Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Venus Hm, lemme think about it. No. It's obvious that the mafia is going to buy the Cop role. If they want to buy it, they will have to spend a great deal of money. And I'm going to die anyway, so I don't need to care about the money I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Still, what good is it, if you take it and die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, NickCrash said: Still, what good is it, if you take it and die? Let's say it's my revenge against everyone who killed me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I'm sure that we all will regret to have lynched Newt, i have this feeling that he's innocent. Too bad that i can't prove that, otherwise i would have saved him for sure. Dive if we found that he's innocent, i will start to suspect that you're scum. If he is Mafia, well feel free to suspect me btw. So here is my vote:[Eliminate] Meteor Admin Divergent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 First things first, is nobody caring that @Newt is purposefully depriving the town of an important role. That, my friends, is something that mafia would do as a final act towards getting lynched. I don't see how you're even siding with Newt when he's obviously mafia. ... well maybe that's because Alistair and Lykos are mafia. But I think that Alistair is inno whereas Lykos is mafia. Let's analyze his final statement: "I'm sure that we all will regret to have lynched Newt, i have this feeling that he's innocent. Too bad that i can't prove that, otherwise i would have saved him for sure.Dive if we found that he's innocent, i will start to suspect that you're scum. If he is Mafia, well feel free to suspect me btw. So here is my vote:[Eliminate] Meteor Admin Divergent" (1) So, I have a feeling that he's innocent. Why? I'm pretty sure you're someone who can explain better than feelings. (2) So you're lynching me based on what? Simply because you want to see how I flip or something? Any other accusations? (3) So... you won't regret lynching me? Why? Because I'm town while Newt... is your mafia partner? ----- I'll defend myself properly. (1) I started the lynch on Jace. It was a mistake because he was acting so scummy I just felt he was scum. Would I, as mafia, try to start a lynch on him if I could just get away with voting for Newt? After all, Newt has been bwed a couple of times and it's not implausible to just follow a random bw on D1. (2) If I were mafia, why would I pick Newt of all people when there are better people to pick from the bw on Jace last day? I'm here trying to lynch someone who I found is highly likely mafia because of the conclusions I made pertaining to Jace's flip as inno. (3) Why would I start lynches in the first place when it can easily backfire on me like what's happening right now? I'm a proactive player, but as mafia, I'm not stupid enough to do that tbh. All I can say is that, Newt's not being helpful right now. Shifty, vengeful, and overall suspicious, I'm voting for him. On the small chance he's actually town, it's fine, he's acting so anti-town that it's better to lynch him than not. Sorry for the aggressiveness, but that's the way I want to get my message. Hope it doesn't offend anyone >.< LYNCH.ME.AND.YOU.WILL.REGRET.IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Tagging relevant people: @Alistair @LykosHand Also, Lykos, do you actually have any response to my suspicion on you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 That's the Dive I know and love. [Unvote] Meteor Admin Divergent [Eliminate] Newt Still waiting to see Newt's alignment for myself, but the result should doubtlessly be decisive and allow us to see what's going on more clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Meteor Admin Divergent Dive, Dive. You say I'm obviously mafia. I can't wait to see your reaction when you discover I'm not. Of course, assuming youre town, because if you are mafia, you already know I'm inno. And you also say that I'm being Anti-Town. Of coursei I'm being. Do I have another choice? Everyone is accusing me, suspecting me, a putting me in a corner that there is no exit just for the freaking fact that I wanted to be the owner. I can't prove my innocence. What else do you think I can do? I can't do nothing. Honestly, if you are town, you are being a hypocrite, because it was you that put me in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Dive let me say that i voted too hastily on you, without hear your defense and honestly i was thinking to unvote you. But don't worry you didn't offend me. Anyway i will answer your question with pleasure. (1) So, I have a feeling that he's innocent. Why? I'm pretty sure you're someone who can explain better than feelings. I admit that i have no proof about that he's town and he is acting like a mafia one, but i'm not sure at 100% that he's scum for real. That's why i'm not sure to vote him. (2) So you're lynching me based on what? Simply because you want to see how I flip or something? Any other accusations? I have no accusation on you Dive, i voted you because i was too hurry to put a vote, i admit that. I'm really sorry for what i did, i have no proof about this situation. (3) So... you won't regret lynching me? Why? Because I'm town while Newt... is your mafia partner? Don't get me wrong, ofc i will regret to have voted on you if you will end up as a town. The thing is that now i'm regretting to have voted on you. And no i'm not scum, i'm just thinking that Newt isn't scum. At the end of the day, we will see if my theory is right or wrong and like i said if Newt is mafia for real, feel free to suspect me as his partner. After rereading all the post, i think Dive is really a town. I want to apologize with you. I hope you will accept my apologize. And don't worry about it Dive, you weren't rude, so i'm happy that you defended yourself in that way. I only hope that i haven't made you angry, that's all. I can say that next time i will not make again these kind of errors, i will try to do my best.@Meteor Admin Divergent Edited January 23, 2018 by LykosHand pinged one person and grammatical errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Oh forgot to add one more thing. [Unvote] Meteor Admin Divergent [Eliminate] Newt Let's see if he's town or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Quote First things first, is nobody caring that @Newt is purposefully depriving the town of an important role. Is my comment fucking invisible? Or is it that I'm stating it in the form of a question? original: Still, what good is it, if you take it and die? more proper English: You are depriving us from the cop-role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Newthh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @NickCrash The mafia will take it anyway. But I will do as you say and remove the bid. Hope you're happy. @LykosHand Don't. Don'tr trust Dive. You didn't commit any mistakes. You are right to think he is mafia. @Venushh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Newt I am not sure you can remove the bid. Besides, instead of removing it, you could just decrease it. Right now it just ensures no other town can bid for it. Given that people suspect you, it's not a sound move to limit all townies from approaching the role. That's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @NickCrash I mean, everything I do is suspicious, so... Well, I'll see if I can remove the bid, If I can't, I'll bid 1$ for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If Newt intends to purposely take the Cop role to the grave instead of letting a town player get it in order to use it to try help town win then this is how I feel about that. As a townie, Newt would still win if town wins, it makes no sense to deprive us of it because he feels a little sour about being lynched however there is something that still bothers me on the other side of it. As a Mafia, they could still make use of the role, yet he would deprive them of the chance for it to without bidding incredibly high which is bad for them, either way, Newt is being incredibly selfish to whoever he is sided with by alignment even though he could aid in his own overall win possibility even if he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Lord Drakyle Well, you said something true. Yes, I only think about myself. And from what I am seeing, everyone is already being manipulated by the mafia, so I won't change the results of this games, no matter what I do~ So why don't have a little fun before I die for a shit reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Newt Here's the thing, when I have done stupid shit or been lynched for stupid shit I either did it with intent to throw the opposing side off their game or simply reminded everyone right up until my death it would be a bad idea as well as telling them exactly WHY it's a bad idea, I harboured a grudge for the reason but never sabotaged either side in retaliation, this is where it is different with you, it's really not nice to mess up your side's chance just because town decided to lynch you, especially if you are mafia since your teammates are few and could really use any help they can get, not that I mind us depriving mafia of anything we can but when it comes at the hands of one of their own in anger at the town, nah that's just no good. EDIT: I realise what the cop role can do so it isn't very useful to mafia but by possessing it, if it became known one of them gained it they can give a real result on any player they choose to make it seem like they used it looking for a mafia member to gain our trust, a very strictly specific situation but still. That aside if you are town as you say, really this is a step too far of a grudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Tl;dr i think i voted Newt before? uhh, i'm not sure he's mafia, mafia wouldn't be too reckless and try to get owner at the start of the game, its too obvious imo, it could be that Newt is town and did not think about it and hastily tried to become Owner, but there is the tiny chance that he's mafia and tried to get the benefits of being Owner, but as i said: would mafia really be this obvious and reckless, this early in the game? [Unvote] Newt i'll have to think about this more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hi I'm mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Lord Drakyle I think you didn't understand me. I said I wanted revenge on the ones that killed me, and in another post I said that mafia are manipulating the lynchs, so I want revenge on them. About the 500$ bid, I wasn't going to keep it. I just wanted to see everyone's reaction. @Amine Chankey3ft7 Don't try. They won't listen, no matter what. They prefer to waste a lynch on a town than listen to obvious stuff. @Venus I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Amine Chankey3ft7 Actually it's perfectly sensible to think mafia simply bandwagoned on newt after town decided he betrayed them and was acting shifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Amine Chankey3ft7 Actually it's perfectly sensible to think mafia simply bandwagoned on newt after town decided he betrayed them and was acting shifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Well, this will probably be my last post. Don't tell me that I'm being Anti-Town after this. Venus - TownAlistair - Town LykosHand - Town DigitalAmber - Mafia Amine Chankey3ft7 - Town Lord Drakyle - Town NickCrash - Town Meteor Admin Divergent - Mafia Bazaro - MafiaPaul25 - Town This is my opinion. If you guys will use it or not, the decision is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Nani kono kanji Edited January 23, 2018 by Sparkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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