Omega_Ra1der Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 About my situation. I struggle against decent Lucas and sheik with Luigi. Little Mac for lnk and Luigi. I can do zss if I can lead the bomb and boomerangs correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Link is annoying to Lucas and Ness. None of his projectiles can be absorbed. I would imagine Ness being harder for link to fight. Link likes to set up a wall of projectiles you can't get passed, and Ness's Thunder is made of fuck you because it pulls you toward him. And when he does that, he does air combo bullshit. Also, Shiek gives everyone trouble. That is the sole reason why she is considered the best character in the game. Keep in mind that her kill options are pretty weak and she will spend more time running away than she will be fighting you head on. Especially if you are luigi. Luigi has an absurd amount of priority in his attacks and almost feels like he is using swords. Her best option to fight you is to run away and throw needles at you. Once you figure it out she will have difficulty pressuring you. Also keep in mind that Mario and Luigi's nair is a get out of jail combos free card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Okay, about Little Mac. I really don't like Luigi's chances against Mac. However, your saving grace is that Mac players online are stupid (good luck against Mael, Godot or myself though : P) and you can often play the waiting game, keeping him at bay with fireballs and what have you, until he makes a mistake. Practice shield grabs. The idea is to wait for Mac to come to you and when he gets close he'll probably throw out a dash attack or side B. Shield easily stuffs both of these, and then you can grab him and do Luigi things to him. Don't expect to get an opportunity to get a solid up B "shoryuken" unless the Mac player spams rolling dodges. In fact, I would not use any of Luigi's specials offensively outside of his Fireballs; using the Side B, Up B and Down B is very risky due to their end lag which allows Mac to just eat you alive. Mac's recovery is laughable, and is easily gimped when he needs to recover horizontally. Thus at high percentages look for attacks which will send him flying horizontally rather than vertically. Godot has way more experience with that matchup The Link-Mac matchup is imo laughable, especially after the huge buff to his grab game - when you get enough practice with the matchup. Like with Luigi, shield grab is a viable strategy in Link vs Mac. Except you launch him way more easily than Luigi does, and you can gimp him with bombs and boomerangs and such when he's offstage, or you can be a man and Down-air him or something. Don't get too reliant on projectiles and long range grabs, as Mac can (and will) find a way around him Again, Godot is the best person to ask here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I am starting to think mii brawler is my best option for a secondary but then again no custom tournaments or even tournaments in general doesn't come to ottawa. Gives me one heck of an aerial fighter with the side b and custom up-b. Really, I need to learn some other aerial combos for him. And Roy is good for me, one problem I have is neutral a spam. And I need improve on my d-throw combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 As a Reggie player, I recommend making your Mii as small as possible. Makes them insanely mobile, escpecially when using Shot Put in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Roy can combo his down throw into up tilt, up air, nair, fair, and Up B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Roy can combo his down throw into up tilt, up air, nair, fair, and Up B So he can do Mario stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Meanwhile, I am slowly getting better at link and luigi in their pros. But one question: if a link player has a nario playstyle w/o the grabs. does the projectiles will come more often? Because an aggressive link (I think) would use projectiles to trap an opponent to a point where all he can do is either shield or try to counterattack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Sounds like toon link's play style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzam Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 So just in case it hasn't been put out here yet, here's a great Pac-Man combo video...No seriously these combos are just... Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I am mostly impressed by the green fruit stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I started playing Rosalina. She's fun, but very difficult to use well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I have been playing her occasionally too, she is quite fun. I have had varying levels of success with her though. One character I have been consistently winning with is Sonic. I haven't really lost a single match against anyone ever since I picked him back up. Only match I lost in memory was a for glory match where I suicided both my stocks >< There guy changed his name to "Redo?" And we did. I then rocked his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Aight, so I went ahead and picked myself up a Wii U and Sm4sh. How would y'all suggest I go about improving my smash mechanics? (Still on my Brawl shit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Aight, so I went ahead and picked myself up a Wii U and Sm4sh. How would y'all suggest I go about improving my smash mechanics? (Still on my Brawl shit) This could help you somewhat Neo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 A lot of it is still the same. uptilt attacks and third jumps almost always trump meteor smashes/ down aerials, which wasn't the case in brawl, so being directly above an opponent is a very bad place to be in most situations. oh yes, neutral a attacks/combos have a launching end, so they can't be infinite anymore. I know robin's NA combo has two forms, one is multiple wind slashes that continue on for a bit before launching the opponent (good for catching people as they roll toward you and stuff) and a 3 hit that ends with a fire blast that does more damage than the wind slashes and launches further. Small changes like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 oh yes, neutral a attacks/combos have a launching end, so they can't be infinite anymore. I know robin's NA combo has two forms, one is multiple wind slashes that continue on for a bit before launching the opponent (good for catching people as they roll toward you and stuff) and a 3 hit that ends with a fire blast that does more damage than the wind slashes and launches further. Small changes like that. Falcon has the same sort of deal. 1-2-3 button presses gives you a three hit, high power, high launch move, while 1-2-mash gives you the multi-hitting version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 One-two- three attacks are known as a gentleman. There is also less directional influence in this game. From the top of my head, Little Mac, Falcon, and Robin have a Gentleman. Also, didn't you tell me that you maimed Olimar? Oli is pretty damn different this time around. Edit: ran through the roster and Pits, Greninja, and Duck Hunt God all have a gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 OIimar was my dude last time around. Lately, it's been a lot of Falcon, Yoshi, and Zero Suit tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yoshi is amazing and one of my personal best. Always remember that his double jump animation gives armor to a single attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Another local tournament, EXP 2015, went down recently. Here are the top 16 finishers' mains... (NOTE: Customs were banned.) 1. Zero Suit Samus 2. Luigi 3. Mario / ROB 4. Ganondorf 5. Sheik / Diddy Kong 5. Diddy Kong 7. Villager 7. Sheik 9. Peach 9. Diddy Kong 9. Mario 9. Sonic 13. Little Mac 13. Greninja 13. Ike 13. Donkey Kong Mew2King was at this tournament and finished 5th. V115 won the tourney. Full list of players (corresponding to top list): 1. V115 2. Poke 3. Ally 4. Ray Kalm 5. Mew2King 5. Chrim Foish 7. Smasher 101 7. Astro 9. Hammond is a Fraud 9. PhillyCheeze 9. Blacktwins 9. MeekSpeedy 13. Frupcakes 13. Sain 13. Blitz 13. DKBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 didn't you tell me that you maimed Olimar? did you at least send flowers to his bed in the hospital? Olimar definitely feels better in this game but I don't play him much. As far as Greninja's 'gentleman', the 'mashed' A is just better all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Another local tournament, EXP 2015, went down recently. Here are the top 16 finishers' mains... (NOTE: Customs were banned.) 1. Zero Suit Samus 2. Luigi 3. Mario / ROB 4. Ganondorf 5. Sheik / Diddy Kong 5. Diddy Kong 7. Villager 7. Sheik 9. Peach 9. Diddy Kong 9. Mario 9. Sonic 13. Little Mac 13. Greninja 13. Ike 13. Donkey Kong Mew2King was at this tournament and finished 5th. V115 won the tourney. Full list of players (corresponding to top list): 1. V115 2. Poke 3. Ally 4. Ray Kalm 5. Mew2King 5. Chrim Foish 7. Smasher 101 7. Astro 9. Hammond is a Fraud 9. PhillyCheeze 9. Blacktwins 9. MeekSpeedy 13. Frupcakes 13. Sain 13. Blitz 13. DKBill Is this a tournament that you went to? If so, then I consider you a lucky man. Here in Wisconsin, there are only like 4 local tournaments a year. Plus I wanna meet M2K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzam Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Good to see a Luigi main up near the top of that list. He brings honor to the name of Weegee. :^) "I'm the best!" -Luigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Is this a tournament that you went to? If so, then I consider you a lucky man. Here in Wisconsin, there are only like 4 local tournaments a year. Plus I wanna meet M2K. I did not attend this one like I did GOML back in May, since I'm out on vacation right now. The Ganondorf Skype Group and the EGE stream had me covered, we were all on alert when the Ganon main (Ray Kalm) made Winners' Semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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