Reborn characters Hurt/Heal (post E17)

[Jess]

E17 is out, 2018 is in, aka we need new rankings!

We also need new reasons to argue, I'm sick of getting salty about Garchomp in Pseudo H&H on the daily.

 

Rules:

-Once a day you can hurt one Reborn character by 2 points 

-Once a day you can heal one Reborn character by 1 point.

-MC doesn't participate cuz we're da best anyways

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 20

Victoria: 20

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 20

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 20

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 20

Terra: 20

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 20

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 20

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Orderly John: 260000 wut who put that here

[Jess]

God, this is gonna be looooong....

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 20

Victoria: 20

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 20

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 20

Terra: 18

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 20

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 20

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

[Walpurgis]

Cain: 20

Fern: 20

Victoria: 20

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 20

Terra: 18

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 20

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

[Wolfox]

Cain: 20

Fern: 18

Victoria: 20

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 20

Terra: 18

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

 

Fire beats Grass. Fern is Ass. Cal Kicks Ass. Simple math

[Jess]

1 minute ago, Wolfox said:

Fire beats Grass. Fern is Ass. Cal Kicks Ass. Simple math

I like your way of thinking. Plus, seeing Cal getting redeemed (using a Medicham) and the effect he had on Shelly, turning her from a timid scared girl into a determined woman is freaking awesome. Character development at its finest!

[Wolfox]

3 minutes ago, Jess said:

I like your way of thinking. Plus, seeing Cal getting redeemed (using a Medicham) and the effect he had on Shelly, turning her from a timid scared girl into a determined woman is freaking awesome. Character development at its finest!

Cal, in general, is awesome. "But he killed Kiki's medicham". He actually didn't. He only made Magmortar catch it. Solaris gave the order to "Dispose of it". Cal most likely send it out to not arouse suspicion or to save the Medicham from jumping straight into a broken machine.

let that sink in for a bit

 

And just to finish it off, his team in ep 16 was AWESOME. 5 fire starters and Magmortar. As much as they can be disliked, you can not deny that he had power

[Jess]

6 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

Cal, in general, is awesome. "But he killed Kiki's medicham". He actually didn't. He only made Magmortar catch it. Solaris gave the order to "Dispose of it". Cal most likely send it out to not arouse suspicion or to save the Medicham from jumping straight into a broken machine.

let that sink in for a bit

Apart from the pun, which was amazing even if you've used it before I had never thought of that. Cal never orders Magmortar to toss Medicham in lava. So, it can be assumed that Magmortar obeyed to Solaris, possibly out of fear of his true power (it undoubtedly is superior to any other person on Pyrous top at that time).

[Wolfox]

yeah, sorry about using "Let that sink in" again. I just laugh a bit too much everytime I can use it.

And picture yourself in Magmortar's shoes. You see a maniac with a GARCHOMP order you to toss a Medicham away. That Garchomp can kill you 3 ways to next Friday. If I was in his shoes I would probably also toss it, as much as I would regret it later

[Dragoknight]

38 minutes ago, Jess said:

God, this is gonna be looooong....

It will last 'till the end of time!

...or at least until E18 comes out.

 

Also, you forgot 4 that I feel should make the list (considering Sirius is on). I'll add them if that's cool.

Now with Ame, Lin, Simon & Tara, and Aster & Eclipse

 

-2 Victoria +1 Shelly

Ame: 20

Cain: 20

Fern: 18

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 21

Terra: 18

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 20

Simon & Tara: 20

Aster & Eclipse: 20

 

38 minutes ago, Jess said:

I like your way of thinking. Plus, seeing Cal getting redeemed (using a Medicham) and the effect he had on Shelly, turning her from a timid scared girl into a determined woman is freaking awesome. Character development at its finest!

Which is why Cal is awesome. And Shelly. 

 

38 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

Cal, in general, is awesome. "But he killed Kiki's medicham". He actually didn't. He only made Magmortar catch it. Solaris gave the order to "Dispose of it". Cal most likely send it out to not arouse suspicion or to save the Medicham from jumping straight into a broken machine.

let that sink in for a bit

Hmm... never thought of it that way. Even more reason why Cal is one of the best characters.

And nice sink pun.

[Jess]

14 minutes ago, Dragoknight said:

Also, you forgot 4 that I feel should make the list (considering Sirius is on). I'll add them if that's cool.

Now with Ame, Lin, Simon & Tara, and Aster & Eclipse

Oh, I took the characters from here 

http://www.rebornevo.com/index.php?/pr/characters/

 

Yes, Lin should be in. Ame practically isn't a huge plot element, plus, we all know the real Ame, so I'll take her out too. It wouldn't be an objective voting with Ame in.. The others though, I doubt it... Not major plot characters... So, list (and standings) is:

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 18

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 21

Terra: 18

Titania: 20

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 20

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 20

[Dragoknight]

1 hour ago, Hooligan said:

And I add one point for Shelly, because she is my favorite Reborn character. She is my biggest challenge in my Steel mono run. Promethium was basically Shelly's girlfriend, because they've battled many times until Promethium gets a Empoleon that she didn't have at that moment. Her Bug-types are vastly superior, even more than Steel-types, even if she had Pokemon in the lower tiers. But her gym got the best AI and I found Shelly the most interesting character, so she is my favorite.

Yeah, I find Shelly's whole character arc just adorable. Definitely best character material. And I did have the most trouble fighting Shelly. Where as I feel like all the other gym leaders just use the field effects to their advantage (which, once you break, the battle becomes exponentially easier), I feel like her team was the most balanced and was rather difficult, no matter what strategy you try. She just has so much coverage compared to what you have available at that point in the game.

I still have flashback from the first (50) times I battled her. Just when I thought I could take out her team with my Unfezant, suprise! Crit Ancient Power from Yanmega. I am still salty to this day.

[Zarc]

My queen.

 

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 18

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 20

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 18

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

 

[Gheist]

Oh great, we're doing this again. . .Time to start the saltiness, flame wars and taking the game way too seriously.

On another note, I think leaving Ame out is a good idea since we'd kinda feel awkward hurting her and she's dead in game anyway. RIP

 

Welp here I go: +1 Luna, -2 Bennett

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 18

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 20

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

[SilverAngelus]

Cain: 20

Fern: 16

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 18

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 21

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

 

Heal Amaria +1, hurt Fern -2

[Azeria]

Cain: 20

Fern: 16

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

 

God I hate Radomus.

[Hycrox]

Cain: 20

Fern: 16

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 21

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 16

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr. Sigmund: 20

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

[GenEric]

Cain: 20

Fern: 16

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 20+1=21

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 20

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr.Sigmund: 20-2=18

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

 

 

i cant believe u ppl forgot about how much of an ass dr butt is

[Wolfox]

6 hours ago, Hooligan said:

Well... I've beaten her in the first try in my Steel mono run, which confirms the theory that my Steel-type Pokemon are vastly superior.

 

hate to be the bubble burster, but beating Steel with Steel isn't always that hard. because while yes, they resist you. you resist them.

[HellBoyOnEarth]

Cain: 20

Fern: 14

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 21

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 21

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr.Sigmund: 18

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 20

Solaris: 20

Lin: 21

 

Shade is cool, didn't say much, has a strong team, HE IS A FUCKING CREEPY GHOST *-*

Fern the pest must die!!!!

[....]

Cain: 20

Fern: 14

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 21

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 21

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 20

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr.Sigmund: 18

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 18

Solaris: 20

Lin: 22

 

Let's go my Femme Fatale!

 

Sirius is unbeliably generic, yaaaawn~

 

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by Thundermaze

[Zarc]

@Thundermaze O.O

 

 

edit : care , make sure to put Fern on white text , cause we can think that you hurted 2 peoples

[Wolfox]

I'm actually gonna play a bit of Devils Advocate before it's even really needed. I will argue that Victoria isn't a bad character. Is she a good one? Arguably. Is she better than Fern? Yes.

Now, the reason that I say Victoria is not a bad character is because of why she does the things to "hamper your progress". The second time you battle her (right before the Slums), she attempted to go in there but instantly got attacked. She wants to see if you are perhaps strong enough to go through and if not protect you from going through. The third time (unless I'm not counting right) is right before you enter Shelly's gym. She wants to stop you from battling Shelly right then and there because while Shelly is willing to do her job as Gym Leader, she's nowhere near a good place mentally yet. She wishes to protect Shelly for a little longer till it's eased up a little. And the last time she does this is before you fight Kiki. Arguably the best or worst time you battle her, she wants to stop you from fighting Kiki because she's afraid of losing her. Kiki being on her deathbed put Victoria on edge and she wants to try and prolong her life as long as possible. And she believes that a battle with you might be too intense for Kiki (which to her credit, she was right on the money there. Kiki didn't faint for no reason). She wishes to stop you so Kiki can live even a little longer.

 

Again, not going to say Victoria is instantly a good character. But looking at the reasons she does the things she does, you can see that she's much more than just a hurdle you gotta jump over. And that's my first controversy on this one. enjoy!

[NickCrash]

Cain: 20

Fern: 14

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 21

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 21

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 18

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr.Sigmund: 18

Taka: 22

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 18

Solaris: 21

Lin: 22

 

Solaris actually has a plan for Reborn.

DJ has no place to live. The Ace Members are no more.

[CrimsonDragon21]

This Hurt and Heal will take like forever. But i like the Idea

Let's go Taka and fuck Fern.

 

Cain: 20

Fern: 12

Victoria: 18

Adrienn: 20

Amaria: 21

Aya: 20

Charlotte: 21

Ciel: 20

Corey: 20

Florinia: 21

Hardy: 20

Julia: 20

Kiki: 20

Luna: 21

Noel: 20

Radomus: 16

Samson: 20

Saphira: 20

Serra: 20

Shade: 21

Shelly: 22

Terra: 18

Titania: 18

Anna: 20

DJ Arclight: 18

Bennett: 16

Blake: 20

Cal: 21

El: 20

Heather: 20

Laura: 20

Dr.Sigmund: 18

Taka: 23

ZEL: 20

Sirius: 18

Solaris: 21

Lin: 22

[GenEric]

yall be hating on fern but forgot about bennett, dr butt and arceus guy