Shing Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fair doing less damage is a buff. Since it does less damage it has more combo potential. Who thought it was a good idea to trade power for combo potentially in this character. Sakurai is a luigi main, explains everything Anyway, i felt the team of ssb4 needs to think what they buff or nerf really. Character like samus needs buff, and character like shiek needs a bit nerf. And they need to give up patch notes. That's something important right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 They do discuss buffs and nerfs. They are just very secretive about what they change, which is annoying. Nintendo is also stubborn. When they buff or nerf a character we only consider how it changes them in 1v1 competitive play. The smash devs also consider things like FFA, teams, and other things like that. And in FFA Samus is more powerful and thrives. She can almost be considered one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 considering you can't grab out of fireballs anymore i'm more inclined to say the recent changes are a nerf, and seeing as you have to be lucky to get the trip on his dtilt, it makes it less of a viable option in matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 That part is a nerf, but they buffed his combo potential and gave him more options. They need to nerf his Nair and kill some of his priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I buzzed a high-level player in a Smash skype group on the Luigi changes, this is what he said: Yeah. That nerf is so goddamn underestimated. I just saw it a few games ago, like I can really react to Luigi's grab trap way better. Perfect shield -> Jab/someshit is way more reliable with every character, and much safer with the 3 frames of lag. Makes the distance between his grab and fireball pretty hugely noticeable.And I don't know why people say Luigi's Fair reduction is a buff, it's actually a nerf. You're getting the same amount of Fairs in every combo anyway. If it was a change like, if it was OP at 6% and got nerfed to 5% then I could see a case made for greater combo potential, but nothing's really changed at all in that sense.Oh and D-tilt change, I don't know why people call that a buff. It took away a reliable setup and made it reliant on chance, esp against low-profile chars like Greninja and Kirby.He's still annoying and overall pretty decent though, if anything else gets hit next it's his down-B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 basically what I had thought, where do you find all these smash skype groups ryan .__. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 basically what I had thought, where do you find all these smash skype groups ryan .__. Smashboards, under the SSB4 character forums. Although discussion primarily revolves around talking about the character, many of them do discuss the game in general, as well as other things not pertaining to the game at all. There are some pros in these skype groups (such as CherubiKnight in Lucina's and Ryo in Ike's) who are super helpful to anyone who wants help improving their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Proof that we don't always tech those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hmm, that explains most of it why the opponent couldn't tech when i hit them that close in the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hmm, that explains most of it why the opponent couldn't tech when i hit them that close in the wall. not like they would've teched anyway kappa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 not like they would've teched anyway kappa Welcome to the for glory everyone lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlaceon Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 So far all I've seen in for glory is Little Mac, Weegee and ZS Samus. All 1v1. Is this normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) So far all I've seen in for glory is Little Mac, Weegee and ZS Samus. All 1v1. Is this normal? yeah, there are some rosas, shieks, links, and reg samus mixed in too, welcome to for glory! honestly nearly everybody in reborn is better then for glory, and that's because we're intelligent. If i see you on the server later do you want to play some matches on 3DS? Edited August 9, 2015 by blasterman4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 You'll find more Mario soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlaceon Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 yeah, there are some rosas, shieks, links, and reg samus mixed in too, welcome to for glory! honestly nearly everybody in reborn is better then for glory, and that's because we're intelligent. If i see you on the server later do you want to play some matches on 3DS? Great... I did it because I'm better at 1v1 than FFA. And I have the wii U version >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzam Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Had to link this hype as hell set Zero just had: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 probably the closest anyone is going to get to beating zero sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Had to link this hype as hell set Zero just had: Jesus chirst, that was so close. Esam was really good at this set. Sad in GF through, but this one holy shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 That video of who counters luigi? all the other characters that are top tier because they seem to counter everyone else below them too. And none of them are characters I play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Who up for some smash? I can do wii u and 3ds version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Can anyone put up some links of the best Little Mac in the world as of late? I'd like to see how that person plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 ct vex as far I know. And I'm waiting for boss to come back to cause havoc with his luigi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The guy with the title "best little mac" is SOL, a guy named monkey is pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 ct vex as far I know. And I'm waiting for boss to come back to cause havoc with his luigi. This guy is better than Vex, I'd wager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ahem, picked kd3 and starting to adapt to his luigi like styled game. Any tips other to spam the Gordos or help with netrual game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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