NickCrash Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 You know Newt, your constant pleas for the cultists to assimilate you makes me think you are already their member. Honestly, I wouldn't want them to get a lead in this. The less, the merrier. [Eliminate] Newt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @NickCrash I find your behavior suspicious. You seem to frequently accuse people without much evidence. Convince me you're town, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Well... I doubt Newt is culted. And even if he is, that still doesn't make him a great target. The cultmaster is more interesting to go after than their pawns. I've reviewed the player list, as well as the commonly shared knowledge about all living players and the opinion I have of them. I've come to the conclusion that the cult leader is likely to be among these players: DigitalAmber, Sosobean, Castiel, Paul25, Amine, Anti, and Purple. That's still 7 people. Oof. If I'm forgetting something that makes one of them innocent, please correct me. @Lord Drakyle would you happen to have sustantial information about any of these 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 No, I'm not culted yet. By the way, I forgot I can have a side now. I choose town. Guys, NickCrash is probably mafia. Sorry but his argument of "I chose my targets alphabetically" doesn't make sense, and for me, the only way for him to discover that is being Candy's partner. He is also trying to form an easy bandwagon on me, so [Eliminate] NickCrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @Eviora Yes, I was indeed the one to accuse Roswell out of nowhere. I've been actively searching for scum, providing info about members, pushing where needed, and my justification is always fair. Remember how I was reading the role descriptions to find out which roles are probably mafia/cult/other 3rd party? You probably don't as almost nobody made a comment on that. In fact Anti_hero proposed other not so probable names for the same role. That's suspicious behavior. If you cannot argue about my propositions and the logic behind them (which I always present), then your accusation is null. I've provided more reads and info than you, and you are the 100% confirmed townie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @Newt if it wasn't a possibility, I wouldn't have brought it up. It happened that I was right. My guess was good enough. To be frank, I thought you would do something like that. You're the one trying to create a bw against me right now, with zero evidence. Besides, one vote for each of us is hardly a bw. You are definitely not town, and you continue to ask for the cultist to assimilate you. If you take a step back, that looks like someone who has already accomplished what they need and try to misdirect the town away from them. 2 mafia are already dead, and if there's a cult, it's probable you're in it. I can afford to lynch you when I have no better alternative. It is really interesting you are fast to paint me as mafia, when you are accused of being a cultist. You don't deny it. For the time being, I'll keep my vote on you. If there's a more solid threat, I'll vote them instead. Yesterday we had 2 people on the lynch-list. Newt and I weren't there. Had I been mafia, the easy way would have been to bw on those and no suspicion goes on either one of us. Tbh I don't believe soso is mafia, and I've said so already. So if there's a possible threat for town, I'd rather focus on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @NickCrash I'm not certain I would call that justification fair. There's not really any reason to believe Newt is already cult; if he were, I'd think he wouldn't want to mention it anymore. Now, if you were to instead say that you dislike the fact that he wanted to join the cult, that would be more reasonable. However, the cult has little reason to actually recruit him. They're better off taking someone who may have a useful role to deny it to one of their enemies. And, even if Newt *were* cult, I think there are plenty of better ways to spend our 1-per-day lynch than killing a mere lackey. As for judging reads by quantity, all I can really say is they're only helpful if they're right. However, I agree with you on one matter: Anti is suspicious. I find it exceedingly odd that Candy accepted the offer to reveal herself when she did. It feels like she was trying to protect someone. It's possible that Anti has an important mafia role, and that Candy sacrificed herself to protect him. If so, the actual messenger could be another mafia member. Regardless, what we can say for certain is that I am a proven member of the town and you have yet to prove yourself. Do you have anything to say that might assuage my suspicions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NickCrash Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @Eviora I have given you my answer. I'm sorry if I sounded offensive. As I said, the constant pleas to become cult (in caps to add to that) seemed weird since they have made that request known days ago. What does it add to repeat? As I said above, take a step back and re-evaluate the situation. No need to re-iterate. You're right. Quantity is useless if not backed up by something. That's why I (at least try to) provide my reasoning behind all my posts when I try to read someone. It's a few pages back when we were still discussing about the soso vs anti lynch, where I presented my thoughts about both and how one (soso) is more likely to be town than the other (anti). I don't go for quantity just for the sake of quanitity. I don't understand why you go there. As for reading people, I am still an amateur, but I'm becoming increasingly better. If only more people commented on the thread, I would provide a more accurate read on everyone. If you want to, I'll try to present my thoughts on everyone when I find time to re-read the whole thing (cause right now I'm also reading this https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/183456-medication) On 2/2/2018 at 8:37 PM, Eviora said: Regardless, what we can say for certain is that I am a proven member of the town and you have yet to prove yourself. Expand I have answered to that. I'm trying to help by compiling info from the role descriptions and what people say. I can't get into your head to convince you. You'll have to judge me based on my contributions (or lack of). I've raised my suspicion on Anti_hero before, and now I'm getting a scummy behavioral trait from Newtz. That's all. I thought everyone should know. You are expecting one pattern of behavior if he got culted, I am expecting a different one. As I said before, I was convinced (based on their description) that rDigitalAmber was the cult leader, and it wasn't. I'm keeping my early vote on the "lackey" until I find a more probable threat. If you or anyone else has something more on that, I'll be more than happy to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @NickCrash I'm not part of the cult, and even if I was, you gain nothing by lynching me. Now, for the cultist: I don't know who you are and I know I have little to offer you. But this is a game based on love and friendship, so why not make a good deed for a fellow friend that already lost the game? Mafia is not going to kill me bacause they gain nothing from it, and as you need numbers to win, I'm a solid addition to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Geez, Newt, you sure are making yourself hard to defend. =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @Eviora I'm just doing this because the cult is my last chance to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalAmber Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 To be honest, considering Newtclaims he has not been culted, I’m inclined to believe him. He offers nothing to the cult leader except that he is unlikely to be targeted for lynch or kill. I reviewed the list of confirmed towns/3rd parties and I find Newt is the Cupid, Draykle was likely the old maid(need confirmation from Evi) and Evi is town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Drakyle was the treestump. Eviora replaced him, as she was the mime. I was the one to point that out, since I thought Dive had made a mistake with the role list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Drakyle is now a confirmed town villager as per the rules of my old mimic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 No not the cop : ( also i should mention that with the cop dead, my ability can't be used anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalAmber Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 THanks, I was uncertain how mimic worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 @AlistairNo new information though knowing there was a Spy in the Mafia the assertion Evi made that Anti may have been claiming messenger while using information the spy learned to make it seem like he really was the messenger holds water, would it help if I just revealed all the names and the roles they supposedly have that the talkative message sender told me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 @Lord Drakyle Publicly revealing roles always comes at the cost of potentially giving new and useful information to the remaining mafia and TP, but at some point it's going to be necessary to weed them out anyway. We can't save ourselves if we remain in the dark. So I'd say yeah share what you've got, but I'd like to see what at least a couple other players think of it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 12:43 AM, Alistair said: @Lord Drakyle Publicly revealing roles always comes at the cost of potentially giving new and useful information to the remaining mafia and TP, but at some point it's going to be necessary to weed them out anyway. We can't save ourselves if we remain in the dark. So I'd say yeah share what you've got, but I'd like to see what at least a couple other players think of it first. Expand I just had a wayyyy better idea, Anti_Hero claims to be the messenger, no new emssages have been received, we vote to lynch him, if he is innocent he can send a message and prove it otherwise we can assume the Spy did all the message sending and he is either cult or mafia @NickCrash@Eviora@Anti_Hero@Newt@DigitalAmber@Jace Stormkirk@Amine Chankey3ft7@purplecicada [Eliminate] Anti_Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 [ELMINATE] ANTI HERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul25 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Oh No, The Mafs finally hunted the cop. o: R.i.p :/ Additionally, We are responsible for consecutive 2 townie deaths :sadpepe: r.i.p What do we do 2day, follow the bw or hunt a better worthy target with placing interpreted arguments? Scumhunting or TP hunting are the two choices we ought to be doing 2day to accomplish our valentines' day programme. Needless to say that I don't see a worth lynching target for now. Let's keep an eye on all the players and decide who to lynch for 2day instead of blindly joining the bw or role revelations If necessary. To tell the truth, I don't see anyone suspicious for the time being. Might think with valid arguments to detect a suspicious player subsequently. It's better not to rely on assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 5:11 AM, Paul25 said: Oh No, The Mafs finally hunted the cop. o: R.i.p :/ Additionally, We are responsible for consecutive 2 townie deaths :sadpepe: r.i.p What do we do 2day, follow the bw or hunt a better worthy target with placing interpreted arguments? Scumhunting or TP hunting are the two choices we ought to be doing 2day to accomplish our valentines' day programme. Needless to say that I don't see a worth lynching target for now. Let's keep an eye on all the players and decide who to lynch for 2day instead of blindly joining the bw or role revelations If necessary. To tell the truth, I don't see anyone suspicious for the time being. Might think with valid arguments to detect a suspicious player subsequently. It's better not to rely on assumptions. Expand Unless you are intentionally ignoring what was pointed out or didn't read through the recent posts, there is a very good reason to vote Anti_Hero, Candy was revealed to be the spy, she was able to send messages, Anti_Hero claimed to be a messenger able to send messages before Candy was discovered as Spy, people are wondering if Candy was protecting someone by revealing her mafia status by getting married but either way if Anti_Hero is telling the truth he can send a message because so far no new messages, if he isn't the messenger it is easily scumread-able that he would lie about his role and had knowledge of Candy's role as Dive (which the message sender knew) which means only way to know that would be if he was Mafia too or told by Candy either way this lynch vote is a test, if he can't send a message he will be lynched and we find out what he was trying to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul25 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 5:17 AM, Lord Drakyle said: Unless you are intentionally ignoring what was pointed out or didn't read through the recent posts, there is a very good reason to vote Anti_Hero, Candy was revealed to be the spy, she was able to send messages, Anti_Hero claimed to be a messenger able to send messages before Candy was discovered as Spy, people are wondering if Candy was protecting someone by revealing her mafia status by getting married but either way if Anti_Hero is telling the truth he can send a message because so far no new messages, if he isn't the messenger it is easily scumread-able that he would lie about his role and had knowledge of Candy's role as Dive (which the message sender knew) which means only way to know that would be if he was Mafia too or told by Candy either way this lynch vote is a test, if he can't send a message he will be lynched and we find out what he was trying to hide. Expand Quoting works o: Thanks to whoever made this thing working again. Possibly Ali or Ame herself. Oh yeah, should have read that thoroughly. Ty for giving me an opportunity to clarify myself Got it and I know what should I be doing rn [Eliminate] Anti_Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Cops are for people who don't know how to scumhunt :triumph: Newt would be scummy if he weren't so desperately clinging for cult to nab him. He's been otherwise Newtly consistent this whole game, and every piece of evidence points to his being what he claimed. Since it doesn't look like he's helping anyone, and just for his own wincon, it's probably best to ignore him for now, he's harmless. I'm not a big fan of the Anti lynch just because it looks like a bandwagon to me. At least wait for the guy to respond before you smother him... Otherwise I don't think there's too much going on so far today? I'll look back at stuff in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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