Joker Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Daybreak! Hi, it's me again. Bringing another team! Yay, aren't you excited?! ...No? Okay. :C ...Anyway, without further ado, here goes. @ Eviolite Trait: Trace EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Ice Beam - Recover - Magic Coat - Thunder Wave I wanted a creative lead for this team, something different from my usual Stealth Rocks set up. After some thinking, I remembered seeing some people using Magic Coat on Porygon2, thought about it, and it was really just genius. Thus, this little guy was born. Anyway, as mentioned before; Magic Coat serves as a turned based Magic Bounce, reflecting anything back, whether it be Rocks, a Taunt, or a status inflicting move. Recover to gain some health back, Thunder Wave to slow down pesky set up sweepers, and Ice Beam for some form of damage output, and it helps with dragons. @ Lum Berry Trait: Mold Breaker EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - Earthquake - Brick Break To be honest, Haxorus is only here because I had no idea what to use for the final spot, so any help with that would be splendid. Anyway, I believe this set is standard on DD Haxorus so I won't go into much detail. Dragon Dance for boosts, and the rest to pretty much wreck havoc on the opponent. @ Leftovers Trait: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Toxic - Scald - Flamethrower - Slack Off Slowbro is the physical wall of the team, and one of the best in my opinion. Set is fairly standard. Toxic to wear down other pokes, Scald for STAB and a nice chance to burn physical sweepers, Slack Off to regain some life force, and Flamethrower for pokemon like Scizor, Genesect, and Ferrothorn who think they can just switch in on him. @ Flame Orb Trait: Guts EVs: 128 HP / 128 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Payback - Ice Punch Conkeldurr serves as my bulky sweeper, and with this set, he can pretty much touch anything. I considered Lefties over Flame Orb, but decided to go with the extra power that the Guts boost would provide. Drain Punch gives him his precious life force back, while Ice Punch and Payback deal with Gliscors and Jellicents respectively. Bulk Up is subject to change, possibly for Stone Edge so I at least have something to hit Volcarona with. @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Body Slam - Stealth Rock - Fire Punch - Wish The special wall of the team. Jirachi is known for its great use of Serene Grace, and I tried to impliment that onto this set. Body Slam hits ground types, still giving you a chance to paralyze those that would normally avoid Thunder Wave, while Wish provides decent recovery not only for Jirachi but the others too,making it great for support. Fire Punch is mainly for those pesky Bug/Steel types such as Scizor and Genesect. And Stealth Rocks is mainly filler, but it's nice to have the option for them, so I went Rocks over Protect. @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] - Shadow Ball - Overheat Chandelure is my special attacker/sweeper. It's pretty much the standard set for trapping walls like Skarmory and Ferrothorn/Forretress, and set up sweepers such as Dragonite. I was using the lesser known Sub-Calm mind set, but this set proved more useful to the team overall, so I went with it. I included a threats list to help make it easier as to what replaces Haxorus, I was thinking a proper special sweeper since Chandy is mainly for trapping things, but I don't really know, honestly. Anyway, hope you like the team, be sure to rate and leave suggestions. Importable for anyone who may want to use it themselves. A.I. (Porygon2) @ Eviolite Trait: Trace EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Ice Beam - Recover - Magic Coat - Thunder Wave Alduin (Haxorus) (M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Mold Breaker EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - Earthquake - Brick Break SlowPRO (Slowbro) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Toxic - Scald - Flamethrower - Slack Off Alibaba (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Flame Orb Trait: Guts EVs: 128 HP / 128 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Payback - Ice Punch Aladdin (Jirachi) @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Body Slam - Stealth Rock - Fire Punch - Wish Blackfire (Chandelure) (F) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] - Shadow Ball - Overheat Threats:Alakazam-Blaziken-Breloom-Chandelure-Chansey-Cloyster-Conkeldurr-Ditto-Dragonite-Espeon-Ferrothorn-Garchomp-Genesect-Gengar-Gliscor-Gyarados-Haxorus-Heatran-Hydreigon-Jellicent-Jirachi-Jolteon-Latios-Lucario-Machamp-Metagross-Mienshao-Porygon2-Reuniclus-Rotom-W-Salamence-Scizor-Scrafty-Serperior-Skarmory-Slowbro-Tentacruel-Terrakion-Thundurus-Togekiss-Tyranitar-Volcarona-Whimsicott-Zapdos-Celebi-Darmanitan-Heracross-Mandibuzz-Wuagsire-Sableye-Sigilyph-Smeargle-Starmie-Suicune-Toxicroak-Virizion-Hippowdon+Excadrill-Tyranitar+Landorus-Ninetales+Venusaur-Abomasnow+Walrein-Politoed+Kingdra-Politoed+Ludicolo-Politoed+Vaporeon-Chansey+Skarmory-Scizor+Rotom-W-Ferrothorn+Jellicent- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iolite Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It's a pretty well-rounded team. You have your Physical and Special attackers, so it's good. Porygon2 WITH****** Magic Coat doesn't appear as good as it sounds. You don't have any speed EVs, so it may be too slow to even use it. 60 base speed doesn't say much. SO IT'S PRIORITY IGNORE ME ^~^ It can definitely abuse Tri-Attack. Since you want the Bulky Conkel, why not Iron Fist and Lefties? Drain Punch / Ice Punch / Mach Punch / Bulk Up As for Haxorus, Scarf? He's already at 432 attack with an Adamant, and that's enough to wreck. You can run Scarf Jira and still keep the rocks. It makes it fast enough to avoid most taunt users (not sure about Deoxys-S) and set up rocks. It's good for a quick switch in. It sounds really weird, but it works. mk nice team bai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Baby Rupe Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 hallo just some suggestions; Chansey > P2 Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Wish - Stealth Rock - Softboiled - Seismic Toss Your team lacks a dedicated special wall that can stop rain teams, and that pretty much leaves your team open to get battered around by the likes of Kingdra, Ludicolo, Tornadus-T, SubCMRachi and pretty much rain teams in general. Chansey is a nice "no" option against practically every standard rain team out there, and your team is lacking one. P2 doesn't really seem to do much save for bounce stuff back to your opponent, which really depends on the situation, or T-wave something, and your team doesn't really take advantage of a paralyzed pokemon. Now that your team has Stealth Rocks and a better Special Wall, you can change Jirachi's moveset around a little bit. ScarfRachi > SpecDefRachi Jirachi @ Choice Scarf Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - U-turn - Iron Head - Fire Punch - Ice Punch / Trick ScarfRachi is a very underrated threat in OU, and is one of the best leads. Can be used to gain momentum straight off the bat with a U-turn against Politoed or Tyranitar or just completely take out opposing Genesect leads with a Fire Punch. Ice Punch can be used to revenge kill Dragon types that are on a rampage or Trick can be used to stop the Deoxys/Azelf Leads to get hazards. Whichever's preferable. DDNite > Haxorus Dragonite (F) @ Lum Berry Trait: Multiscale EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - Fire Blast - ExtremeSpeed Dragonite is my favorite pokemon in the entire game and he's just so fucking OP. DNite outclasses Haxorus in every single aspect save for a scarf set, which wouldn't be viable considering that if you use my suggestions you'll already have two scarf users. Dragonite is one of the best, most reliable set-up sweepers in the game and haxorus just kinda lacks reliability. Dragonite can 90% of the time always get a DD off because of the berry+ability and in most cases can sweep late game with just one DD under his belt. For a set-up sweeper, DDNite is your man. One last thing: For your Conkeldurr use Lefties > Flame Orb& stone edge / ice punch > payback OR replace him with techniloom(FWG Core) bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Alright, I'll give those a shot. Thanks, Rupe. EDIT: Improved version after some testing. @ Choice Scarf Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - U-turn - Ice Punch - Fire Punch - Iron Head @ Lum Berry Trait: Multiscale EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - ExtremeSpeed - Fire Blast @ Leftovers Trait: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Toxic - Scald - Flamethrower - Slack Off @ Leftovers Trait: Guts EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Payback - Stone Edge @ Eviolite Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Wish - Stealth Rock - Softboiled - Seismic Toss @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] - Shadow Ball - Overheat Aladdin (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - U-turn - Ice Punch - Fire Punch - Iron Head Chunkybum (Dragonite) (M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Multiscale EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - ExtremeSpeed - Fire Blast SlowPRO (Slowbro) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Toxic - Scald - Flamethrower - Slack Off Alibaba (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Guts EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Payback - Stone Edge Scrambled (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Wish - Stealth Rock - Softboiled - Seismic Toss Blackfire (Chandelure) (F) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] - Shadow Ball - Overheat Any more feed back you may have, be sure to let me know. It's always welcome. Thanks for the help so far guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 4 hp evs on conkeldurr (or in speed if you want to outspeed other conkeldurrs) : P. cant find much other flaws but if i do il be sure to update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 how come fire blast if you have an adamant nature? fire punch gets the boost from DD and is a physical attack so wouldn't it be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 how come fire blast if you have an adamant nature? fire punch gets the boost from DD and is a physical attack so wouldn't it be better? Yeah, Rupe made a small boo-boo. Changed it.Though Fire Blast was surprisingly effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Cool team. I suggest Life Orb over lefties on Slowbro as you already have 2 recovery methods (Namely Regenerator and Slack Off) With these in mind, it is good to consider Offensive Slowbro, so Surf > Scald and Psychic > Toxic. Course, if you plan on defensive set I have nothing to say. something/10 Also, if I'm not mistaken, Dragonite is unable to have Multiacale and Extremespeed at once. Edited December 25, 2012 by Summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Great team. only error I can really see with it is that you have nothing to dodge Ground attacks. Landorus/Excadrill could make your life miserable, I recommend a Flying type or something with levitate that isn't Rotom-W because that thing is a douche. >> ..Honchkrow perhaps? Otherwise from that, Oh and Also, if I'm not mistaken, Dragonite is unable to have Multiacale and Extremespeed at once. It can.. Edited December 25, 2012 by Vex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 Cool team. I suggest Life Orb over lefties on Slowbro as you already have 2 recovery methods (Namely Regenerator and Slack Off) With these in mind, it is good to consider Offensive Slowbro, so Surf > Scald and Psychic > Toxic. Course, if you plan on defensive set I have nothing to say. something/10 Also, if I'm not mistaken, Dragonite is unable to have Multiacale and Extremespeed at once. Well, SlowPRO here is really just meant to wall physical sweepers that threaten my other wall, Chansey, as well as come in on physical hits altogether. I need Scald so I can cripple said physical sweepers so they aren't as threatening to my team anymore. I like to be safe with my walls, hence the extra form of recovery in Slack Off, because with my luck, he'll get a nice crit to the face upon a switch in, and we all know how unfortunate those can be. Lastly, Dragonite can have Extremespeed with Multiscale. Great team. only error I can really see with it is that you have nothing to dodge Ground attacks. Landorus/Excadrill could make your life miserable, I recommend a Flying type or something with levitate that isn't Rotom-W because that thing is a douche. >> ..Honchkrow perhaps? Otherwise from that, Oh and It can.. Only thing I have that can dodge a ground attack is Dragonite, Landorus isn't the bulkiest of Pokemon, so if I can get it low and predict his arrival, a nicely timed Extremespeed should take care of him. As for Excadrill, oddly enough, I haven't had much of a problem with him, Conkeldurr usually deals with him well. Though as a safety measure, I was thinking of putting Mach Punch in somewhere. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions! ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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