Shamitako Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 So I'm nearing enough IP to buy Kennen and was contemplating builds... Anyone have suggestions for an AP+AS build... possibly with Shiv because lightning owo Or maybe just want to shoot down that idea as even viable (though I'd kinda rather you not totally shoot down anything outside Shiv, which was mostly a joke anyways ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 So I'm nearing enough IP to buy Kennen and was contemplating builds... Anyone have suggestions for an AP+AS build... possibly with Shiv because lightning owo Or maybe just want to shoot down that idea as even viable (though I'd kinda rather you not totally shoot down anything outside Shiv, which was mostly a joke anyways ) If you're gonna build AP/AS instead of a more pure AP build then prepare to run Nashor's Tooth; provides everything Kennen could want, that being AP, AS, AP on autoattacks for bonus damage with W passive and some CDR too. Lich Bane is also highly recommended, but'll take some good timing if you want to combine it with your W passive. That's about all I'd suggest for it though, since Kenny loves his normal AP classics such as Deathcap aswell and it's best if you run those alongside with them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted December 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 15, 2014 While Nashoor's Tooth wouldn't be terrible, I don't think it's optimal compared to a utility-AP build. Look for items that both contribute to Kennen's survivability and give him AP, because his ult, E and to a point W necessitate that he be in the fray. Zhonya's, WotA, Rylai's are all good options here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 While Nashoor's Tooth wouldn't be terrible, I don't think it's optimal compared to a utility-AP build. Look for items that both contribute to Kennen's survivability and give him AP, because his ult, E and to a point W necessitate that he be in the fray. Zhonya's, WotA, Rylai's are all good options here. Never really played Kennen but I would think that Abyssal could be an easy addition to that as well due to its magic resist as well as magic resists reducing aura which would be useful if you jump into the center of a team fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I actually know how to build him AP, I just thought an AS/AP build might be fun to try, if not nearly as strong as a pure AP build. Zhonya's is a must on any build of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 An AP - attack speed build would most likely include either Nashor's Tooth or Lich Bane or maybe even both. You also have the option to build him as an AD carry, which isn't entirely unheard of. Although you'll lose a lot of your spell burst, having an unexpected source of DPS on your team is always nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted December 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 15, 2014 Abyssal is fine. I see. If this is just for fun, then nevermind. Go nuts. Although I still stand by the fact that ADC Kennen is only for people who hate themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 AP Kennen usually looks something like: Zhonya's, MPen boots, Deathcap, Rylai's for core. With GA, Liadry's, Void Staff, Abyssal, Twin Shadows, and WotA also being options (in order of approximate usefulness) Bork is also sometimes built on Top Kennen. Distrotion usually goes on the boots, since you kinda need to Flash into teamfights for your ult Also, ADC Kennen would work so much better if his Q had an AD ratio owo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Also, ADC Kennen would work so much better if his Q had an AD ratio owo Yeah. That would make it more useful. His W has a ratio, which was the reason people used to play him in pros... Passive: Every 5th basic attack deals bonus magic damage equal to 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 / 80% of Kennen's Attack Damage and adds a Mark of the Storm on hit. The passive nerf in patch 3.9 was what ultimately killed AD Kennen in pros, as part of Kennen's strategy was to use the passive to keep the enemy at bay with an array of stuns while he did what AD carries do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yeah, that AD ratio is actually pretty awesome, if he just had one on his poke it would be pretty worthwhile a pick. His kit is nearly perfect for an ADC, Q poke, W is W, E for running fast, and ult for stunning anything that gets too close/locking down opponents in 1v1s/2v2s He's already good at pushing as is, just a little orange %[iDK what would be good numbers] by his Q and he'd be perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd argue Kennen doesn't qualify as an excellent pusher, since you're wasting all your mobility and over half your energy and stuns simply clearing a single wave. It generally tends to leave him really open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well, I didn't say excellent owo And admiteddly I was just going off what I've seen people saying. Still, I can see how he'd be able to push fairly well when needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Loving that Riot is dropping the prices way low on the runes starting Season 5. They are way too expensive for beginning players to get into making decent rune pages and I feel like it's a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 ...Runes are getting cheaper? Woot-woot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Mewdeon ft Dan Punk Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 ...Runes are getting cheaper? Woot-woot Only T1 and 2 lol, they're also cleaning out most of the available T1/2 ones. If you're not a new player, this won't have any impact on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 who thinks rek'sai will keep her 1:1 ap ratio into next patch? Not me, it will probably drop to 0.7 with the run of balance changes that will hit the PBE this week (supposedly).We called it, thank goodness. Rek'Sai Queen's Wrath (Q) bonus AD ratio lowered to .3 from .4 Prey Seeker (Burrowed Q) AP ratio lowered to .7 AP from 1.0 AP These come alongside a bunch of heavy Syndra nerfs which were, imo, very much needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ikaru Posted December 18, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2014 >syndra nerfsbrb S@20 EDIT: that's not TOO terrible. The Q damage evens out eventually (and conveniently when she gets the passive boost anyway) and I'm not sure exactly how the second change works so I'll have to see myself before I comment on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's not awful. Just makes her early game a little less dominant. Her poke was always a bit insane. Made it really hard for melee midlaners like Kat and Fizz. As for the E, I barely see people using the upgraded with that often as normally the balls end up being pushed from the center, or at least that's how I do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 >syndra nerfs brb S@20 EDIT: that's not TOO terrible. The Q damage evens out eventually (and conveniently when she gets the passive boost anyway) and I'm not sure exactly how the second change works so I'll have to see myself before I comment on that The second part of said nerf (to Scatter The Weak) was the big deal. People had been asking for this for a while since there were many cases of stuns being applied even if the sphere wasn't even close to hitting them (several pros have called it a "guaranteed stun") as the hitbox was so huge. as for the Q damage reduction, it's probs significant enough to weaken her very early bullying power so that enemies have time to"get comfortable" before level 4 hits which is when Syndra should become a real valid threat again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ikaru Posted December 20, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 20, 2014 Yeah, I can tell they're notable, but it's nothing unreasonable is what I mean- not like I actively play anymore anyway zzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Loving that Riot is dropping the prices way low on the runes starting Season 5. They are way too expensive for beginning players to get into making decent rune pages and I feel like it's a step in the right direction. confused as to why it took them this long to do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 confused as to why it took them this long to do this IP sink = more RP purchases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 PBE has been updated with refined portrait icons for champs with newer splash arts. Info can be found here: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/15-pbe-update.html#more Just wanted to express my opinion on Kog'maw's and Shyvana's. Left is new, right is old. I absolutely hate what they did with their eyes. They did it with other champs and it looked fine, but theirs just doesn't look right, especially Kog'maw's. His look far too large and Shyvana's just look absolutely ugly. Most of the new portrait icons were just zoom-ins or touching up on blurry areas, but these are just nasty looking. I think Shyvana's background was perfectly fine, but that red paired with those ugly eyes is making me want to vomit. Kog'maw's brighter colors and incredibly swollen eyes that just scream "I'm trying to be kawaii," are just making me cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I would like Kog'Maw's if it wasn't quite so different from the original. Well, except that his right eye (the one on your left) just looks insanely derpy at that angle no matter what you do. And Shyv's... The dark area around them is bleh, but I like the glowing-ness owo Edited January 5, 2015 by KosherKitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Honestly I probably wouldn't even be noticing the difference if I just played a game with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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