhat relieved I no longer have to doubt him, but it feels bad for another townie to die. As for Dive, I'm not sure what their alignment is right now. I have a neutral read on him, and a positive for Lykos and Alistair. As for Bazaro and Amine, I have no idea what their motives are in these games. They just follow bw, which is scumread (sure) or just lazy play due to no evidence. I mean, I already doubted Newt because of his jester-like behavior (I wrote that he wouldn't break character) so I'm not sure how to vote yet. In other news, I am glad to announce all the roles I enhanced were included in today's auction. As you can deduce, the less roles there are, the easier it is for me to include the ones town needs. That means, low chances for a strongman or godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) "That's wrong." Let's see...Will you be able to break through my argument? ==================================== First of all, I never sheeped you in the first place, and saying that i did such a thing in both days is blatantly wrong. At the first day, I voted for Newt and then changed to Jace sheeping NickCrash. Yesterday, it's all an imagination. You think you're leading this game, but the only reason people sheep reads is because they have no better ideas. Besides, sheeping isn't wrong. If it was, players'd be voting each other making everyday a random lynch. It's an even worse situation that only relies on luck. Then again, you started both bandwagons on town, so why are you blaming this on everyone that has followed you? Edited January 26, 2018 by Sparkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 >Defends himself against the accusation of sheeping, then claims that sheeping isn't bad anyway >Tries to push the blame back on Dive >Doesn't give any information other than his voting intentions, which are impossible to verify >Ignored my ping and focused solely on Dive, who attacked him more directly >Uses theatrics (ok that's not really scummy in itself but that kinda looks like glitter in the eyes) My level of scum alert is pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 School just started for me, less time to do anything. Asking for people to vote for me D1 was just me having fun, if that's suspicion-worthy then idk. I didn't push anything. Like we said, whoever gets the title doesn't really matter I am not bandwagoning; I made my own decisions based on the arguments I saw in each Day. Just because I agreed doesn't mean I didn't read. Now, with that out of the way... Accusing people based solely on voting both times is incredibly foolish. Of course the Mafia will spread out their votes, especially when Townies get themselves lynched. There's no reason for them to dogpile onto these people when both cases have been one-sided votes. Instead of looking to the people who voted these people, we need to look for the people who started these pushes. We can safely exclude everyone who's already dead for obvious reasons. A thing I've noticed is about the night kills. Both of the victims were generally animated characters known to be slightly chaotic. I wonder if there's a method to this, perhaps they're trying to keep a serious debate going because the Mafia knows they can control a situation like this? It doesn't seem like the right kinds of targets to me. Maybe it's just a coincidence. 1 - Venus Always the star of the show, always butting heads, but never contributing much. He talks a lot, but often goes on strange tangents (not out of character) before flipping serious for a moment then back again. 3 - Alistair Not much to say, pretty good contributions, though a bit too uptight... 4 - Lykoshand Everyone seems suspicious of Lykos based on his awkward phrasing. I see a lot of people wanting his head, but perhaps they just want to start a bandwagon? 5 - DigitalAmber Has very short bursts of activity. Strongly pushes for Town goals, almost too strongly. 7 - Amine Chankey3ft7 Fairly inactive, follows bandwagon. 9 - NickCrash Assuming it is just inexperience in scumhunting, then he's an easy townread. 10 - Meteor Ace Divergent Very controlling this game, aggressive reads heavily leaning towards town. 13 - Paul25 Few posts, though his reads seem genuine. I won't cross out the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Bazaro Who's the mafia for you then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Honestly for me Dive isn't scum, at least i don't see any weird things or word, so i think that he is innocent. Also i really like his theories, they look really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Bazaro Nah, I don't think it's foolish. See, the delicate thing about being mafia is that you're always tempted to make sure townies get lynched, but at the same time you can't push too strongly or lead the way because that makes you suspicious on the following days (see Dive in this game). Usually mafs remain in the middle of bandwagons, unnoticed, sheeping while pretending to be thoughtful about it. I do believe voting behavior to be a strong hint about who's scummy and who isn't. 'Course, that doesn't mean we're gonna miraculously catch all mafs that way. But just one would be a great start, since we're kinda dry in this department for now. Btw slight towncred for you since your reads seem genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 In class so I'll make it quick. Not set in stone either cuz I don't like thinking like that Town Alistair, NickCrash, Divergent, Bazaro, Paul Mafia Venus, Lykos ??? Amber, Amine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Doesn't matter anyway. Unlike Dive, I don't play the victim card if I'm about to get lynched. So go ahead IMO, I'll be just like Newt. Lynched regardless of whatever I say. @Alistair: Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Spoiler >Defends himself against the accusation of sheeping, then claims that sheeping isn't bad anyway >Tries to push the blame back on Dive >Doesn't give any information other than his voting intentions, which are impossible to verify >Ignored my ping and focused solely on Dive, who attacked him more directly >Uses theatrics (ok that's not really scummy in itself but that kinda looks like glitter in the eyes) @Alistair: I'm saying that accusing someone because of sheeping is wrong, not the sheeping itself. Theathrics are fair, your posts hurt my eyes more Anyway, going back to Dive, I'll use real reasoning rather than mere gut feeling as I did with Jace and Newt. Using the "I wouldn't do this as mafia card". Common mafia post Leading bandwagons which both ended up as dead townies. - Power wolf aka dominant mafia Playing the victim card - Basically saying "I'm sorry I was wrong" or "...Damn it, I was sure this was mafia" the entire game each time a townie gets lynched. To me, there's only 2 players Dive can be. Either he can be the townie that will instead of scumhunting mafia will scumhunt town, making us lose or a dominant mafia. As I think that Dive has more experience than all of us, I doubt he'd fail twice unpurposefully. Mistakes can be made sometimes, but I really doubt it. It'd be like a fish faking that it can't swim lol Vote: Mafioso Divergent @LykosHand: Anyone you suspect right now or you think that everyone's innocent? Edited January 26, 2018 by Sparkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Unrelated Trolling There was once an Alisae who had a game in eirs steam library called PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS. E always though "This is a terrible game." Then it came out of early-access, and E thought "This is a great game." So E kept on playing and playing it. "AW MAN, I LOVE DROPPING AT SCHOOL AND STARTING UP SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND KILLING PEOPLE." E yelled estacticly at the monitor. Eventually, Alistair came to see what his twin was doing, because he noticed that his twin hadn't done the midday update for days. He opened the door to see his twin playing pubg and enjoying himself. However E hadn't did the midday update. So his twin promptly asked him "Hey, when are you going to do the midday update for your game. And you've been cheating on your diet!" pointing towards the bottle of Mountain Dew. E replied with eir's back towards Alistair "Busy, I gotta shoot these kids at school real quick." Time passed, and Alistair came back to poke his twin about the midday update. "Hey, its midnight and there's no midday update yet." Alisae, uninterestedly replied "I have to get this Chicken Dinner, leave me alone." Time passed, in fact 7 hours had passed, and Alistair checked in on his sib. He noticed something. "Did you stay up all night playing Pubg? wait...Is that shit?" Time passed, and Alistair came back wearing a gas mask. "Hey um, you kinda need to post the midday update now, and then after that we'll burn the house down. You got 5 minutes." Welcome to the Midday Update! 1-shot Bulletproof - 0$ 1-shot Day Vigilante - 0$ 2-shot Tracker - 500$ 1-shot Roleblocker - 0$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Votecount 3.7 Venus (1) - Meteor Admin Divergent Meteor Admin Divergent (1) - Venus Not Voting (3) - Alistair, @Amine Chankey3ft7, Bazaro, @DigitalAmber, @LykosHand, NickCrash, @Paul25 If you got tagged, you atleast either 1 post full of content or 2 posts by the end of the day phase please. (dead game makes a sad alisae) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The twin Alis is top meme I dig it so much! Anyway looks like we have 2 players voting each other, probably one of them being mafia (the actual mafs must be laughing their asses off if that's not the case) and idk what to believe anymore. I would just say that the "if I were mafia..." and saying sorry things aren't always maf things to do, I did that in the past even without being scum. So not a very conclusive argument imo. We're getting close to LyLo but we're not there yet right? I think I'll [Eliminate] Venus Dive, if Venus flips town you're next because I can buy you being wrong 2 times in a row, but 3 times would be a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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