Godot Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I read through that list and pout about the the fact that Isaac, Dillon, and Wonder Red aren't playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Another Rosalina nerf confirmed! Choo, Choo? Luma can no longer break Rosalina out of a grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noivy Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 JERGINGA'S THEME IS IN SMASH 4 HELL YEA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pryze Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Another Rosalina nerf confirmed! Choo, Choo? Luma can no longer break Rosalina out of a grab. Today is a good day for Smash players everywhere. All aboard the Rosaluma nerf train! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Rosalina needs a lot of nerfs for sure. Can't be going 60-40 or better against the entire Smash roster with the exception of two other fighters (Sheik and ZSS, who will probably be getting nerfed themselves either this patch or the next). Also, if you haven't already, I recommend checking out this site: http://www.eventhubs.com/ It's got a lot of data and other cool stuff about Smash Bros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I don't agree with their tier list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 I tend to be disappointed by a lot of Nintendo's picks for music and stuff. I want this or a remix version of the Collos theme from Golden Sun. It would fit in well with any FE stage Or even the iconic opening theme for the whole series. Megaman needs the BN2 opening theme Sonic needs Casino Night and Mystic Cave Zones (A Ghost's Pumpkin Soup would be great if they did a Luigi's haunted mansion stage again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 SOME NEW PATCH NOTES ARE APPROUCHING!!! patch 1.0.4 just released today! Though nintendo nor Namco want to give us details. I will make a list of what changed when I get home in a few minutes. Remember that when you download the new patch, your replays will no longer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Starting with the top of the Character selection screen... Mario + Mario is now heavier. - Mario's Up Tilt now does less damage. Dr. Mario - Fair has less knock back. - Dair hits less. Luigi + Luigi's Forward Air, Side Smash, and Jab Combo are all more powerful now! Peach - Peach's aerials stale differently now. - Peach's Foot Stool now launches people upwards causing her to no longer infinite combo people. Bowser - If Bowser Bowsercides, he now dies first. This now means that Bowser players will now only want to Bowsercide to even early game odds or secure an overwhelming Victory. - Bowser's Dropkick of Fuck Ya aka his side smash now does slightly less damage. But still has all of it's launch power... Fuck ya! The Koopa Kids - Down Throw does less damage. Yoshi - Yoshi's Recovery Glitch is now removed.- - Dash attack is easier to punish. - Can't do Down B to edge shenanigans anymore. Wario - Wario's exploit-y Vectory mechanic, aka Wectoring, is now gone. Rosalina and Luma + When Rosalina calls Luma back, it moves much faster than before. - Lumas now take 13 Seconds to respawn. - Luma Shot now has less range. - Nair does less damage now - Her Down Smash and Grabs now have more lag, making her easier to punish. I am adding more as we speak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Continuing on... Mr. Game and Watch - Pikachu's Thunder attack no longer fully fills G&W's Bucket up. Link + Forward Smash hits the opponent more accurately. + Link's Hookshot or grab as more range. - Bomb Canceling or using bombs to cancel landing lag is gone. This goes for Toon Link as well. Zelda + Up Tilt does more damage... thats it? that is all the buffs you are giving her nintendo? w/e... Shiek - Fair deals less damage. - Up Smash, Up Air, and Bouncing Fish all have less knock back now. - Up Air hits the opponent less. Ganondorf + Has less landing Lag on his Nair Zero Suit Samus + Side B and Side Smash hit properly now. + Down Smash is safer on block. + Made Zamus's Up B easier to connect to from Down Throw. = Down Throw has new properties now. = Nair has some new properties now. - Zair has less range now, making it less viable as a poke and recovery. - Paralyzer shot is weaker when not fully charged. It also has less recovery when not fully charged. - Has more landing lag from Air Dodges. - She can no longer Infinite Robin. Palutena + She can act faster after performing her Up Tilt and Down Tilt More to come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Wrapping up the franchises that became a thing in the 80s... Pac-Man + Pac's Fire Hydrant has more durability now. - His Fire Hydrant has more durablity now. Megaman + Leaf Barrier has less ending lag now. - Rush Cancel is out. Marth + Marth's throws are easier to combo out of now. Ike + Nair, Fair, Bair, and Dair all have less ending lag, Making him more of a threat in the air. + Fair has less landing lag, making Ike better for Rushing Down. + Ike's Bair has better everything. + Ike's Jab Combo actually works now. + Ike no longer gives a shit about anyone anymore. Robin + Isn't glitched when Foot Stooled. - Lost Thoron Double Jump Exploit. Kirby + Up air now has an extended hit box, it can now hit behind him. + Has a faster Run speed now. + Every attack involving his Feet hurt more and have larger hitboxes. - Kirbicide suffers from the same bowsercide nerfs. (see above) - Nair and Fair have more landing lag. King Dedede = Down Throw launches people upwards now. - Fair and Gordos have less damage output now. - Gordos are easier to reflect. - Dededecides have the same nerf as Bowser and Kirby. Metaknight + Nair, Forward Throw, Back Throw, and Dimensional Cape are all stronger now. + Bair is better in every way possible. - Fair no longer Spikes. Little Mac + KO Punch has more KO power... you read that right. - His Jab Combo does slightly less damage - His Haymaker Jolt is slower and as less range, weakening his recovery and confusing noobs on how to get past projectile spam. (use the back dash scrubs) I will finish the remaining Patch notes tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 muh man ike gettin all the strong air game now dunk time even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I thought he had great landing recovery after aerials as it was. Time to play him some more and test it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I know I haven't gotten to Shulk yet... But lemme tell you roo. His everything got buffed. Most buffed: Ike Shulk Kirby Metaknight Most Nerfed: Rosalina I would put Shiek and Zero Suit in the list, but they mostly got tweaks rather than nerfs. I am also shocked that DK and Diddy weren't changed in anyway... Diddy is OP and DK could use a buff or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 all my mains are getting buffs this is a good day for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Dacus is out and vectoring may have been replaced by DI... Dunno how to feel about that. DI in brawl was one of the reasons why I stopped liking Brawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Dacus is out and vectoring may have been replaced by DI... Dunno how to feel about that. DI in brawl was one of the reasons why I stopped liking Brawl. Vectoring in this game has made stocks take as long to take down as DI in Brawl has, though. It's to the point where they've had to reduce it to 2 stocks to compensate for the slowdown, although vectoring does at least have more variance than DI does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I have updated my music list once again, here it is. Super Smash Bros. Original Menu Classic: Map Classic: Stage Clear Master Hand Master Core Classic: Final Results (Success) Classic: Final Results (Failure) All-Star Rest Area Smash Tour Target Blast Multi-Man Smash Practice Zone Battlefield Final Destination Final Destination v2 Master Orders Crazy Orders Trophy Gallery Trophy Rush Trophy Shop Returning from Brawl: Menu Boss Battles Theme Subspace Emissary: Boss Battle 1 (Duon/Galleom) Subspace Emissary: Boss Battle 2 (Tabuu) Battlefield Final Destination Cruel Brawl (listed in this game as "Cruel Smash") Practice Zone Home-Run Contest Trophy Gallery Returning from Melee: Menu Menu 2 Battlefield (listed as "Menu [Melee] ver. 2") Final Destination How to Play Trophy Theme Returning from SSB64: Credits (Brawl Arrangement) Credits Super Mario Returning from Brawl: SMB3 Airship Theme SMB3/SMW Castle/Boss Theme SMB Ground Theme (Koji Kondo arr.) SMB Ground Theme v2 SMB Underwater Theme Mario Bros. Mario Tennis/Mario Golf SMW Title/Ending New Super Mario Bros. Ground Theme Luigi's Mansion Returning from Melee: Princess Peach's Castle Rainbow Cruise Super Mario Bros. 3 Athletic (Super Mario World) Dr. Mario Super Mario Bros. / The Lost Levels / Super Mario Bros. 3 Ground Theme / Underground Theme The Lost Levels Medley Super Mario World Boss ThemeSuper Mario 64 / Sunshine Bob-Omb Battlefield Delfino Plaza Ricco Harbor Galaxy / Galaxy 2 Good Egg Galaxy Good Egg Galaxy (Arranged) Sky Station Galaxy Main Theme (Galaxy) Main Theme Galaxy 2) Gusty Garden Galaxy / Credits Comet Observatory Bowser Jr.'s Fort Fated Battle 3D Land / World Ground / Beach Theme (3D Land) Super Bell Hill Great Tower Showdown 2 Champion's Road (remix of Gusty Garden Galaxy) New Super Mario Bros. Athletic / Ground Theme (NSMB 2) Ground Theme (NSMB 2) (Original) Ground Theme (NSMB U) Mario and Luigi: Try, Try Again They're Pretty Tough, Should We Be Careful!? The Grand Finale (Bowser's Inside Story) Mario Kart Returning from Brawl: Mario Circuit Luigi Raceway Waluigi Pinball Double Dash!!: Rainbow RoadWii: Mushroom GorgeSuper Circuit / DS / MK7: Rainbow Road MedleyMK7: Toad CircuitMK8: Mario Kart Stadium Mario Circuit Cloudtop Cruise Rainbow Road Yoshi Returning from Brawl: Obstacle Course (all seasons) DS Wildlands Yoshi's Story Ending Returning from Melee: Yoshi's StoryReturning from SSB64: Yoshi's IslandSuper Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island + IntroYoshi's New Island: Main Theme Bandit Valley Yoshi's Woolly World: Yoshi's Woolly World (Original) Yoshi's Woolly World Donkey Kong Returning from Brawl: 25m Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Opening Jungle Level Jungle Level v2 Bramble Blast (referred to here as "Stickerbrush Symphony") Battle for Storm Hill King K Rool / Ship Deck 2 Returning from Melee: Kongo Jungle (DK Rap)Returning from SSB64: Kongo JungleDonkey Kong Country: Jungle Level (Jazz) Jungle Level (Tribal) Donkey Kong Country Returns / Tropical Freeze: Jungle Level Main Theme (Vocals) Gear Getaway (Original) Gear Getaway Mangrove Cove Mole Patrol Swinger Flinger The Legend of Zelda Returning From Brawl: Great Temple Hyrule Field (Ocarina of Time) Main Theme (The Legend of Zelda) The Legend of Zelda Medley (Title) The Dark World Hidden Mountain / Forest Tal Tal Heights Song of Storms Ocarina of Time Medley Returning from Melee: Temple Great Bay (Legend of Zelda Main Theme) Legend of Zelda: Main Theme / DungeonOcarina of Time: Gerudo Valley (Original) Gerudo Valley Saria's Song / Mid-boss Theme The Wind Waker: The Great Sea / Menu SelectTwilight Princess: Main Theme Midna's Lament Spirit Tracks: Full Steam AheadSkyward Sword: Ballad of the Goddess (Original) Ballad of the Goddess / Ghirahim A Link Between Worlds: Lorule Field Yuga Battle - Hyrule Castle Pokemon Returning from Brawl: Dialga/Palkia Battle at Spear Pillar Team Galactic Battle Red/Blue Main Theme Pokemon Center Returning from Melee: Pokemon Stadium Poke Floats Diamond / Pearl / Platinum: Battle! Champion CynthiaBlack / White series: N's Castle Medley Route 10 Route 23 X / Y: Battle! Wild Pokemon Battle! Trainer Battle! Team Flare Battle! Champion Diantha Victory Road F-Zero Returning from Brawl: Mute City Fire Field White Land Devil's Call in Your Heart Climb Up! And Get The Last Chance! Dream Chaser Planet Colors Shotgun Kiss Brain Cleaner Returning from Melee: Mute City Big Blue F-Zero: Mute City (Original) Mute City Red Canyon Star Fox Returning from Brawl: Credits (Star Fox) Main Theme (Star Fox 64) Corneria Star Wolf Area 6 Area 6 v2 Space Armada Returning from Melee: Corneria Venom / SF64 Main Theme Star Fox 64: Star Wolf / Sector ZAssault: Space Battleground Break Through the Ice Command: Area 6 / Missile Slipstream Kirby Returning from Brawl: O2 Battle Boss Series Medley Revenge of Meta Knight Legendary Air Ride Machine Gourmet Race Butter Building Returning from Melee: Green GreensDream Land: Green Greens v2Adventure / Nightmare in Dream Land / The Amazing Mirror: Butter Building / Kirby's Adventure Medley Forest / Nature Area Super Star: King Dedede's Theme The Great Cave Offensive Air Ride: Celestial ValleyReturn to Dream Land / Triple Deluxe: The Adventure Begins Through the Forest Floral Fields Metroid Returning from Brawl: Vs. Ridley Main Theme / Brinstar (Metroid) Ending (Metroid) Ending (Super Metroid) Sector 1 Norfair Returning from Melee: Brinstar Brinstar Depths Metroid / Zero Mission: Title Escape! Prime series / Prime Hunters: Vs. Meta Ridley Hunters (Multiplayer) Psycho Bits Other M: Burning Lava Fish Nemesis Ridley Lockdown Battle Theme Fire Emblem Returning from Brawl: Attack! With Mila's Divine Protection Shadow Dragon Medley Fire Emblem Theme Preparing to Advance Winning Road - Roy's Hope Returning from Melee: Fire EmblemShadow Dragon / Genealogy of the Holy War / Thracia 776 / The Sacred Stones: Meeting MedleyGaiden: Fight 1Mystery of the Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem MedleyGenealogy of the Holy War / The Binding Blade: Coliseum ThemePath of Radiance / Radiant Dawn: Crimean Army Sortie Against the Black Knight Victory is Near The Devoted Time of Action Eternal Bond / Ike's Theme (unconfirmed, was in Brawl) Awakening: Id~Purpose* Conquest -Ablaze- Duty -Ablaze- Everything from Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn and Awakening are the original songs. Everything else is an arrangement.* - shortened greatly in 3DS version, full track expected on WiiU version. Mother Returning from Brawl: Snowman Mother 3 Love Theme Porky's Theme (Mother 3) Unfounded Revenge / Smashing Song of Praise Returning from Melee: Mother Polyanna (I Believe In You) / Mother 2 Mother: Magicant / Eight Melodies*EarthBound: Smiles and Tears* Onett / Winters * = These were previously arranged for Brawl but were removed from the game. They were remixed for this game. Kid Icarus Returning from Brawl: Underworld Skyworld Title Kid Icarus: Kid Icarus MedleyUprising: Wrath of the Reset Bomb (original) Wrath of the Reset Bomb Dark Pit Dark Pit's Theme Magnus's Theme Destroyed Skyworld Hades's Infernal Theme Boss Fight 1 Space Pirate Ship Thunder Cloud Temple Lightning Chariot Base Animal Crossing Returning from Brawl: 2:00 a.m. Go K.K. Rider! The Roost Title Town Hall / Tom Nook's Store Animal Crossing / Wild World: K.K. Cruisin' Plaza / Title New Leaf: Bubblegum K.K. Tour Kapp'n's Song Outdoors at 7 p.m. (Sunny) / Main Street Tortimer Island Medley WarioWorld Returning from Brawl: WarioWare, inc. WarioWare, inc. Medley Ashley's Song Ashley's Song (JP) WarioLand: Shake It! RuinsGame & Wario: Gamer Xenoblade Xenoblade Chronicles: Gaur Plain Gaur Plain (Night) Xenoblade Medley You Will Know Our Names Mechanical Rhythm Time to Fight! One Who Stands In Our Way Engage The Enemy Pikmin Returning from Brawl: Stage Clear / Title World Map (Pikmin 2) Environmental Noises Pikmin / 2 / 3: Pikmin Main Theme Stage Select Forest of Hope (Pikmin 2) Garden of Hope (Pikmin 3) Nintendo Retro Returning from Brawl: Flat Zone 2 3D Hot Rally Title Tunnel Scene (X) Tetris Type A Tetris Type B Lip's Theme Clu Clu Land Gyromite Ice Climber Shin Onigashima Famicom Medley Returning from Melee: Mach Rider Flat Zone Punch-Out!! Jogging / Countdown Minor Circuit* World Circuit Main Theme (Punch-Out!! - Wii Version) Duck Hunt: Duck Hunt MedleyWrecking Crew: Wrecking Crew Medley Wrecking Crew Retro Medley Balloon Fight: Balloon Trip Balloon Fight Medley The Mysterious Murasame Castle: Mysterious Murasame Castle MedleyNES Remix 2: Main Theme* - This is a new arrangement, unlike the Minor Circuit theme on 3DS which takes the music directly from Punch-Out!! for the Wii. Newer Nintendo Returning from Brawl: Battle Scene / Final Boss (Golden Sun) Excite Truck PictoChat Golden Sun: Overworld Theme (Dark Dawn)Baten Kaitos Origins: The Valedictory ElegyWii Sports: Title Theme Opening Theme Wii Sports Medley Wuhu Island Theme (Wii Sports Resort) Wuhu Island Theme v2 WiiFit: WiiFit Plus Medley Mischievous Mole-way Rhythm Boxing Super Hoop Skateboard Arena Nintendogs: Bath Time Theme Bath Time Theme (Vocal Mix) Pilotwings: Light Plane Light Plane (Vocal Mix) Turbo Jet Brain Age: Brain Age Brain Age 2 Theme Soma Bringer: AttackGlory of Heracles: Glory of HeraclesDillon's Rolling Western: Main ThemeStyle-Savvy Trendsetters: Main Theme Pop Fashion Show The Wonderful 101: Jergingha - Planet Destruction FormAR Games (3DS): Dragon BattleNintendo Land: Main ThemeCaptain Rainbow: Tomorrow's PassionArt Academy: Swan LessonJam With the Band: Performance PAC-MAN and Namco Friends Pac-Man: PAC-MAN PAC-MAN (Club Mix) PAC-MAN's Park / Block Town Bravoman: Bravoman Retro MedleyLibble Rabble: Libble Rabble Retro MedleyMetro-Cross: Metro-Cross Retro MedleyNamco Arcade: 80's Retro Medley 1 80's Retro Medley 2 Yokai Dochuki: Retro MedleySky Kid: Sky Kid Retro Medley Sonic The Hedgehog Returning from Brawl: Angel Island ZoneSonic The Hedgehog: Green Hill ZoneSonic Adventure Series: Open Your Heart Live & Learn Escape From the City Lost World: Windy Hill - Zone 1 Wonder World Other: HIS WORLD (Instrumental) Knight of the Wind Reach for the Stars Right There, Ride On Rooftop Run Seven Rings In Hand Sonic Heroes Mega Man Mega Man: Mega Man Retro Medley Cut Man Stage Mega Man 2: Mega Man 2 Medley Mega Man 2 Retro Medley Air Man Stage Quick Man Stage Mega Man 3: Mega Man 3 Retro Medley Spark Man Stage Shadow Man Stage Mega Man 4: Mega Man 4-6 Retro Medley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Shoot. I was really hoping to see "Don't Speak Her Name!" from FE:A in the Wii U version. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Shoot. I was really hoping to see "Don't Speak Her Name!" from FE:A in the Wii U version. Oh well... Allegedly it was one of the tracks omitted before it shipped. There were rumors that "Don't you put any stock in this destiny hogwash!" and one arrangement from Fire Emblem (Blazing Sword) shared the same fate, but don't hold me to that. We might be able to find some others when people really get cracking into the game's code. EDIT: One alleged lost track from the WiiU so far...that being Bowser Land from Mario Party 2. Since the posted track is identical to the original, I don't know how credible that really is. For fun, here is a list of tracks that were omitted from Brawl. Super Mario RPG - Beware the Forest's Mushrooms (Forest Maze) - Arrangement Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time - Boss Battle - Original Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening - Ballad of the Wind Fish - Arrangement Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragons and the BoL - The Chosen Ones (Final Chapter) - Arrangement Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - Move Out! - Original Star Fox Command - The Loner, Falco Lombardi - Original Mother series - Hippie Battle Theme Medley - Original Mother - Eight Melodies - Arrangement EarthBound - Smiles and Tears - Arrangement EarthBound - Because I Love You - Arrangement Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - Main Theme - Original NES Sports - NES Sports Medley - Original Stunt Race FX - Stunt Race FX Medley - Arrangement Click here for a playlist on YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Why did they cut out those Earthbound songs? Dastards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Why did they cut out those Earthbound songs? Dastards!They sound like something I'd sooner fall asleep to than a track to which I could smash someone's face in on New Pork City. Besides, two of them appeared in Smash Bros. 3DS anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Wait... Brawl had super Mario rpg music? How did they get to the rights to that? Square Enix co-owns them. That is why we never got Geno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Radiant Aeon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) So we can all agree that this is freaking us all out. Yeah. No comment. Edited November 28, 2014 by The Radiant Aeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I heard about that... also, that avy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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