NickCrash Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 NIGHT 3 - OVER IT'S DAY 4 This little piggy went to the bar. He found out nothing, because all mafia members had already killed someone. This little piggy went to hide behind a mafia. Unfortunately, that costed its life. This little piggy went to the bathroom. He found a mafioso hiding there, holding a minigun. He now has more holes than a block of emendal. Andracass died. She was Squeaky Kleen Hider Bean died. He was Chadwick McVibes Psychologist PLAYER LIST 01. Paul25 02. Alistair --> Cataline - Vanilla Town [D2] 03. Corso --> L'Belle - Vanilla Town [N1] 04. Purplecicada 05. Walpurgis 06. Psychic Sheep - Psychologist [N3] 07. Mazino Divergent 08. Andracass - Hider [N3] 09. Candy --> Sailboat - Vanilla Town [D3] 10. Alaris - Vigilante [N2] 11. Bok Choi - Mafia Goon [N2] 12. Mr. Knightly - Vanilla Town [N1] 13. Zero Passion You have successfully entered a LyLo stage. Town has to lynch a mafia member, or they lose. The necessary number of posts has increased to 4. Fewer than that means a modkill. You have 48 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted June 21, 2018 Veterans Share Posted June 21, 2018 I'm as free as a birb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Guys I became A detective cause nick pitied me and I used my ability on ancdracass and I found out she is mafia Kill her now pls E[ALIMINATE] ANDRACASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Oh, I love the implications of Cass being the hider. I can't write a lengthy post right now so think about it until I come back with what I think is going on. Hint 1: Andracass defended my innocence yesterday (chances are she hid in my cell at some point and survived, THAT'S WHY she was so sure I was town). Hint 2: Being successfully put in the focus of suspicion I wasn't going to be killed using the factional kill, since it's more likely for me to get lynched than any other townie, so, why did she left the safety of my cell? More news at 9, stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 She wanted to either be able to confirm Dive as town if he was town or to help us figure he was mafia in case he was mafia. She knew I was innocent and seeing how Dive was trying to make both her and I, both townies, look like scum and after the argument they had yesterday I'm 99% sure Dive was her target. Cass is smart, I don't see her abandoning such a safe position (hiding with the townie less likely to be killed by mafia) unless she was trying to get creative and use her role to gain information to help the town and I don't see her making such a reckless move as choosing a random person, it had to be someone whose identity would be obvious in case she got it wrong (or right...) and died. She basically sacrificed herself on behalf of the town to prove that Dive isn't innocent #CassForMVP So [Eliminate] Dive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Walpurgis said: She wanted to either be able to confirm Dive as town if he was town or to help us figure he was mafia in case he was mafia. She knew I was innocent and seeing how Dive was trying to make both her and I, both townies, look like scum and after the argument they had yesterday I'm 99% sure Dive was her target. Cass is smart, I don't see her abandoning such a safe position (hiding with the townie less likely to be killed by mafia) unless she was trying to get creative and use her role to gain information to help the town and I don't see her making such a reckless move as choosing a random person, it had to be someone whose identity would be obvious in case she got it wrong (or right...) and died. She basically sacrificed herself on behalf of the town to prove that Dive isn't innocent #CassForMVP So [Eliminate] Dive What do you mean by make you and Andracass look like scum? I never did that. You were one of my primary suspects before the flip, but I was convinced that Andracass was town while I was interacting with her. My huge gripes with her was that she was tunneling me for reasons such as not suspecting her and apparently trying to appeal to people (which are both bogus), but even if I tried to explain it, she never tried to engage nor see reason. The assumption that Cass would try to abandon a safe position and be creative and reckless in making use of her role is wrong. It's largely based on the flavor text. Flavor texts reveal information such as who got killed by what on a case-to-case, host-by-host basis and it's decidedly not the same in all bases that such information is revealed. I don't think she banked on that. And for two good reasons for bolded portion: (1) I don't think she's self-sacrificial. If she were, why did she not hide behind me to prove her point on the other night? and (2) I'm town, so she couldn't have possibly hid behind me. Besides, under what basis am I scum other than an assumption made by a visit? I feel such action is simply arbitrary and it's going to make us lose. I assume scum is two out of Purplecicada, Zero Passion, and Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 "This little piggy went to hide behind a mafia." Yeah you are right there's nothing that points towards Cass dying because she tried to hide with a narc- oh, a post from nick, I wonder what does it say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Yeah, the inactivity. I think it's relatively normal in Paul and Zero, but not so much in Nicki. I wonder why isn't she saying anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods cicada Posted June 22, 2018 Global Mods Share Posted June 22, 2018 Unfortunately, I've been busy irl so I haven't really had time to speak. For what it's worth, I'm a vanilla townie. Although that's not much considering there's not many of us left. How many mafia should be remaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Two mafia remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods cicada Posted June 22, 2018 Global Mods Share Posted June 22, 2018 It could very well be one of either Zero and Paul and Kiyo... whoever Cass visited last night was definitely Mafia. I have doubts that the mafia is both Paul and Zero, because otherwise only one person would have died as they both appear to be inactive. If Cass definitely visited you previously then she'd be able to verify that you are town, Lía. It appears she did that previously, so I think I can trust you. I'll wait a little bit before I put my vote in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Was going to point out what cass said about walpurgis but that's already taken into consideration. Still going to have to go through the thread but my biggest concern with voting dive is considering bok pushing against dive. I think it would have to be explained at that point why they attempted to do that given the pace of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I know I'm town so POE out of the 3 other players (not including walp) that does cause concern toward dive. I will be able to post my readthrough after I'm done working today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Wow, I can't believe no one else has posted since I did 7 hrs ago. Must poke harder. :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I also thought sailboat self voted himself Regardless, they needed to get lynched there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Vote: Paul The biggest things that have pinged for me are: - Paul's response to me when I said "i saw the future; you're scum". They respond: Quote Unfortunately, your prediction is wrong. That's all I can say. This sounds like they are a power role as if he should not be lynched at all. All the power roles are dead so this is moot. This seems like a self preservation technique to seem like they are important to keep around (ie a power role for town). - Saying they are a justified confirmed townie from the psych scan. This was not during night 1 however so this also seems like giving themselves a pass from getting lynched here. I'm not sure if I could give this a "good chance they are town bc scanned" scenario because of how the psychologist works, so I don't want to read too much into the mechanics in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Vote: Paul I think the thing I need to really be convinced about is how Dive is scum is what I mentioned previously, along with seeing if cass left any hints about who they were going to visit. I did not see any of that as I re-read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Actually, perhaps cass' conversation w/ Dive last phase could mean that they could have visited dive? @Walpurgis I'm curious on your take on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPassion Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I'm don't know how much of the role stuff I want to get into here. purple's voting last phase did not seem productive if there was no scum vibe that they felt in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Quote I have doubts that the mafia is both Paul and Zero, because otherwise only one person would have died as they both appear to be inactive What do you mean by this? Are you suggesting that if they were both mafia, they would have missed the factional kill? Quote Still going to have to go through the thread but my biggest concern with voting dive is considering bok pushing against dive. I think it would have to be explained at that point why they attempted to do that given the pace of this game. I believe Bok voted me as a form of retaliation. He didn't have any good answer to my suspicion on him, so he pushed me, so that he could "justify" his suspicion on Cataline and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Quote The biggest things that have pinged for me are: - Paul's response to me when I said "i saw the future; you're scum". They respond: Quote Unfortunately, your prediction is wrong. That's all I can say. This sounds like they are a power role as if he should not be lynched at all. All the power roles are dead so this is moot. This seems like a self preservation technique to seem like they are important to keep around (ie a power role for town). - Saying they are a justified confirmed townie from the psych scan. This was not during night 1 however so this also seems like giving themselves a pass from getting lynched here. I'm not sure if I could give this a "good chance they are town bc scanned" scenario because of how the psychologist works, so I don't want to read too much into the mechanics in this situation. With regards to his other posts, what do you think of them? I feel like Paul wouldn't have done such a strategy to seem like they're important to keep around. I haven't really seen anyone pull off such an action, not did he have any incentive to do so because he wasn't at risk of being lynched. On the other hand, treating themselves as a justified confirmed townie is sending me mixed signals. On one hand, it seems to be a way of lessening the lynch pool, but at the same time, I don't think it's really fit of him to be clear simply for that because there are two opportunities for him to have performed the mafia kill, thus, avoiding the psychologist' visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Quote Actually, perhaps cass' conversation w/ Dive last phase could mean that they could have visited dive? I don't think judging with the argument that Cass visited me because of our interaction makes me the visit instantly. I don't think she would visit me because of her visit on Lia which happened on either N1 or N2. I don't think she had done that because she was suspicious of her as she had not shown any indications of such. Going by this, I think she would have visited someone she thought was less suspicious, but made the wrong choice of visiting a mafia. However, as I've said before, all of these is pure assumption and I think we shouldn't base our votes on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Blackworth Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 With Lia being cleared with Andracass' post last day saying Lia's town and me being town, we're left with Nicki, Zero Passion, and Paul. I think at this point it's important to look at how they're associated with each other for us to be able to better evaluate Nicki/Zero Passion: They have hardly interacted with each other except for Nicki's vote on Zero Passion the previous day and Zero Passion mentioning Nicki's vote on him. This could be distancing between mafia partners or this could be simply two towns who aren't active enough to interact. Could go either way. Nicki/Paul: There's no interaction between them either. It could still be distancing; however, upon rereading, Paul's vote on Cataline could be one of those types wherein he follows a mafia partner's reasoning in getting a mislynch. The only other thing related to them is Nicki pressuring him and Zero Passion for being inactive, but voting Zero Passion instead. Paul/Zero Passion: And once again, there's minimal interaction which isn't surprising at this point. They didn't have any interaction on D2 while on D3, they both voted for Sailboat. Paul's vote didn't have much reason to it, but Zero's had a reason that stretched to the previous day. I think Paul could have voted for Sailboat as a means of going by a townie's reasoning; however, conversely, Zero could have made up reasons to mislynch Sailboat. Today, Zero votes for Paul. Going by this, I think they're not aligned with each other which means at least one of them is reasonably a townie. With regards to what I feel about them individually, it's difficult to put a grip on all of them because of their inactivity which doesn't help us tell much of them. Paul's not too active, but he's given a level of contribution; he could be genuine, however, he could also have tried to make some of those posts as a means of making it seem like he's contributed something. Zero Passion's had little activity, but they seem to have tried to give their thoughts with regards to specific behavior and posts of certain individuals. Nicki's the same, but she has been cryptic and has had little incentive to contribute which is hard to judge because while it is suspicious independently, there's also the fact that it is uncharacteristic of her to do so if she were mafia. At the same time, I don't really know what to make of her saying that she's busy irl, but appears to be active elsewhere. With this assessment, I think I'm the most confident with voting for Nicki. [Vote] Purplecicada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 @Paul25 @purplecicada You still have to talk more today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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