Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dragoknight said: But stallers are for ballers. I can not respect stall. At all. to me, someone playing to have fun and hoping the opponent has fun as well, seeing someone play stall just makes me feel like that person is a dick. I see 0 skill in playing it because literally all you do is sit on 2 or 3 fat mons while the opponent wants to punch you in the face. mons like Toxapex, Chansey, Porygon2 and many more are just so bitchmade that I seriously can't respect it when people put all stall mons they can use on a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted January 22, 2018 Veterans Share Posted January 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said: @Dragoknight @Azeria But why do you hurt Leafeon I don't even dislike Leafeon, just the Eeveelution I care least about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Wolfox said: I can not respect stall. At all. to me, someone playing to have fun and hoping the opponent has fun as well, seeing someone play stall just makes me feel like that person is a dick. I see 0 skill in playing it because literally all you do is sit on 2 or 3 fat mons while the opponent wants to punch you in the face. mons like Toxapex, Chansey, Porygon2 and many more are just so bitchmade that I seriously can't respect it when people put all stall mons they can use on a team. But it's a joke Yeah, to be honest, I don't like stallers either. I usually tend to run hyper offense. I mean the best defense is a good offense amirite? But when I do want a wall for whatever reason, I appreciate one that doubles as a cleric. So Umbreon = good wall Also, please don't compare a beautiful 'mon like Umbreon to the abomination known as Toxapex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 When I use a wall (which is already rare in itself) I generally use either a support mon or one that can hit back one way or another. never have I resulted to stall or anything like it and I never will. The most "stally" thing I've used is flamethrower Clefable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Jolteon: 11 Vaporeon: 15 Umbreon: 14 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 15 you monsters how is jolteon so low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Wolfox said: The most "stally" thing I've used is flamethrower Clefable. That's an offensive Clefable. Not even balanced Seems like bulky offense and hyper offense is generally appraised in this part of the forums. I wonder where Skitty disappeared to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 nah, it's balanced clef for me, offensive means Fire Blast. and guess why those two moves. (I'll give you a hint, it starts with an S and it's red) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It's... Ferrothorn!! Catching Scizor on the switch is probably 90% why Clef has a fire move. You don't really need Fire Blast, unless you're dealing with a defensive Scizor (which won't OHKO you with bullet punch anyway so kill it when it roosts). Fire Blast is best used with Life Orb, which is pretty offensive. Flamethrower can be considered offensive or balanced, depending on the rest of the team and the item. If it holds lefties and has zero SpA investment, it's balanced. If it has life orb or has full SpA investment, it's offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 I don't usually put too much spatk on it, cuz I generally use it to get a few pod hits in and generally just for the Forteresspeople use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Jolteon: 11 Vaporeon: 15 Umbreon: 12 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 16 the power of Pix compels you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seki108 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hurt Umbreon, Heal Sylveon Jolteon: 11 Vaporeon: 15 Umbreon: 10 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRS swag Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 15 Umbreon: 11 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 17 Heal Umbreon, Hurt Jolteon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 15 Umbreon: 11 Espeon: 18 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayia Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 13 Umbreon: 12 Espeon: 18 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 13 Umbreon: 10 Espeon: 18 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 16 2 hours ago, seki108 said: Hurt Umbreon, Heal Sylveon So this time we're allies and not enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seki108 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, walpurgis said: So this time we're allies and not enemies. So it would seem, comrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 13 Umbreon: 8 Espeon: 19 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Dreamy Posted January 23, 2018 Global Mods Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9 Vaporeon: 11 Umbreon: 8 Espeon: 19 Leafeon: 15 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenEric Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 9-2=7 Vaporeon: 11 Umbreon: 8+1=9 Espeon: 19 Leafeon: 15 Glaceon: 15 Sylveon: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojama Yellow Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Wolfox said: I can not respect stall. At all. to me, someone playing to have fun and hoping the opponent has fun as well, seeing someone play stall just makes me feel like that person is a dick. I see 0 skill in playing it because literally all you do is sit on 2 or 3 fat mons while the opponent wants to punch you in the face. mons like Toxapex, Chansey, Porygon2 and many more are just so bitchmade that I seriously can't respect it when people put all stall mons they can use on a team. I dont particularly like the playstyle, but saying stall straight-up requires no skill is just wrong. to build a stall team and use its full potential still requires knowing how to play the game. ive never used full-blown stall teams, though I do have to say that in a lot of my teams pokemon like porygon2 or tangrowth snuck in. especially the former. back on topic. Jolteon: 7 Vaporeon: 12 Umbreon: 9 Espeon: 19 Leafeon: 15 Glaceon: 13 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 That's because Porygon is a Normal type. Tangrowth is a superior Grass type. Allow me to bring balance to the eevees. I reckon too much power will corrupt Espeon. I view it as my personal goal not to permit this. Jolteon: 7 Vaporeon: 12 Umbreon: 9 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 16 Glaceon: 13 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 7 Vaporeon: 12 Umbreon: 7 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 16 Glaceon: 14 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted January 23, 2018 Veterans Share Posted January 23, 2018 Jolteon: 7 Vaporeon: 12 Umbreon: 8 Espeon: 17 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 14 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Time for some rebalancing, I'd say. Jolteon: 7 Vaporeon: 12 Umbreon: 9 Espeon: 15 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 14 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Leave Vaporeon alone, heathens! Jolteon: 5 Vaporeon: 11 (should be +100 tbh) Umbreon: 9 Espeon: 16 Leafeon: 14 Glaceon: 14 Sylveon: 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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