Jess Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Another case of a needless Mega... Gengar. Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 26 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 19 Mega Scizor: 22 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 22 Mega Tyranitar: 9 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 8 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the red guy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 26 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 22 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 22 Mega Tyranitar: 9 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 6 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellBoyOnEarth Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 26 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 22 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 22 Mega Tyranitar: 9 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 26 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 22 Mega Tyranitar: 7 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 if we're talking needless mega's, mind helping me take down the pseudo first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 1, 2018 Veterans Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 19 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 26 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 22 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Sure, even if Tyranitar is hella fucking awesome, it's mega wasn't really needed, especially considering just how consistently amazing Tyranitar's been in the near 20 years it's been around. This thing owned OU for three whole generations with among the worst defensive typings in the game. That deserves props ngl. Not taking that on Gengar's end though, that boy deserved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonDragon21 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 19 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Azeria said: Sure, even if Tyranitar is hella fucking awesome, it's mega wasn't really needed, especially considering just how consistently amazing Tyranitar's been in the near 20 years it's been around. This thing owned OU for three whole generations with among the worst defensive typings in the game. That deserves props ngl. Not taking that on Gengar's end though, that boy deserved it. Kinda hypocritical, don't ya think? Gengar's been in OU for the first 6 Gens. It's mega is completely broken, there is no need whatsoever to buff an already more than capable 'mon. There are much more deserving 'mon of a mega. Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Gengar got nerfed hard in gen7. Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 24 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 10 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 25 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 1, 2018 Veterans Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Dragoknight said: Kinda hypocritical, don't ya think? Gengar's been in OU for the first 6 Gens. It's mega is completely broken, there is no need whatsoever to buff an already more than capable 'mon. There are much more deserving 'mon of a mega. Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 12 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 If you call one of the most popular Pokemon -period- not deserving of a mega, that's pretty dumb to me. Difference in opinions I consider Tyranitar's Mega to be unnecessary because it's the exact same thing, with an added 100 base stats and no real new spin to what it does. The extra 100 base stats feel wasted because there's nothing new to be seen, nor a truly improved Pokemon, just a wasted slot that could've been given to something that would actually improve from it a lot like Crobat or Donphan. Heck it's design isn't even better either. Now Mega Gengar; Gengar's always been about using it's speed and utility in combination with it's stunning coverage and power. Mega Gengar accentuates this in spades with improved speed and slightly better bulk, but now with Shadow Tag; essentially guaranteeing it gets to do it's job. Want to annoy something with Taunt or Disable? Can't run from him. Want to guarantee a revenge kill? He's the man. Want to watch something just suffer for three turns before dying? Booyah. It plays to all aspects of Gengar, improves them while adding a twist and is absolutely thematically fitting, what with Gengar stalking other's shadows and it's Mega literally looking like it's half in and half out of the shadows. There's a stark difference between these two; Mega Tyranitar isn't especially notable and genuinely feels unnecessary whereas Mega Gengar is overpowered but absolutely deserved. Besides if you had to remove Gengar's Mega, I'd say you'd have to remove Alakazam's too, seeing as they're essentially counterparts. There's probably a lot of bias here, Ghost's my favourite type and Gengar's like arguably my favourite Ghost type. 2 hours ago, NickCrash said: Gengar got nerfed hard in gen7. Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 24 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 10 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Less so the loss of Levitate, more so the sheer power creep and it finally being unable to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 20 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 4 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the red guy Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 2 Mega Absol: 10 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 26 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 2 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellBoyOnEarth Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 23 Mega Heracross: 27 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 5 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 0 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 27 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 23 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Banette: 0 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonDragon21 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 22 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 27 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoknight Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 22 Mega Aerodactyl: 23 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 9 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 22 Mega Aerodactyl: 24 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 7 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 25 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 18 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 22 Mega Aerodactyl: 24 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 7 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 16 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 23 Mega Aerodactyl: 24 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 7 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Edit: I struggled not to enter the heated debate about whether Gengar or not "deserved" a Mega. For me, it didn't. It was strong enough already. Shadow Tag Mega Gengar is just fucking broken. As was Levitate on Gengar. Good thing they removed it. That's my opinion and it won't change regardless of any arguments that support the opposite (and to avoid myself getting uppity and fighting in a H&H again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mega Gengar: 16 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 23 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 21 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 3 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the red guy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Mega Gengar: 16 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 23 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 22 Mega Scizor: 24 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 1 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Mega Gengar: 16 Mega Kangaskhan: 16 Mega Pinsir: 23 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 22 Mega Scizor: 25 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Tyranitar: 0 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 3, 2018 Veterans Share Posted March 3, 2018 Mega Gengar: 17 Mega Kangaskhan: 14 Mega Pinsir: 23 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 22 Mega Scizor: 25 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 ...Levitate on an incredibly frail Pokemon that would faint from just about every Super Effective coverage move or even neutral moves is broken? OK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Azeria said: ...Levitate on an incredibly frail Pokemon that would faint from just about every Super Effective coverage move or even neutral moves is broken? OK... Let's give Levitate to everything that is fragile and has legs then.... Mega Gengar: 15 Mega Kangaskhan: 14 Mega Pinsir: 24 Mega Aerodactyl: 22 Mega Ampharos: 22 Mega Scizor: 25 Mega Heracross: 25 Mega Houndoom: 23 Mega Mawile: 8 Mega Aggron: 24 Mega Manectric: 26 Mega Absol: 8 Mega Abomasnow: 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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