Ya Gorl Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, ShadeStrider said: Z rings Enable Z moves. Mega Rings enable Mega Evolution. I think you confused them. No, in SuMo the Z-Ring was used to mega-evolve Pokemon as well as using Z-Moves, although you did need a Keystone with the Z-Ring for mega-evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (Takes a deep breath) The z ring and mega ring are separate items that for Reborn Marc changed the script to combine the two into a single item. Depending on the script, they could be given separate or together simply by changing the item requirement to activate them. I don't know how it looks nor Jan's plan what to do when giving it out. Most likely it'll just be the Mega Z-ring instead of separate. Edit: Did not realize Z ring could mega evolve in the canon games. Still haven't beaten Gen7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Looks at beta chan* still at 20%. Even tho the green # are 4. Hmmm interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lunar Star said: Looks at beta chan* still at 20%. Even tho the green # are 4. Hmmm interesting 4/20 = 1/5 = 20% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alex said: 4/20 = 1/5 = 20% Seem logical yes. Didnt notice there where 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberle Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 The Z ring could always Mega evolve, something about that the stone used to make the Z ring does the same thing as a Key stone You just didn't get any Mega stones until the Battle Tree Except the one given to you by Dexio or Sina I believe I personally don't really mind not having the Mega Z ring In the main games you got both fairly early since Mega Evolutions and Z moves were the star mechanic of their respective games For fan games, especially Reborn and Rejuv, them being late game items make more sense as they are meant to be the ultimate techniques. But it's up to the devs to decide when we get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata733 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Personally, I don't think it matters when we get the mega or the z ring sure it an amazing item but is that why you play reborn and rejuvenation for so long. Isn't because of the plot and characters that you play the game, yes the mega ring would make the game more exciting but maybe getting it last minute wouldn't be the worst thing. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campanella Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Pata733 said: Personally, I don't think it matters when we get the mega or the z ring sure it an amazing item but is that why you play reborn and rejuvenation for so long. Isn't because of the plot and characters that you play the game, yes the mega ring would make the game more exciting but maybe getting it last minute wouldn't be the worst thing. Just my opinion It's a matter of timing. The Mega Ring has already appeared in the story, there are obtainable Mega Stones in-game, and (if I remember right) there's a bag compartment for Z-Crystals; we all know that unless Jan changes his mind suddenly out of left field, we're almost definitely getting them eventually. But you have to time it right. If you introduce them too early, they can be OP (especially Megas, Z-Moves are arguably better balanced), but if you introduce them too late into the game, the player barely gets a chance to use them or need them. And the story seems to be getting closer and closer to its climax; time to properly introduce them is running out, and soon it'll be too late for them to be useful, and then in that case what's the point anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerulean Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Campanella said: It's a matter of timing. The Mega Ring has already appeared in the story, there are obtainable Mega Stones in-game, and (if I remember right) there's a bag compartment for Z-Crystals; we all know that unless Jan changes his mind suddenly out of left field, we're almost definitely getting them eventually. But you have to time it right. If you introduce them too early, they can be OP (especially Megas, Z-Moves are arguably better balanced), but if you introduce them too late into the game, the player barely gets a chance to use them or need them. And the story seems to be getting closer and closer to its climax; time to properly introduce them is running out, and soon it'll be too late for them to be useful, and then in that case what's the point anymore. Ah, Okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayaman Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I think the best time to introduce mega evolution would be in the middle of a games's progression but the catch would be that you only get a few megastones of the most weak mega evolutions at first. Like mega Camerupt, Audino etc. After all if you get the ring at the late game pokemon like those become useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmseismitoad Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sayaman said: I think the best time to introduce mega evolution would be in the middle of a games's progression but the catch would be that you only get a few megastones of the most weak mega evolutions at first. Like mega Camerupt, Audino etc. After all if you get the ring at the late game pokemon like those become useless. completely agree with you but since we already have mega stone for heracross, i don't think we can get mega ring before fighting saki as it will make us too OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Mega heracross against saki may be too powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen5Lover Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) :T Edited November 28, 2018 by Gen5Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted November 28, 2018 Veterans Share Posted November 28, 2018 Right, this mega ring tangent's gone on for quite some time now so I feel it should move out of the dev thread. Feel free to make a topic about it and discuss it there though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerulean Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Lunar Star said: Mega heracross against saki may be too powerful Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, Cerulean Azure Brawler said: Definitely I mean. Fire types would still easily trash her. Unless a field effect that reduces fire damage. Like anjie frozen dimension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Lunar Star said: I mean. Fire types would still easily trash her. Unless a field effect that reduces fire damage. Like anjie frozen dimension Are you implying they wouldn't make a field to reduce super effective damage on a defensive typing? Steel is overall pretty slow so it's probably going to have something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Commander said: Are you implying they wouldn't make a field to reduce super effective damage on a defensive typing? Steel is overall pretty slow so it's probably going to have something like that. Not implying anything. Im sure they will do something like that. I was just ssying. I hope the game keeps being challenging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoraBell Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 You’re probably gonna want some sunny day fire type. I doubt it’ll reduce super effective damage but I do have a feeling it’ll increase their defense. Steel types typically have middling special defense so that’ll probably be the exploit. I wouldn’t go into it with a ground type but a fire type and bulky water would do just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Well. Surprisingly my vaporeon is going pretty strong so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava4429 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 One thing I was wondering, do we know what type Adam uses ? (I guess it should be rock or ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoraBell Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Gigalyth is a pure rock type so I’d assume. Rock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Star Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Hmmm... could be rock. Tho it wouldnt be the frist time. Where a gym leader had a mon of another type (or is it?) Edited November 29, 2018 by Lunar Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle3927 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Lunar Star said: Hmmm... could be rock. Tho it wouldnt be the frist time. Where a gym leader had a mon of another type (or is it?) in reborn, Noel's ace Clefable is a fairy type, even he being a normal type gym leader, so maybe. But the possibility is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampellow Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Based on the rock puns other characters make around Adam, it’s probably safe to say he is the rock leader. in fact, they probably mention it at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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