Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Anyhow, we are going to be hypoclaiming and laying down seer cover. Basicly, I have strong reason to believe that a cop exist. This is for Three reasons. I'll out two of them right now which is the fact that ywall really like putting cops in your games for some reason. The second is I kinda expect my flavor to be a cop based on how Dive described it. SO WITH THAT SAID We are going to protect our cop. At SOME point during the day, I expect E V E R Y B O D Y and their mothers to say something along the lines of "My Night 0 Investigation result was on PERSON and the result was ALIGNMENT." If you say you had a town result on a person, you can't scumread them or anything of that nature for the day phase atleast, because you're trying to keep up the impression that you ARE the cop. If you you had a scum result on a person, then you should probably be pushing them. Keep in mind if you claim a scum result on a person, your cover is probably blown. Why are we doing this? If EVERYONE is playing their part and helping lay down seer cover, the cop will be about to safely drop their peeks without outing themselves. Now, lets say you are the cop and you're trying to think of how you're going to lay down cover safely. The best advice I can give you for this is to disguise your peek as a naturally formed read. And lastly REMEMBER TO BE CLEAR Using phrases like “if I’m the seer I peeked playerX Town n0” or simply “I peeked player Town last night” leave no doubt. If you bury your peeks in long reads lists or rambling posts, there’s always a danger they will not be seen. I'm re-quoting this because this is something we should be discussing if we plan on doing it. I should probably use this as a reminder to not pre-emptively out your role for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Process of elimination, most likely. They know who's scum and who isn't, so they can identify people who can potentially be cop by those who are accurate (unless the Cop gets meta and intentionally makes an incorrect reveal, but then that makes them look scum if people do end up lynching that guy, which the mafia could try and bounce off of by starting a lynch). Plus, trying to hide the cop only makes them completely ineffective. If everyone's trying to be the cop, no-one in the village knows who the real cop is, and thus we can't make any lynches based on them. Everyone claiming cop still helps mafia more than it does the village. I get the potential reasoning behind it, I just don't think the idea gives us enough compared to what it gives the mafia to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Yep, that's another thing we're forcing scum to do. We're force scum to A. Try to attract as MANY N0 town results as possible and B. Aggressively cop hunt by looking at people's N0's, and see if they are on scum or not. If they are on scum they know that they're not a cop. If they're NOT on scum, and scum think they are a cop, they will shoot that person. If that person does not flip cop, AND we can indentiy that their n0 was why they were killed, their n0 is effectively lock clear. Hiding the cop doesn't make them ineffective. If anything, it makes them MORE effective since they are able to drop their peeks safely. Assuming no one fakeclaims cop, if the real cop desperately needs to claim, they can claim. It's not our job as town to hunt PRs. Its our job to indentify and lynch scum. The site meta here is effectively we're all PRs because ywall don't like vanilla games and ywall have Night 0s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparkin' Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 gdi that's too big to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 *throws blueshell at @Alisae* So, I just wanted to say to you to not expect anything from me. I'm not going to help anyone in this game. I'm not going to join bandwagons, I'm not going to give my reads and I'm not going to help the mafia. At the end of the day, I'm just going to cast a random vote, so just pretend that I do not exist. Also, my role is not helpful in any way, and I do not need to survive to achieve my win condition. So feel free to lynch/kill me if you guys wanna waste it. I'm not going to say anything else, so don't even try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul25 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Well, so last day Hooligan's heart was broken by someone and contrary to this, Lykos fell in love with someone and his third party role win condition couldn't be met anymore, oof At least a third party is down and so a Town. Too bad, that none of them can no longer assist us in making our valentines' day plan in any way. :Sadpepe: Additionally, Hypoclaiming is what I see which is being talked by Ali 2 since the beginning of this phase. To protect the cop, each and every one of us may hypoclaim to deviate the scums but I don't like that notion a lot. However, might as well join in that affair when needed. Since, It's purely luck based and as y'all know how unlucky one can be with that, it's better to refrain from using that trick imo. Purposeful roles have equal and possible chances to get a heart break and vice versa. The same applies for others. Let's keep an eye on every player (including me) for now so that we can later suspect them. Edited January 27, 2018 by Paul25 Last sentence correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti_Hero Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 There are chocolates, since we don't know the effects I would prefer to give it to someone like Drakyle, he can't die and is town Give Friendship Chocolate: Drakyle We don't have much info either, since Drakyle is town I would like to follow his lead. Hypoclaiming is a good idea. If everyone does it then when that person dies we just have to look it up what that person said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Lykos dieing is kinda good for us considering we won't have to worry about a 6 man scum team. Also Paul just call me Alle or Sae lol @Newt can you clearify a bit more what you mean by that your role isn't helpful in anyway? I kinda don't want you to shy away from us and lurk because you got a role you didn't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I refuse your chocolate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Alisae no, it's not that I did not like my role. I'll just say this: I'm Third Party (no, I'm not the cultist) And I forgot about the chocolates, so [Eliminate] Amine Give Friendship Chocolate: Alisae This is my last post of the day. See you guys in the next day phase. Btw cultist, feel free to cult me cuz my win condition is hard af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Alisae There is a cop. I won't state how I know this; however, I am not the cop but one does exist this game. My action happens in the day, rather than the night and my action is best used when the day phase is nearing the end as I need to think carefully about my decision. Also this claiming thing Alle is asking to do is too confusing/much for me to really follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Newt Can you tell us what your win condition is? @Quinn You shouldn't have out that you aren't the cop unless its for WIFOM purposes mostly because now scum will think you aren't a cop and if they are cop hunting, they will probably avoid shooting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Alisae Maybe that's the way I want it to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul25 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Added to this, Newt your opinions are warmly welcomed here and it can be helpful for us. I do believe, that you can assist us to destroy the heartbreakers' faction and If you are just turning away from the game, it will eventually be a bad outcome for us towns. Always remember, that every role has its own purpose and is not necessarily a useless role. Therefore, I request you to forget about that game's incident and continue with us just like b4 that incident has evoked. Don't be disappointed Newt, that was just because we misunderstood you and we won't let that happen again. Nvm alle, I won't use that anymore. Happy now lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Quinn litterally the whole purpose of what I said boiled down to tl;dr we need to protect the cop here is how if there is someone you townread hard say "if I were a cop, this person was my night 0 investigation with a town result" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sigh... This is not because of what happened in other games, this is just strategy. And no @Alisae, I won't say my win condition, but I'll give you a hint. It's somewhere in the op of D1. Now this is my last post of the day, GOODBYE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Newt I am trying to figure out if there is a pro-town motive to keeping you alive and if you can townside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Well you see, me not dying might help the town more than you think but even saying such can put a target on my back. Then again, it's a miracle I can bring myself to discuss/play a mafia game right now with my current personal situation so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not a big fan of your strategy just because it seems like not everyone will follow it first off, and that it can just become a huge confusion/mess secondly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 It seems I cannot stop speaking even when I want to. @Alisae I'm the culpid. I don't know if my targets are town/mafia/third party, and thats why I won't take any sides in this game. And ofc I won't say which ones I targeted. Now leave me alone >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalAmber Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 So it seems Newt is Third Party. Considering his win condition, we can kill him later if we have to kill him. I’m still alive and not silenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Newt I mean I guess that lines up with what I have. I don't expect you to out your targets. If you want to talk about the game, you can hide your targets easily, but if you don't, I guess that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 lol no Newt doesn't have to be alive to obtain his wincon. @Newt You should have just played like you were town until you got caught honestly, but I mean if you want to out yourself that works too I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti_Hero Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Newts ability is making people love eachother right? Of they share an alignment This could be useful. If you out your targets and result we can eliminate our targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Anti_Hero No. Once per game, I choose two people to fall in love with each other. If they survive until the end of the game, I win. I don't know their alignment or roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisae Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @Newt can you self-target yourself as one of the targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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