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Really? But he only has one damage ability and he gets blown up almost instantly by literally anything

He's got plenty of utility, but there's mids like Lulu and Orianna who have plenty of utility as well and don't get instagibbed by the world

And even if he is viable as midlaner, he's still perfectly good as a support

Excuse me but i am a zilean mid main :D no but its really fun if you can hit your q.

and i just named the ones that aren't good at all at support cuz it would be good if he started getting good at the good champs(like alistar) instead of the unreliable champs that u dont usually have fun playing.

Out of the supports tacos pointed out i suggest annie, janna, and soraka. All of them besides maybe janna are very easy and can be very good.

and all the adcs that taco pointed out are top tier atm

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Excuse me but i am a zilean mid main :D no but its really fun if you can hit your q.

and i just named the ones that aren't good at all at support cuz it would be good if he started getting good at the good champs(like alistar) instead of the unreliable champs that u dont usually have fun playing.

Out of the supports tacos pointed out i suggest annie, janna, and soraka. All of them besides maybe janna are very easy and can be very good.

and all the adcs that taco pointed out are top tier atm

meh Zilean mid is kinda fun, if you can hit q

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Nunu works as a support and actually was where I started using him. Punch minions without killing them to stack his passive, then throw snowballs or buff your teammate, eat a minion when Relic Shield passive is up for massive sustain. I do recommend taking him into the jungle though as he's better there.

As for cheap and effective ADCs, I recommend Tristana or Corki (both Yordles, same race as Teemo), or for more difficult ones, Twitch and Draven.

Easy support would be someone like Sona (Attack with Q by getting close, heal your teammate when needed, know when to use your ult) or if you want a more skillshot and straightforward champ, Blitzcrank. Blitz is like Thresh in that he's got a pretty defined role: Grab, knock up, possibly ult, and exhaust so your ADC can do damage to them, but he lacks the versatility Thresh has.

Blitz does well with some mobility and tank items (I tend to go Face of the Mountain, Sightstone, Mobility Boots, Righteous Glory, Mikael's Crucible or Locket of the Iron Solari, and possibly Iceborn Gauntlet if we're ahead)

I like doing full AP Sona, (Frost Queen's Claim, Sightstone, Either Mobility or CDR boots Only support items there, then situational AP items like Abyssal Scepter, Athene's Grail, possibly Void Staff/Luden's/Rabadon's) but not many people agree that it's smart, even though it's fun and works.

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Nunu works as a support and actually was where I started using him. Punch minions without killing them to stack his passive, then throw snowballs or buff your teammate, eat a minion when Relic Shield passive is up for massive sustain. I do recommend taking him into the jungle though as he's better there.

As for cheap and effective ADCs, I recommend Tristana or Corki (both Yordles, same race as Teemo), or for more difficult ones, Twitch and Draven.

Easy support would be someone like Sona (Attack with Q by getting close, heal your teammate when needed, know when to use your ult) or if you want a more skillshot and straightforward champ, Blitzcrank. Blitz is like Thresh in that he's got a pretty defined role: Grab, knock up, possibly ult, and exhaust so your ADC can do damage to them, but he lacks the versatility Thresh has.

Blitz does well with some mobility and tank items (I tend to go Face of the Mountain, Sightstone, Mobility Boots, Righteous Glory, Mikael's Crucible or Locket of the Iron Solari, and possibly Iceborn Gauntlet if we're ahead)

I like doing full AP Sona, (Frost Queen's Claim, Sightstone, Either Mobility or CDR boots Only support items there, then situational AP items like Abyssal Scepter, Athene's Grail, possibly Void Staff/Luden's/Rabadon's) but not many people agree that it's smart, even though it's fun and works.

Let's just say, Neo flips shit at his Sona build. Cheap effective ADC's, Sivir, Trist, and Ashe. Corki isn't that cheap, difficulty wise, Draven, Kalista, Twitch all pretty difficult.

Most supports that can melee go FotM, sightstone on all supports, locket same, frozen heart is a good item, right now talismen is better than Rightous Glory, so it is debateable whether or not you want to build it.

Sona, sightstone, Frost Queens, mobi boots, then locket, frozen heart, zeke's harbinger, then a situational last item. Zeke's is very good right now so I suggest getting that item pretty quickly

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Let's just say, Neo flips shit at his Sona build. Cheap effective ADC's, Sivir, Trist, and Ashe. Corki isn't that cheap, difficulty wise, Draven, Kalista, Twitch all pretty difficult.

Most supports that can melee go FotM, sightstone on all supports, locket same, frozen heart is a good item, right now talismen is better than Rightous Glory, so it is debateable whether or not you want to build it.

Sona, sightstone, Frost Queens, mobi boots, then locket, frozen heart, zeke's harbinger, then a situational last item. Zeke's is very good right now so I suggest getting that item pretty quickly

Wasn't Corki only 1350? Or am I mistaken? Bought him a long time ago, so don't remember.

I prefer FotM for the active to be honest. Provide a lot of peel and power to teammates as Blitz. And the passive is nice too if a minion wave is pushing and someone is heading to clear it.

AP Sona may not be a good idea, but damn is it fun.

Just remembered: It's old, but still working, so you can still get a free Tristana skin (and the champ herself) by liking the League Facebook page.

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Wasn't Corki only 1350? Or am I mistaken? Bought him a long time ago, so don't remember.

I prefer FotM for the active to be honest. Provide a lot of peel and power to teammates as Blitz. And the passive is nice too if a minion wave is pushing and someone is heading to clear it.

AP Sona may not be a good idea, but damn is it fun.

Just remembered: It's old, but still working, so you can still get a free Tristana skin (and the champ herself) by liking the League Facebook page.

Corki to my knowledge is a 3150. You can also get a free Garen skin with Twitter, and a free Alistar skin by subscribing to youtube

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Anyone knows a good+easy to learn adc that can fit both offensive and defensive side ? I really don't want to only stick with support/filler for ranked games. If it's possible, i want to know at least 2 champs that fit the description.

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Anyone knows a good+easy to learn adc that can fit both offensive and defensive side ? I really don't want to only stick with support/filler for ranked games. If it's possible, i want to know at least 2 champs that fit the description.

Graves (for his AoE blind and passive) or Ashe (for great kiting/slowing, her stun, and E).

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Anyone knows a good+easy to learn adc that can fit both offensive and defensive side ? I really don't want to only stick with support/filler for ranked games. If it's possible, i want to know at least 2 champs that fit the description.

Sivir is a really good option. Early game she can provide a lot of pressure through her strong pushing power, and she has relative safety with her spell shield and ultimate, which can also be used late game as a great engage and escape tool. The Graves and Ashe recommendations are also great too.

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Anyone knows a good+easy to learn adc that can fit both offensive and defensive side ? I really don't want to only stick with support/filler for ranked games. If it's possible, i want to know at least 2 champs that fit the description.

Do you mean defensive in the case that they have escapes or are safe? Because none of them are technically defensive in my opinion.

Among your safer ADCs are Corki, Ezreal, Tristana, and Sivir.

ADC's with more defensive qualities are Ashe (her slows, stun with ult, E for vision, etc.) and Graves (W gets rid of enemy vision, passive for defensive stats, E for a gap closer/escape, not to mention tons of burst damage to fit that offensive side).

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Anyone knows a good+easy to learn adc that can fit both offensive and defensive side ? I really don't want to only stick with support/filler for ranked games. If it's possible, i want to know at least 2 champs that fit the description.

i'm gonna say someone nobody else has said which kinda surprises me

Caitlin. If your lane goes well, you'll poke the enemy laner down to the point where you have kill pressure if they get caught by CC (like a trap, for example) but they have next to no kill pressure on you because of how low they are.

If your lane goes poorly, your range lets you farm safely along with your traps to protect yourself and your net as an escape and slow.

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Well, I was gonna say Ashe and Sivir

When I read defensive I thought "stuff that's still useful from behind" which makes me think utility... But then everyone else already said stuff so now I just echoing things

EDIT: Holy crap idea

Not a very good one, but could be fun. Cho with a RoA/Wit's End/Titanic core. Could actually be semi-viable if Titanic activates on-hit effects

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Well, I was gonna say Ashe and Sivir

When I read defensive I thought "stuff that's still useful from behind" which makes me think utility... But then everyone else already said stuff so now I just echoing things

EDIT: Holy crap idea

Not a very good one, but could be fun. Cho with a RoA/Wit's End/Titanic core. Could actually be semi-viable if Titanic activates on-hit effects

Yeah, sounds pretty stupidly fun, but add a stinger and it would be more fun

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